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Old 01/03/2018, 12:08 PM   #1
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Unhappy Xenia/Mushrooms

Hey all!

I'm a little confused about some corals in my tank. It's been running for 5 months and other than the normal growing pains of a new tank, it's been doing great. But lately, my xenia and 1 type of mushroom (I have 2 kinds) have been super unhappy. They've both been shriveled and just angry looking for about 3-4 weeks (with variable amounts of unhappines throughout that time). I've tried moving them to less light and doing water changes but they don't seem to react. Any ideas? Everything else (fish, inverts, a bunch of LPS, GSP, rock anemone) is flourishing. Very confused as to why my two supposedly easiest corals are so mad!

The tank is 24 gallons with a Current Orbit LED light. Fish are 2 ocellaris clowns and a bicolor blenny.

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Old 01/03/2018, 12:27 PM   #2
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I would try feeding them amino acids and see if the perk back up. I had this happen and the aa helped


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Old 01/03/2018, 12:32 PM   #3
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Listing all your known water parameters would help us make an informed guess, we are shooting in the dark without more information.


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Old 01/03/2018, 04:52 PM   #4
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Mushrooms and Xenia are the easiest to keep, can you post your water parameters, and what type of mushroom you have an issue with....when you say some corals....does at mean some are doing good.....or all corals doing bad....


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Old 01/05/2018, 09:19 AM   #5
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I don't have test kits for much, but here's what I do have!

pH: 8.0
Nitrates: 0-5ppm
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrites: 0ppm
Salinity: 1.025


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Old 01/05/2018, 09:21 AM   #6
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Mushrooms and Xenia are the easiest to keep, can you post your water parameters, and what type of mushroom you have an issue with....when you say some corals....does at mean some are doing good.....or all corals doing bad....
The only corals doing poorly are some orange mushrooms and the Xenia (and actually a few zoas). Everything else (acans, torch, rock anemone, GSP, green mushrooms) is growing and doing great.


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Old 01/06/2018, 11:16 AM   #7
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Are you making your own water? there could be containments getting through your water column.


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Old 01/06/2018, 11:50 AM   #8
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Possibly chemical competition (aka allelopathic toxicity)? Certain soft corals are quite toxic, and are known to influence nearby corals/ certain species. If not using activated carbon, might be worth a shot...


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Old 01/06/2018, 12:13 PM   #9
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Check your alkalinity. S/b around 8.3.


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Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low.

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Old 01/10/2018, 02:25 PM   #10
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I've had a 500 litre soft coral tank for over 4 years now. I've never been able to keep xenia, [it just slowly shrivels and dies] and my mushrooms hardly multiply at all. Similarly with zooanthids. However, my gorgonian colonies grow very well indeed, as does my two kinds of green star polyps, and the various capnella-type corals.

This might be down to soft coral chemical warfare, but I run activated carbon 24/7.

It might be something to do with flow; my gorgonians and gsp love high flow, but the mushrooms don't. Finding a balance isn't easy.

It might be something to do with too little food in the water column; the "dirtier" the tank, the more that xenia and mushrooms love it. On the other hand, feeding the tank more to try this idea out is fraught with dangers!

Other local aquarists that I know [here along the south coast of the UK] report similar experiences; some find no problem in propagating mushrooms and xenia, but others can't keep them at all.

My conclusion is that mushrooms and xenia are only "easy" corals if you have a certain kind of tank. What that kind of tank is, I hesitate to say.


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