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Old 03/27/2007, 10:15 AM   #1
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help with this ID of this coral

I'm curious what this coral is and finally have the time to post some pics of this coral. It was a hitch hiker on a gorgonian I got a few months ago.



Initially I was told it was a sun coral, but I question that because from what I've been told and read, they usually are not out or open up when the lights are on and this thing just doesn't seem to care. Plus, I have not found any pics of a sun coral that has a base like this one does.




The base seems to wrap around the branch of the gorgonian and the coral moves. Initially it would just spin around on the branch and face diffferent directions. But it also had moved up and down the branch and to other branches.


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Old 03/27/2007, 10:16 AM   #2
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This is an example of it spun around; if you not from the previuos pictures it was pointing the opposite direction and I couldn't get any clear pics of the front of the coral.







I had moved the gorgonian because it didn't look happy and a short time later this coral dissappeared and I figured it ended up dying because I had moved the gorgonian, but I wasn't sure, I just didn't know what had happened it it.

Then several days later it showed up again on a different gorgonian on the other side of the tank, in the front of the tank in direct light.




In researching this I learned there is a coral called a Dendrophyllia that is similar to a sun coral. I've looked at pics of these as well, but can't tell if what I have is one of them or not.

If anyone has any ideas I would definitely be interested in what I have in my tank.

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Old 03/27/2007, 10:20 AM   #3
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Looks like a dendro. Considering it's on a gorgonian, would make sense. Two fer One! Score.


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Old 03/27/2007, 10:20 AM   #4
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yep...it looks like a dendro.


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Old 03/27/2007, 10:29 AM   #5
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Considering it's on a gorgonian, would make sense. Two fer One! Score.
Why is this? Why is the gorgonian important??


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Old 03/27/2007, 10:30 AM   #6
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Will this multiply? How does one take care of one(or more) of these?


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Old 03/27/2007, 10:31 AM   #7
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Anyone know much about gorgonians? I have a question about the one this came on.


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Old 03/27/2007, 10:35 AM   #8
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Why is this? Why is the gorgonian important??
Because both can be ahermatypic (no zooxanthellae, deeper water / non-reef building). I'm assuming, that since the dendro is on the gorgonian, that the gorg is ahermatypic as well.

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Old 03/27/2007, 10:41 AM   #9
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Need more info!!! Feed them what? The gorgonian it came on I was told was a "blueberry" gorgonian. It was really cool. In the first couple of pics you can see it was a reddish brown, with these cool blue polyps that would come out. Now this gorgonian is almost completely blue and the reddish brown has dissappeared. I was thinking it was dying, but it appears to be growing; the tips seem longer and are very thin and it just seems bigger. I don't know what made it change.

Like I said previously, the unidentified coral moved to another gorgonian on the other side of the tank that is in the light and has obiviuos tissue on it and its polyps open for feeding.


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http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ides/index.php

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...002/toonen.htm


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Is that dendro moving? You need to feed it meaty foods, it's not photosynthetic. It will grow baby polyps from the side.


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Old 03/27/2007, 11:24 AM   #12
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Should I target feed it mysis shrimp? Will it pick up cyclopeze out of the water column?


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Old 03/27/2007, 11:26 AM   #13
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Target feedings are the best as you will see it take in the food rather than trying to catch particles that float by. I target feed mine as well.


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Old 03/27/2007, 11:32 AM   #14
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looks like a wrapper gorg anemone to me. They hitch on gorgonians and mimic their polyps. Usually they are on simmilar colored anemones though. Nemanthus annamensis (sp?)

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Old 03/27/2007, 11:44 AM   #15
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I agree

In this picture it looks very much like the base of the item I have.



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Copied from your other thread.
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Hormathiidae Nemanthus annamensis
Something along those lines. It is a gorgonian wrapping anemone. Not sun coral or dedro.
from what i read i think they are a pest for gorgonians, as they use them to get food and don't benefit the gorgonian host at all. But in the home aquaria i don't think it will do much harm. It's a pretty little guy ntl and if you can get him to possibly move off the gorgonian i think it is probably an easy anemone to keep as long as it's fed with small foods often.


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looks like a wrapper gorg anemone to me. They hitch on gorgonians and mimic their polyps. Usually they are on simmilar colored anemones though. Nemanthus annamensis (sp?)
nice one! bad for the gorg? did it kill that tissue, or can it only adhere to dead tissue?


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Almost surely killed the tissue...That's what anems do.


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I'm not sure about how strong of a sting they have. Even if they do sting the gorg, I'd keep him. Unique little anemone. Maybe ask someone like fenner or borneman.

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How do I get a hold of them??


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try wetwebmedia, fenner's website.

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If anyone is interested in this puppy, send me a PM and let me know!!!


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