Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > More Forums > Reef Club Forums > NorthEast Region-Reef Club Forums > Upstate Reef Society
Blogs FAQ Calendar

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 08/09/2009, 05:15 AM   #1
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC Member
 
Gary Majchrzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 41,560
look at the lighting here (Solatubes)

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1563053




__________________
over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems
*see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB* GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF

Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors
Gary Majchrzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 05:46 AM   #2
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC Member
 
Gary Majchrzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 41,560
very interesting post

Quote:
Originally posted by Rod the Reefer
Here are some pics of the skylight/Sola tube install on the old tank;








And here’s a pic of inside (Just sun light) ;



I have no Par readings, but I purchased a Lux meter to check just how much light I was getting. (Readings at 12 noon 10.9.06)

Under the 150 Mh – 150000 Lux (150mm from lamp)
Under the skylight – 190000 Lux (150mm from tube)
Outside in full sunshine – 160000 Lux

Observations :

Incredible natural dawn. (Mandarin and shrimp love it!)
Very natural fluctuations in light as clouds go overhead.
Amazing moon light.


__________________
over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems
*see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB* GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF

Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors
Gary Majchrzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 05:56 AM   #3
GMaquarium
Registered Member
 
GMaquarium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: rochester ny
Posts: 1,670
I think solartubes are the way to go. Its hard to beat the natural sunlight.


__________________
Think globally, shop locally!!
GMaquarium is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 06:00 AM   #4
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC Member
 
Gary Majchrzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 41,560

is this halo typical of a Solatube's lighting pattern?


__________________
over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems
*see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB* GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF

Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors
Gary Majchrzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 06:41 AM   #5
diverdick
Registered Member.
 
diverdick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Canandaigua, NY
Posts: 1,183
Blog Entries: 1
I cant believe the color in that tank is representative of natural sunlight - let alone delivered by tubes. There must be supplemented light for sure.


diverdick is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 06:49 AM   #6
faze07hd
Registered Member
 
faze07hd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Utica, Ny
Posts: 914
I seen solatubes in person at a guys house in palm beach. They are great and he does supplement actinic lighting with them. But down there is way better for them compared to good ole NY weather. If its cloudy outside, it will be dark in your tank... Think of how many dark days will be in your tank... hmmmmm


__________________
Harry

Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef tank
faze07hd is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 08:55 AM   #7
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC Member
 
Gary Majchrzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 41,560
Quote:
Originally posted by diverdick
I cant believe the color in that tank is representative of natural sunlight - let alone delivered by tubes. There must be supplemented light for sure.
I posted two pix from the thread in my link. One pic is with sunlight (alone) and the other is with sunlight PLUS the fellas artificial lighting.
I've worked a par meter. Even on a cloudy day in Rochester sunlight is brighter than artificial aquarium lighting. I don't know how efficient Solatubes are at getting that lighting down to it's target though.


__________________
over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems
*see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB* GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF

Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors
Gary Majchrzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 12:55 PM   #8
mr86mister
Saltaholic
 
mr86mister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Liverpool, NY
Posts: 1,935
I agree with Harry that would be tough. We don't have nearly as many sunny days in this area as Florida would. The sun also isn't as strong as it would be in Sub-Tropical Zones. That guy probably would not even need the 250w. Just some supplemental with natural light. Thats a great idea though. I think I should move into my aunts house in Miami...lol.


__________________
-Mike-

Current Tank Info: I like turtles.....
mr86mister is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 01:07 PM   #9
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC Member
 
Gary Majchrzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 41,560
Solatubes are the purpose of this thread

growing corals with sunlight at this latitude is a moot point.
Tropicorium (in Detroit) and Calfo's greenhouse (Pittsburgh) have been growing corals in greenhouses for years. It CAN be done.


__________________
over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems
*see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB* GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF

Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors
Gary Majchrzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 05:01 PM   #10
SkiFletch
Registered Member
 
SkiFletch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: N Buffalo, NY
Posts: 3,665
Quote:
Originally posted by mr86mister
I agree with Harry that would be tough. We don't have nearly as many sunny days in this area as Florida would. The sun also isn't as strong as it would be in Sub-Tropical Zones. That guy probably would not even need the 250w. Just some supplemental with natural light. Thats a great idea though. I think I should move into my aunts house in Miami...lol.
Well, I don't know if they still do it (cause I don't watch the news anymore), but I remember chanel 4 news here in buffalo used to have what they called the "Sun Bowl" in their weather report. It was a "competition" of sorts recording the number of sunny days here in Buffalo vs Orlando Florida. I clearly remember it always being really close, within a handful of days. The trouble isn't so much the number of sunny days, it's when they are. Up here, we have fewer sunny days in the winter and Orlando really kicks our butts at first, but then through the summer and fall we catch up. More of a seasonal problem.

Further if you ask me, depending on where you live in the WNY area you might have more troubles. At the airport here in Buffalo, there's significanly more sunshine in the winter than there is in say Hamburg, OP, or East Aurora in the snow belt where lake effect creates a LOT more clouds (and snow) than up here in the northtowns of Amherst, Tonawanda, etc.

Gary, does Tropicorium use something like this, or do they also use a greenhouse like Calfo. I've no doubt you could grow coral in a greenhouse up here as the amount of light is a LOT even in the winter, but I dunno about these tubes. Too bad they didn't ahve a par meter


__________________
You will miss 100% of the shots you dont take.
Dare to dream
Mike, aka Fletch

Current Tank Info: 65 gallon reef
SkiFletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 05:47 PM   #11
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC Member
 
Gary Majchrzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 41,560
Trop is a greenhouse.
FWIW we had a skylight over the aquarium at our old house.
I miss it.


__________________
over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems
*see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB* GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF

Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors
Gary Majchrzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 06:22 PM   #12
TimmyNY
Registered Member
 
TimmyNY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Castile NY
Posts: 250
I have seen these installed with a dome over it at the roof. te halo effect is normal if you dont have a diffuser (sp?) the difuser focuses the light much like on a led

Tim


__________________
Worry does't make tomorrow better. It only ruins today.

I always thought that watching paint dry was boring until I started watching coraline grow

Current Tank Info: 55 DT 30 gal sump ASM G1x mag5 return 4x54 T5s 2 Koralia2s
TimmyNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 06:46 PM   #13
mr86mister
Saltaholic
 
mr86mister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Liverpool, NY
Posts: 1,935
You prove a good point SkiFletch. Where I live the winters are terrible. Lake Effect whoops our butt and as many know off of Erie it can snow for days upon days if the winds are right. So, I guess that really should also be taken into account. Say, the Tughill Plateau may only be 40 minutes north of Syracuse but it also can get 15-20 more feet of snow a season.

Gary- If it's in the back of your mind tot to try this, I would go for it. I would love to watch the process.


__________________
-Mike-

Current Tank Info: I like turtles.....
mr86mister is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 07:09 PM   #14
block head
Registered Member
 
block head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: spencerport ny
Posts: 2,619
going to visit dr mac's in october,he's got a greenhouse set up as well in Md. think it's a state/fed certified coral propagation facility. the solar tubes on the the aussy tank don't even have the dome hood's that allow much more light to be collected. a bunch of the DIY shows have installed these units. doesn't seem that hard ,if u have a few tools and home improvement skills.


block head is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/09/2009, 10:23 PM   #15
Bluephish13
Registered Member
 
Bluephish13's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: lancaster ny
Posts: 554
If i owned my own home i would be on that project right now! looks like it would not be that hard. you would still need more lighting but the dawn, dusk, and moon viewing you get would be well worth it . Im sure the dumb tubes prob cost a fortune due to some space age reflective material, but if they are cheap than i bet the whole project would be pretty cheap to do on a weekend. Im sure on the summer days they provide enough light to give your halides a rest.


Bluephish13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/10/2009, 12:06 AM   #16
mr86mister
Saltaholic
 
mr86mister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Liverpool, NY
Posts: 1,935
I bet they help with heat as well.


__________________
-Mike-

Current Tank Info: I like turtles.....
mr86mister is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/10/2009, 01:53 PM   #17
scaz
Registered Member
 
scaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 902
Yea I think that I would rather have a big sky light above my tank with a bunch of LEDs to suplement it.


__________________
"there is always a bigger fish"
scaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/10/2009, 08:38 PM   #18
gregod
Registered Member
 
gregod's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Posts: 566
bluephish, I think they start around $80-$100 for the kit. I've been thinking of giving it a try but I think I would like 2 days in a row without rain before I cut more holes into my house. Plus I probably should finish one or two of the other hundreds of projects that I have started.


gregod is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/10/2009, 09:17 PM   #19
Bluephish13
Registered Member
 
Bluephish13's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: lancaster ny
Posts: 554
thanks greg

I don't think my property owner would be happy if i cut holes in the apt roof. I already strapped a HD dish up there.


Bluephish13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2009, 02:14 AM   #20
mr86mister
Saltaholic
 
mr86mister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Liverpool, NY
Posts: 1,935
haha.Now lets not make anything a liability here. Holes only go in the roof's that you own...lol.


__________________
-Mike-

Current Tank Info: I like turtles.....
mr86mister is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2009, 05:52 AM   #21
scaz
Registered Member
 
scaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 902
lol. I have a sky light in my garage that my wife wants to turn into a car port. I would love to inslate it and turn it into big fish tank room, but you know what they say. Happy wife happy life.


__________________
"there is always a bigger fish"
scaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/13/2009, 08:46 PM   #22
aww_419
Registered Member
 
aww_419's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Posts: 975
ugh!! of course a cheap project,and i still cant do it. LOL i own my home but the tank is in the basement. Guess i could always cuts holes through 3 layers.


aww_419 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.