Flame Hawkfish or Longnose Hawkfish?

Packersfan21 · 06/26/2008, 10:40 PM

I'm trying to decide on which hawkfish to put in my 90 gallon reef. I have a cleaner shrimp and a mix of different snails and inverts. I know that there is a threat w/ the shrimp but which one would be safer? I also plan on adding a blood shrimp in the future.

Dooly · 06/26/2008, 10:43 PM

longnose may be a bit safer, but flame looks so much nicer

rduong89 · 06/26/2008, 11:30 PM

i have a pair of longnose hawk in my 90 and i love them.

BangkokMatt · 06/27/2008, 12:13 AM

Flame all the way!

snorvich · 06/27/2008, 06:49 AM

Yes, I agree about the flame. But NEITHER are safer.

BangkokMatt · 06/27/2008, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by snorvich
Yes, I agree about the flame. But NEITHER are safer.

Very true. I added my reply without the 'safe' aspect being considered. Give me a flame hawk over shrimp anyday

klasiksb · 06/27/2008, 07:34 AM

You may have better results putting the blood shrimp in first. My flame hawk ignored all the shrimp that were in the tank before it, but thought it was feeding time when I tried to add more. I guess you could also try adding the shrimp at night if possible.

Packersfan21 · 06/27/2008, 08:13 AM

If i do get a hawkfish i will add the blood shrimp first. I had one before but he mysteriously dissapeared.

Packersfan21 · 06/27/2008, 09:08 PM

What's the "probablity" of the flame hawk eating my shrimp?

uhuru · 06/28/2008, 11:15 AM

I had a small longnose hawk with a large blood shrimp in a 20g and never had a problem, your experience may differ though as it's always a risk

yeldarbj · 06/28/2008, 04:12 PM

How about hawks picking on scarlet hermits and snails?

Packersfan21 · 06/28/2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by yeldarbj
How about hawks picking on scarlet hermits and snails?

Yea that's why I was thinking before hand that the longnose was safer, but i just wanted to see what everyone else had to say.

Octopus8 · 06/29/2008, 07:25 AM

I unfortunately added a Flame Hawkfish to my 150g reef years ago. He proceeded to kill four Green Chromis, one Canary Blenny, one watchman Goby and two Firefish over four days before I was able to remove him. He wasn't in the aquarium for five minutes before the first Firefish was dead. Most expensive fish I've ever owned!!! I replaced him with a longnose and all was well for several years before I broke down the setup.

Chibils · 06/29/2008, 09:42 AM

I'm not a hawkfish person, but I find the longnose much more aesthetically pleasing.

REEF-n-Chicago · 06/29/2008, 10:12 AM

Agreed with Chibils..
Always been to afraid the hawks would eat my shrimp

Packersfan21 · 06/29/2008, 10:31 AM

Thanks guys. if I decide to get a hawkfish, then I think I know which one I would get now.

twon8 · 06/29/2008, 10:47 AM

ive had a longnose in with shrimp for several years now, never any interest shown in them by it.

Packersfan21 · 06/29/2008, 10:58 AM

Thanks for all the replies. Defintely looks like I would choose a longnose now. The cleaner shrimmp draws a lot of attention to the tank so I wouldn't want to see him eaten.

Chibils · 06/29/2008, 11:08 AM

My cleaner is one of my favorite things in the tank! I recently got him a mate (a third of his size!) and they cavort around the tank together doing the little "shrimp dance!"

Packersfan21 · 06/29/2008, 11:12 AM

LoL. Everytime I put my hand in the tank to move something or clean the glass he jumps on my hand, and I always freak out because he catches me by suprise.

Dooly · 06/29/2008, 03:53 PM

i don't know, my shrimp are pretty annoying, and unfortuneately, all 3 of them are still alive, my flame hawk hasn't touched a single one of my chromis, 2 cleaners, 1 blood, and 20+ clean up crew.. he just waits for me to feed him

Packersfan21 · 06/29/2008, 06:53 PM

It would probably be better to sell the shrimp if you don't like them then to hope that a fish will eat them.

forddna · 06/29/2008, 09:38 PM

I don't have personal experience with either, but after seeing both for the first time in person, I prefer the longnose. Before, I would have preferred the Flame.

To me, the Longnose just contrasts most other fish so well, but in a really good way.

dcmander · 06/30/2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Octopus8
I unfortunately added a Flame Hawkfish to my 150g reef years ago. He proceeded to kill four Green Chromis, one Canary Blenny, one watchman Goby and two Firefish over four days before I was able to remove him. He wasn't in the aquarium for five minutes before the first Firefish was dead. Most expensive fish I've ever owned!!! I replaced him with a longnose and all was well for several years before I broke down the setup.

how do you think a flame hawk did all that?

SteveJakubiec · 06/30/2008, 10:37 AM

I absolutely love my Flame Hawk, he's so cute when he scuttles around the rock tops searching for prey.

Flame Hawk FTW, can't get a comical experience out of a longnose.

+I love the googly eyes.

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06/26/2008, 10:40 PM	#1
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	Flame Hawkfish or Longnose Hawkfish? I'm trying to decide on which hawkfish to put in my 90 gallon reef. I have a cleaner shrimp and a mix of different snails and inverts. I know that there is a threat w/ the shrimp but which one would be safer? I also plan on adding a blood shrimp in the future.

06/27/2008, 12:13 AM	#4
BangkokMatt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Krung Thep Posts: 3,100	Flame all the way! __________________ I've spent a lot of money on booze, women and fish. The rest I just squandered. Current Tank Info: 150g sps Reef (now FOWLR after a devastating crash due to chiller) , 2x400w MH (Icecap ballast, Lumenmax 2, Reeflux 12k SE), Deltec AP701, Grotech Tec III, Chiller, 2 x Tunze 6101, 1 x 6205 (+ m/c), bla bla

06/27/2008, 06:49 AM	#5
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Yes, I agree about the flame. But NEITHER are safer. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

06/27/2008, 07:34 AM	#7
klasiksb Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,281	You may have better results putting the blood shrimp in first. My flame hawk ignored all the shrimp that were in the tank before it, but thought it was feeding time when I tried to add more. I guess you could also try adding the shrimp at night if possible. __________________ Just a girl looking to build a little piece of heaven on earth, without killing it!

06/26/2008, 10:43 PM	#2
Dooly Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,108	longnose may be a bit safer, but flame looks so much nicer

06/26/2008, 11:30 PM	#3
rduong89 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 552	i have a pair of longnose hawk in my 90 and i love them.

06/27/2008, 08:13 AM	#8
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	If i do get a hawkfish i will add the blood shrimp first. I had one before but he mysteriously dissapeared. __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

06/27/2008, 09:08 PM	#9
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	What's the "probablity" of the flame hawk eating my shrimp? __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

06/28/2008, 11:15 AM	#10
uhuru Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus Posts: 2,949	I had a small longnose hawk with a large blood shrimp in a 20g and never had a problem, your experience may differ though as it's always a risk __________________ August 2011 TOTM

06/28/2008, 04:12 PM	#11
yeldarbj Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,295	How about hawks picking on scarlet hermits and snails?

06/29/2008, 07:25 AM	#13
Octopus8 Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 271	I unfortunately added a Flame Hawkfish to my 150g reef years ago. He proceeded to kill four Green Chromis, one Canary Blenny, one watchman Goby and two Firefish over four days before I was able to remove him. He wasn't in the aquarium for five minutes before the first Firefish was dead. Most expensive fish I've ever owned!!! I replaced him with a longnose and all was well for several years before I broke down the setup.

06/29/2008, 09:42 AM	#14
Chibils halide loyalist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sugar Hill, GA Posts: 2,213	I'm not a hawkfish person, but I find the longnose much more aesthetically pleasing. __________________ always learning Current Tank Info: 75G new world cichlid, 25G reef in planning

06/29/2008, 10:12 AM	#15
REEF-n-Chicago Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA (san pedro) Posts: 1,456	Agreed with Chibils.. Always been to afraid the hawks would eat my shrimp __________________ Jordan My tank gets DRUNK every morning Current Tank Info: 150 Gallon w/ 100 gallon sump; 240 gallon

06/29/2008, 10:31 AM	#16
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	Thanks guys. if I decide to get a hawkfish, then I think I know which one I would get now. __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

06/29/2008, 10:47 AM	#17
twon8 Formally registered membe Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: slightly sw of richmond, va Posts: 5,920	ive had a longnose in with shrimp for several years now, never any interest shown in them by it. __________________ Anthony Richmond Reef Club "and as things fell apart, nobody paid much attention." Not building a wall but making a brick Current Tank Info: 300g DD display, 60g frag tank

06/29/2008, 10:58 AM	#18
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	Thanks for all the replies. Defintely looks like I would choose a longnose now. The cleaner shrimmp draws a lot of attention to the tank so I wouldn't want to see him eaten. __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

06/29/2008, 11:08 AM	#19
Chibils halide loyalist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sugar Hill, GA Posts: 2,213	My cleaner is one of my favorite things in the tank! I recently got him a mate (a third of his size!) and they cavort around the tank together doing the little "shrimp dance!" __________________ always learning Current Tank Info: 75G new world cichlid, 25G reef in planning

06/29/2008, 11:12 AM	#20
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	LoL. Everytime I put my hand in the tank to move something or clean the glass he jumps on my hand, and I always freak out because he catches me by suprise. __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

06/29/2008, 03:53 PM	#21
Dooly Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,108	i don't know, my shrimp are pretty annoying, and unfortuneately, all 3 of them are still alive, my flame hawk hasn't touched a single one of my chromis, 2 cleaners, 1 blood, and 20+ clean up crew.. he just waits for me to feed him

06/29/2008, 06:53 PM	#22
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	It would probably be better to sell the shrimp if you don't like them then to hope that a fish will eat them. __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

06/29/2008, 09:38 PM	#23
forddna Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Crossville, TN (Tampa native) Posts: 5,143	I don't have personal experience with either, but after seeing both for the first time in person, I prefer the longnose. Before, I would have preferred the Flame. To me, the Longnose just contrasts most other fish so well, but in a really good way. __________________ ~Amanda~ Returning to the hobby after a 5+ year hiatus Current Tank Info: 93g Cube - Build in Progress

06/30/2008, 10:37 AM	#25
SteveJakubiec Moved On Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 07508, New Jersey Posts: 843	I absolutely love my Flame Hawk, he's so cute when he scuttles around the rock tops searching for prey. Flame Hawk FTW, can't get a comical experience out of a longnose. +I love the googly eyes.