The 40 Breeder Project(Not Manhattan)

BlakDuc · 08/28/2007, 09:41 PM

So, I have been working on my new tank for a little while now. Here is a rough sketch of what my first ideas were to do.

My plans have changed a little bit, but ony with the plumbing and some dimensions. Here is the start of the stand.

BlakDuc · 08/28/2007, 09:42 PM

As you can see, the stand is built with 2x4s and being skinned with maple plywood.
Here it is a little further into the build.

Here I finally have 3 of the 5 doors on it. I also started the framework for the canopy out of 1x4. Notice that I got the trim installed along the bottom of the stand.

I got the main tank yesterday from the Petco $1 per gallon sale. The canopy fit like a glove.

BlakDuc · 08/28/2007, 09:43 PM

Today I decided that I needed to get the sump before the prices went back to normal. They didn't have a 30 Breeder in stock, so I went for another 40 Breeder.

The top of the stand is going to have a 6" shelf around it that is topped with ceramic tile.
I am planning on running 2x250 MH with 2x39w T5 for Actinic. It should be a fun journey. I am just working as I go. Trying to make sure I don't spend too much at a time. The wife still has to pay the bills and all.

If you have any suggestions, let me know. When I get the time, I will update how the plumbing will be.

Thanks for looking, Joe.

trigger05 · 08/28/2007, 10:36 PM

Looking good so far! I like custom built progress threads
i will keep an eye on this thread as it develops =)

BlakDuc · 08/29/2007, 06:52 AM

Thanks for looking! I wish I had the money to throw down and get it done. It probably wouldn't get done with as much quality and thought that way though.

E30 E T A · 08/29/2007, 07:12 AM

Nice wood work! This should be a good'n!

BlakDuc · 08/29/2007, 09:20 AM

I hope so. Some of my joints are questionable, but I will just cover them with some trim.

BlakDuc · 08/31/2007, 08:09 PM

There is nothing more fun than watching Silicone dry. I will have it mounted tomorrow.

LNell · 08/31/2007, 08:18 PM

I've never seen someone use those triangular pieces to support the bottom like that. Good idea.

BlakDuc · 08/31/2007, 10:59 PM

I was worried about how I had them cut the glass. All of the weight of the water is going to be coming down on that bottom piece. I wanted to do something to help support it. I had the extra glass because I got an extra bottom piece cut in case I cracked 1 drilling it. It came to mind after, but I am glad I did it. Tomorrow night, I am planning on cutting the weir, and getting the "box" mounted to the tank. I might get some PVC and start on some of the plumbing. I cant do most of it because I don't have the pumps. But I can at least do something.

Stay Tuned.

BlakDuc · 09/02/2007, 10:31 AM

I got everything cut and siliconed. I had a small snafu while going across the bottom of the weir. I tried to go too fast and took a small knick out of it. It will be ok though, I am going to have a piece of black acrylic covering the whole back so it will not be visable. Here are the pics.

BlakDuc · 09/02/2007, 10:32 AM

Here is is with the trim back on. I think it is going to work out awesome.

mwoneal · 09/03/2007, 02:14 PM

Nice work, I love the 40 breeder

BlakDuc · 09/03/2007, 04:23 PM

I love the dimensions too. I had never seen one until I went to a local guys house when I was starting my current tank. He turned me onto it. I can't wait until it is done. In about another month and a half, it should be up and running. I got some PVC parts to work on the manifold for the closed loop. I will work on that tonight and post some more pics. I do not want any powerheads in the tank. I think I should be successful by running 1500gph through the 6 outlets of the closed loop.

normanfine · 09/03/2007, 07:28 PM

I really like the pictures and schematics

BlakDuc · 09/03/2007, 07:31 PM

Here is some pics of the manifold system. It is just cut, not glued yet. I think it should be plenty of circulation for the tank. will also have a return from the sump.

That is probably the most work I will get done this week. Maybe a few little minor things, but I am once again, broke. This hobby makes sure of that though, right?

Bri Guy · 09/03/2007, 10:49 PM

Im liking this setup alot!! Is it going to be set up in a peninsula style in the house?

Ill like it even more

FUA · 09/04/2007, 04:53 AM

nice start, I'll tag along. I like your closed loop set up.

BlakDuc · 09/04/2007, 07:30 AM

Yes, peninsula style it is. I just wish I could get it done. $$$ seems to always have a way of screwing stuff. Some complain that they have too much of it and that it is a burden. Maybe they should get into reef keeping.

BlakDuc · 09/06/2007, 04:20 PM

I have put the tank on a little bit of a hold. A guy in the locak reef club wants me to build a canopy for him. That is what I have been doing all day. It will help fund this project though.

E30 E T A · 09/06/2007, 04:58 PM

Sweet manifold! Hope to see a update soon with the extra cash!

EWC88 · 09/06/2007, 07:38 PM

Coming along great!...I'll be tagging along to see how your progress grows, Post more pics whenever you can!

pardalis · 09/07/2007, 12:02 AM

tagging alon, looking good so far!

BlakDuc · 09/08/2007, 03:29 PM

I haven't done anything else. This weekend I am planning on wrapping up the canopy for the other guy. So hopefully I can collect on that early in the week. I need to get some bulkheads and union fittings to do some more on the plumbing. On the 15th, I am gonna get another sheet of plywood so I can finish that portion of the build. I am also going to get most of the stuff for the shelf and maybe get that started. I am trying to figure out how I am going to plumb the return. I already have a lot going on back there. I might just go right over the middle of the overflow and into the tank with a 45*. We shall see. A lot of it has to wait until I get my pumps.
Thanks for tagging along guys. I can't wait to get it up and running! Good stuff takes time though.

fewskillz · 09/08/2007, 05:10 PM

This should look great when finished. Your manifold system looks good. I love 40 breeders and I love peninsula tanks, so this one should be really cool.

08/28/2007, 09:41 PM	#1
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	The 40 Breeder Project(Not Manhattan) So, I have been working on my new tank for a little while now. Here is a rough sketch of what my first ideas were to do. My plans have changed a little bit, but ony with the plumbing and some dimensions. Here is the start of the stand. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

08/28/2007, 09:42 PM	#2
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	As you can see, the stand is built with 2x4s and being skinned with maple plywood. Here it is a little further into the build. Here I finally have 3 of the 5 doors on it. I also started the framework for the canopy out of 1x4. Notice that I got the trim installed along the bottom of the stand. I got the main tank yesterday from the Petco $1 per gallon sale. The canopy fit like a glove. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

08/28/2007, 09:43 PM	#3
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	Today I decided that I needed to get the sump before the prices went back to normal. They didn't have a 30 Breeder in stock, so I went for another 40 Breeder. The top of the stand is going to have a 6" shelf around it that is topped with ceramic tile. I am planning on running 2x250 MH with 2x39w T5 for Actinic. It should be a fun journey. I am just working as I go. Trying to make sure I don't spend too much at a time. The wife still has to pay the bills and all. If you have any suggestions, let me know. When I get the time, I will update how the plumbing will be. Thanks for looking, Joe. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

08/29/2007, 06:52 AM	#5
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	Thanks for looking! I wish I had the money to throw down and get it done. It probably wouldn't get done with as much quality and thought that way though. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

08/29/2007, 09:20 AM	#7
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	I hope so. Some of my joints are questionable, but I will just cover them with some trim. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

08/28/2007, 10:36 PM	#4
trigger05 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 390	Looking good so far! I like custom built progress threads i will keep an eye on this thread as it develops =)

08/29/2007, 07:12 AM	#6
E30 E T A Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norther VA Posts: 278	Nice wood work! This should be a good'n!

08/31/2007, 08:09 PM	#8
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	There is nothing more fun than watching Silicone dry. I will have it mounted tomorrow. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

08/31/2007, 08:18 PM	#9
LNell Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: GA Posts: 211	I've never seen someone use those triangular pieces to support the bottom like that. Good idea.

08/31/2007, 10:59 PM	#10
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	I was worried about how I had them cut the glass. All of the weight of the water is going to be coming down on that bottom piece. I wanted to do something to help support it. I had the extra glass because I got an extra bottom piece cut in case I cracked 1 drilling it. It came to mind after, but I am glad I did it. Tomorrow night, I am planning on cutting the weir, and getting the "box" mounted to the tank. I might get some PVC and start on some of the plumbing. I cant do most of it because I don't have the pumps. But I can at least do something. Stay Tuned. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

09/02/2007, 10:31 AM	#11
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	I got everything cut and siliconed. I had a small snafu while going across the bottom of the weir. I tried to go too fast and took a small knick out of it. It will be ok though, I am going to have a piece of black acrylic covering the whole back so it will not be visable. Here are the pics. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

09/02/2007, 10:32 AM	#12
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	Here is is with the trim back on. I think it is going to work out awesome. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

09/03/2007, 02:14 PM	#13
mwoneal Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 92	Nice work, I love the 40 breeder __________________ Mark Current Tank Info: 10G reef w/ 5.5G sump, 96W Coralife Aqualight, softies & LPS

09/03/2007, 04:23 PM	#14
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	I love the dimensions too. I had never seen one until I went to a local guys house when I was starting my current tank. He turned me onto it. I can't wait until it is done. In about another month and a half, it should be up and running. I got some PVC parts to work on the manifold for the closed loop. I will work on that tonight and post some more pics. I do not want any powerheads in the tank. I think I should be successful by running 1500gph through the 6 outlets of the closed loop. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

09/03/2007, 07:28 PM	#15
normanfine Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 113	I really like the pictures and schematics

09/03/2007, 07:31 PM	#16
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	Here is some pics of the manifold system. It is just cut, not glued yet. I think it should be plenty of circulation for the tank. will also have a return from the sump. That is probably the most work I will get done this week. Maybe a few little minor things, but I am once again, broke. This hobby makes sure of that though, right? __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

09/03/2007, 10:49 PM	#17
Bri Guy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin Posts: 2,995	Im liking this setup alot!! Is it going to be set up in a peninsula style in the house? Ill like it even more __________________ For my birthday i got a humidifier and a de-humidifier... I put them in the same room and let them fight it out. (Steven Wright) Current Tank Info: 40BR w/ 250w 14K Phoenix + 192w PC, 10g fuge w/ 55w PC, 10g sump, Eheim 1250 return w/ SCWD, ASM Mini G skimmer, Gravity fed ATO, Kalk doser, 1/10 HP chiller, 1 Vortec + 3MJs, all on an AC Jr. - Born on date 8-06 Pics in gallery! + 55g FOWLR w/ macro

09/04/2007, 04:53 AM	#18
FUA Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 863	nice start, I'll tag along. I like your closed loop set up.

09/04/2007, 07:30 AM	#19
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	Yes, peninsula style it is. I just wish I could get it done. $$$ seems to always have a way of screwing stuff. Some complain that they have too much of it and that it is a burden. Maybe they should get into reef keeping. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

09/06/2007, 04:20 PM	#20
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	I have put the tank on a little bit of a hold. A guy in the locak reef club wants me to build a canopy for him. That is what I have been doing all day. It will help fund this project though. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

09/06/2007, 04:58 PM	#21
E30 E T A Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norther VA Posts: 278	Sweet manifold! Hope to see a update soon with the extra cash!

09/06/2007, 07:38 PM	#22
EWC88 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,114	Coming along great!...I'll be tagging along to see how your progress grows, Post more pics whenever you can!

09/07/2007, 12:02 AM	#23
pardalis Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pacing the cage Posts: 123	tagging alon, looking good so far! __________________ Custom Deep Sea 56g "neo nano", "attached" 18g rimless tube anemone / mantis tank, Custom modern stand, AI SOL blue x 2, Apex controller, 2 x Vortech mp10es, Trigger Systems ruby 36s, Eheim 1262 and 1260 pumps, SWC 160 Cone skimmer w/ modded impellar and XL cup, 3 x Drews dosing pumps, phosban reactor, bio pellet reactor..... Various tarantulas, 3 pairs of panther chameleons, 2 pair of veiled chameleons, 1 pair of carpet chameleons..... -Greg Power-

09/08/2007, 03:29 PM	#24
BlakDuc Fragger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Waldorf, MD Posts: 4,518	I haven't done anything else. This weekend I am planning on wrapping up the canopy for the other guy. So hopefully I can collect on that early in the week. I need to get some bulkheads and union fittings to do some more on the plumbing. On the 15th, I am gonna get another sheet of plywood so I can finish that portion of the build. I am also going to get most of the stuff for the shelf and maybe get that started. I am trying to figure out how I am going to plumb the return. I already have a lot going on back there. I might just go right over the middle of the overflow and into the tank with a 45*. We shall see. A lot of it has to wait until I get my pumps. Thanks for tagging along guys. I can't wait to get it up and running! Good stuff takes time though. __________________ Joe Cude Current Tank Info: IM Fusion 40

09/08/2007, 05:10 PM	#25
fewskillz Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 197	This should look great when finished. Your manifold system looks good. I love 40 breeders and I love peninsula tanks, so this one should be really cool. __________________ Is there a reef-addict support group? Hello, my name is Chris, and I have a reefing problem. Current Tank Info: 180 mixed reef, 10 BB Nano Reef, 15 PFW