latazyo's new 40BR tank build thread

latazyo · 09/06/2007, 06:43 PM

this is the new 40BR I bought....this thread will be just as detailed as my old one

my old tank build thread can be seen BY CLICKING HERE

I am gonna just swap the tanks on the stand that the old tank is on

anyways....

Tank : 40BR All-glass aquarium w/ glass overflow and hole drilled for 1.25" drain
Lighting : 1x175w MH, pfo parallel reflector, 15KK iwasaki bulb, Ice Cap ballast....2x39w T5 actinic supplementation (to be added at a later date)
Sump & other equipment : as described in my previous build
Return pump : Mag 9.5

not quite sure about livestock yet, but I figured out that the 40BR actually has a bigger footprint than a 55, so that's pretty cool...should open up some fish options

PICS
here is the overflow I made being siliconed in...note that I have NEVER been accused of doing a clean siliconing job

this is a DIY bulkhead that IM using on this tank....why? because that is the size holesaw I had access to and witha DIY PVC bulkhead I can run 1.25" drain instead of just 1"

here is the canopy being painted...flat black and white as always

here are the doors installed and painted...unfortunately the huge reflector for the MH doesnt leave much space despite the doors

I got some pretty sweet fans for the hood...Ive got two of them

and here is the gutter guard Im using to keep snails and fish in the tank and not in the overflow...it was $1.26 at Home Depot and Im painting it black

Schplitter · 09/06/2007, 07:21 PM

dude,

remember I told you that you can use 1.5"

or did we use the wrong bit?

BK

Schplitter · 09/06/2007, 07:23 PM

Where did you get those fans?

latazyo · 09/06/2007, 07:28 PM

we must have used the wrong bit, I went to lowes and bought 1.5" and come outside and checked it in my car and it didnt fit

only the 1.25" fitting works

the fans are from newegg.com its where I get all of my computer ****

I got dual 120mm fans 78CFM, they seem pretty hardcore, but I bet they'll be loud as hell

$23 shipped for the fans

Jarob · 09/06/2007, 08:04 PM

I am using the same gutter guard to cover my overflow

Chelsey · 09/06/2007, 08:06 PM

It'll be interesting to see what you choose to do with your 40 breeder

I should post pics of mine sometime, but I want to wait until things grow out a bit.

As a side note, I recommend newegg for anything and everything...they're great, it's too bad they don't sell reef stuff

latazyo · 09/06/2007, 08:17 PM

yeah, its going to have very little live rock in it

probably two islands

not sure about fish yet

the 20L that is plumbed into it will have softies and a damsel and some other stuff that is not reef friendly

I also started a .9 gallon cube..its so small, I filled it up and carried it around
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1201240

latazyo · 09/08/2007, 10:47 AM

did the leak testing yesterday and it was a huge success

here is the overflow box, it did not leak....but with 10 pounds of silicone on the joints I guess I dont see how it could have

and here is the DIY bulkhead - NOT LEAKING!
when I installed the 1.25" "bulkhead" it was pretty loose, so I reamed the hole out a little with the dremel and it now fits 1.5"

so 1.5" drain in a 2" hole....not bad at all

I may or may not post finished canopy pics tonight

thanks for looking

DrBDC · 09/08/2007, 10:53 AM

If you could ever get that 4" hole saw for the fans! If you read this, he's running to St. Claire then he'll be over.

latazyo · 09/08/2007, 10:55 AM

Im giving it a 1% chance he remembers the saw

haha

latazyo · 09/08/2007, 10:01 PM

well my holesaw guy finally came through so I got the canopy fans installed and wired

here is the view from inside...I mounted them crooked so that the screws for the fan and the screws from the outside cover would not hit each other

and outside

latazyo · 09/08/2007, 10:03 PM

nice double post....me

Schplitter · 09/09/2007, 07:29 AM

What's the verdict? Loud? Quiet?

DrBDC · 09/09/2007, 08:32 AM

I hope those are quiet. You actually ordered different ones than I was talking about with you. Those are 78cfm @ 34 dB. The others were 76cfm@21 db.

DrBDC · 09/09/2007, 08:36 AM

We all know where to borrow a compound miter now!

DrBDC · 09/09/2007, 08:37 AM

Where did you buy the fan covers?

latazyo · 09/09/2007, 08:47 AM

SUPER QUIET

these fans are awesome

latazyo · 09/09/2007, 09:05 AM

Roy, I didnt notice that you went on a 34 post posting spree while I was replying to Schplitter

- yeah that saw is so awesome, they're less than 100 bucks (if you get an off brand like mine) and it is so handy for everything....I use a jigsaw for cutting plywood because I hate circular saws

I need a panel saw (haha)

anyways, yeah I got the 78cfm fans...they're quieter than the 2" fan on my t5 fixture...and that is both of them

the fan covers I got at Gateway Electronics for $1 each

they had some foam in them but it had disintegrated (think he keeps stock on hand very long?) but that is good because I didnt want it at all....so as a result they're sticky w/ glue, but I put them in the sink w/ dish soap for about 30 seconds and they were perfectly clean

DrBDC · 09/09/2007, 09:10 AM

latazyo · 09/14/2007, 09:27 PM

since Im graduating in exactly 2 years and I dont plan on bringing any aquarium stuff with me when I move I am going to be doing a lot of experimenting and cost cutting with this set up, just to see what happens

I made a little bit more progress this week...it was the first week of class so I was sort of busy

I have been working a lot on eel proofing the setup

here is my solution for the overflow protection, it is gutter guard that I carefully bent and it is staying on pretty well

and here is the back of the canopy

and here is the schplitter loop I made for the return flow into the tank

thanks again for looking everyone

Jarob · 09/14/2007, 09:43 PM

haha the BK loop. today actually I closed off two of the outlets in the front and installed two eductors on the side two outlets. let me just say they are insane how much the flow increased, when they were put on, the sand in the center of the tank cleared completly, so I had to open one more of the outlets to slow the flow a little. so with two eductors on the side and one regular 3/4" opening in the front the tank is getting MASSIVE flow, the fish love it.

latazyo · 09/14/2007, 09:48 PM

did you buy or build the eductors?

my BK loop is not glued or anything so it can be modified

do you think I should change it to only one front outlet instead of 2?

Schplitter · 09/14/2007, 10:01 PM

Leave it like it is and do what he did. 2 enductors on the back and 2 hydor rotin deflectors. You should not need any other pumps in there...

You don't need to glue the T's. Just glue the 90's and the T that's comming from the pump..

One thing I would change is the 2 outlets that are on the back of the tank. I would put those outlets on each side or offset them...If you keep them like that you will destroy the flow from the front outlets with the flow from the back outlets...

BK

latazyo · 09/14/2007, 10:06 PM

the back outlets are 3/4>1/2 threaded reducing Tees....my 1/2" locline will thread right into them so it'll be locline outputs on those

Schplitter · 09/14/2007, 10:06 PM

If you want enductors they are very easy to make and cost about 5 bucks for 2. Feel free to come on over and take a look at how I built mine

09/06/2007, 06:43 PM	#1
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	latazyo's new 40BR tank build thread this is the new 40BR I bought....this thread will be just as detailed as my old one my old tank build thread can be seen BY CLICKING HERE I am gonna just swap the tanks on the stand that the old tank is on anyways.... Tank : 40BR All-glass aquarium w/ glass overflow and hole drilled for 1.25" drain Lighting : 1x175w MH, pfo parallel reflector, 15KK iwasaki bulb, Ice Cap ballast....2x39w T5 actinic supplementation (to be added at a later date) Sump & other equipment : as described in my previous build Return pump : Mag 9.5 not quite sure about livestock yet, but I figured out that the 40BR actually has a bigger footprint than a 55, so that's pretty cool...should open up some fish options PICS here is the overflow I made being siliconed in...note that I have NEVER been accused of doing a clean siliconing job this is a DIY bulkhead that IM using on this tank....why? because that is the size holesaw I had access to and witha DIY PVC bulkhead I can run 1.25" drain instead of just 1" here is the canopy being painted...flat black and white as always here are the doors installed and painted...unfortunately the huge reflector for the MH doesnt leave much space despite the doors I got some pretty sweet fans for the hood...Ive got two of them and here is the gutter guard Im using to keep snails and fish in the tank and not in the overflow...it was $1.26 at Home Depot and Im painting it black __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/06/2007, 07:21 PM	#2
Schplitter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakville, MO Posts: 3,767	dude, remember I told you that you can use 1.5" or did we use the wrong bit? BK __________________ "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 110 Gal Display, 125 Gal Custom Sump in basement fish room, 2- G3 XR30 Radion's + 2 48' Retrofit T5"s, Super Reef Octopus XP 2000 SSS Skimmer, 2 - Vortech MP-40, Panworld NH-200PS Return, 8x2' Frag tank, DIY refugium lighting, DIY frag tank lighting.

09/06/2007, 07:23 PM	#3
Schplitter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakville, MO Posts: 3,767	Where did you get those fans? __________________ "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 110 Gal Display, 125 Gal Custom Sump in basement fish room, 2- G3 XR30 Radion's + 2 48' Retrofit T5"s, Super Reef Octopus XP 2000 SSS Skimmer, 2 - Vortech MP-40, Panworld NH-200PS Return, 8x2' Frag tank, DIY refugium lighting, DIY frag tank lighting.

09/06/2007, 07:28 PM	#4
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	we must have used the wrong bit, I went to lowes and bought 1.5" and come outside and checked it in my car and it didnt fit only the 1.25" fitting works the fans are from newegg.com its where I get all of my computer **** I got dual 120mm fans 78CFM, they seem pretty hardcore, but I bet they'll be loud as hell $23 shipped for the fans __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/06/2007, 08:06 PM	#6
Chelsey Clownfish Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 5,031	It'll be interesting to see what you choose to do with your 40 breeder I should post pics of mine sometime, but I want to wait until things grow out a bit. As a side note, I recommend newegg for anything and everything...they're great, it's too bad they don't sell reef stuff __________________ Always bear in mind your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing. Current Tank Info: 100 gallon cube, 28 gallon snowflake tank, 2500 gallon broodstock system

09/06/2007, 08:04 PM	#5
Jarob Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 409	I am using the same gutter guard to cover my overflow

09/06/2007, 08:17 PM	#7
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	yeah, its going to have very little live rock in it probably two islands not sure about fish yet the 20L that is plumbed into it will have softies and a damsel and some other stuff that is not reef friendly I also started a .9 gallon cube..its so small, I filled it up and carried it around http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1201240 __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows. Last edited by latazyo; 09/06/2007 at 08:44 PM.

09/08/2007, 10:47 AM	#8
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	did the leak testing yesterday and it was a huge success here is the overflow box, it did not leak....but with 10 pounds of silicone on the joints I guess I dont see how it could have and here is the DIY bulkhead - NOT LEAKING! when I installed the 1.25" "bulkhead" it was pretty loose, so I reamed the hole out a little with the dremel and it now fits 1.5" so 1.5" drain in a 2" hole....not bad at all I may or may not post finished canopy pics tonight thanks for looking __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/08/2007, 10:53 AM	#9
DrBDC Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ballwin, Missouri Posts: 10,358	If you could ever get that 4" hole saw for the fans! If you read this, he's running to St. Claire then he'll be over. __________________ Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, some just gargle, but most are rabid. Current Tank Info: 180g sps+75 softy/lps on one system tunze's, seio's, mjmods, aquacontroller w/add ons, 2X400 XM10000 and 3X160 vho actinic, 110g sump, 110 frag tank, Geo Beckett and other stuff

09/08/2007, 10:55 AM	#10
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	Im giving it a 1% chance he remembers the saw haha __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/08/2007, 10:01 PM	#11
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	well my holesaw guy finally came through so I got the canopy fans installed and wired here is the view from inside...I mounted them crooked so that the screws for the fan and the screws from the outside cover would not hit each other and outside __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/08/2007, 10:03 PM	#12
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	nice double post....me __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/09/2007, 07:29 AM	#13
Schplitter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakville, MO Posts: 3,767	What's the verdict? Loud? Quiet? __________________ "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 110 Gal Display, 125 Gal Custom Sump in basement fish room, 2- G3 XR30 Radion's + 2 48' Retrofit T5"s, Super Reef Octopus XP 2000 SSS Skimmer, 2 - Vortech MP-40, Panworld NH-200PS Return, 8x2' Frag tank, DIY refugium lighting, DIY frag tank lighting.

09/09/2007, 08:32 AM	#14
DrBDC Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ballwin, Missouri Posts: 10,358	I hope those are quiet. You actually ordered different ones than I was talking about with you. Those are 78cfm @ 34 dB. The others were 76cfm@21 db. __________________ Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, some just gargle, but most are rabid. Current Tank Info: 180g sps+75 softy/lps on one system tunze's, seio's, mjmods, aquacontroller w/add ons, 2X400 XM10000 and 3X160 vho actinic, 110g sump, 110 frag tank, Geo Beckett and other stuff

09/09/2007, 08:36 AM	#15
DrBDC Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ballwin, Missouri Posts: 10,358	We all know where to borrow a compound miter now! __________________ Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, some just gargle, but most are rabid. Current Tank Info: 180g sps+75 softy/lps on one system tunze's, seio's, mjmods, aquacontroller w/add ons, 2X400 XM10000 and 3X160 vho actinic, 110g sump, 110 frag tank, Geo Beckett and other stuff

09/09/2007, 08:37 AM	#16
DrBDC Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ballwin, Missouri Posts: 10,358	Where did you buy the fan covers? __________________ Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, some just gargle, but most are rabid. Current Tank Info: 180g sps+75 softy/lps on one system tunze's, seio's, mjmods, aquacontroller w/add ons, 2X400 XM10000 and 3X160 vho actinic, 110g sump, 110 frag tank, Geo Beckett and other stuff

09/09/2007, 08:47 AM	#17
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	SUPER QUIET these fans are awesome __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/09/2007, 09:05 AM	#18
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	Roy, I didnt notice that you went on a 34 post posting spree while I was replying to Schplitter - yeah that saw is so awesome, they're less than 100 bucks (if you get an off brand like mine) and it is so handy for everything....I use a jigsaw for cutting plywood because I hate circular saws I need a panel saw (haha) anyways, yeah I got the 78cfm fans...they're quieter than the 2" fan on my t5 fixture...and that is both of them the fan covers I got at Gateway Electronics for $1 each they had some foam in them but it had disintegrated (think he keeps stock on hand very long?) but that is good because I didnt want it at all....so as a result they're sticky w/ glue, but I put them in the sink w/ dish soap for about 30 seconds and they were perfectly clean __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/09/2007, 09:10 AM	#19
DrBDC Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ballwin, Missouri Posts: 10,358	__________________ Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, some just gargle, but most are rabid. Current Tank Info: 180g sps+75 softy/lps on one system tunze's, seio's, mjmods, aquacontroller w/add ons, 2X400 XM10000 and 3X160 vho actinic, 110g sump, 110 frag tank, Geo Beckett and other stuff

09/14/2007, 09:27 PM	#20
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	since Im graduating in exactly 2 years and I dont plan on bringing any aquarium stuff with me when I move I am going to be doing a lot of experimenting and cost cutting with this set up, just to see what happens I made a little bit more progress this week...it was the first week of class so I was sort of busy I have been working a lot on eel proofing the setup here is my solution for the overflow protection, it is gutter guard that I carefully bent and it is staying on pretty well and here is the back of the canopy and here is the schplitter loop I made for the return flow into the tank thanks again for looking everyone __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/14/2007, 09:43 PM	#21
Jarob Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 409	haha the BK loop. today actually I closed off two of the outlets in the front and installed two eductors on the side two outlets. let me just say they are insane how much the flow increased, when they were put on, the sand in the center of the tank cleared completly, so I had to open one more of the outlets to slow the flow a little. so with two eductors on the side and one regular 3/4" opening in the front the tank is getting MASSIVE flow, the fish love it.

09/14/2007, 09:48 PM	#22
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	did you buy or build the eductors? my BK loop is not glued or anything so it can be modified do you think I should change it to only one front outlet instead of 2? __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.

09/14/2007, 10:01 PM	#23
Schplitter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakville, MO Posts: 3,767	Leave it like it is and do what he did. 2 enductors on the back and 2 hydor rotin deflectors. You should not need any other pumps in there... You don't need to glue the T's. Just glue the 90's and the T that's comming from the pump.. One thing I would change is the 2 outlets that are on the back of the tank. I would put those outlets on each side or offset them...If you keep them like that you will destroy the flow from the front outlets with the flow from the back outlets... BK __________________ "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 110 Gal Display, 125 Gal Custom Sump in basement fish room, 2- G3 XR30 Radion's + 2 48' Retrofit T5"s, Super Reef Octopus XP 2000 SSS Skimmer, 2 - Vortech MP-40, Panworld NH-200PS Return, 8x2' Frag tank, DIY refugium lighting, DIY frag tank lighting.

09/14/2007, 10:06 PM	#24
latazyo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,972	the back outlets are 3/4>1/2 threaded reducing Tees....my 1/2" locline will thread right into them so it'll be locline outputs on those __________________ Friends dont let friends use HOB overflows.