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Unread 07/02/2009, 03:10 PM   #1
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Tang Tang's Tank Upgrade

I am currently upgrading from my 75 to a 125. At the moment I am reinforcing the stock stand with 2x4s. I think the largest sump I can fit will be a 55. How would you divide you sump for a skimmer section, fuge, and return section?

Also, I currently run 48" VHOs and I am thinking about getting a 24" set on VHOs to add to the new tank.
What do you think about this idea?

Also, this tank is not drilled, should I use the same CPR overflow box or should I try to install one myself?
I have a lot of pics coming.


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Unread 07/02/2009, 05:55 PM   #2
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drill it before it gets set up. worth it!


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Unread 07/02/2009, 07:22 PM   #3
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Hi there my friend!
www.glass-holes.com sell kits. tank is easy to drill.
Spend the money to get 6ft bulbs if you want to stay VHO

I would do MH and use your 4ftvho as artinic supplement


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Unread 07/02/2009, 10:07 PM   #4
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+1 on the drilling. +1 on glass holes. If you need help Tang, you know where to ask.


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Unread 07/04/2009, 08:12 AM   #5
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Hi there my friend!
www.glass-holes.com sell kits. tank is easy to drill.
Spend the money to get 6ft bulbs if you want to stay VHO

I would do MH and use your 4ftvho as artinic supplement
Where would you mount the MH?


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Unread 07/04/2009, 08:17 AM   #6
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You have Pic of inside of hood?
125g 6ft? (3 bulb) or 120g 4ft? (2 bulb)


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Where would you mount the MH?
Where would I drill the holes? Do I need to get an overflow kit?


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Unread 07/04/2009, 08:21 AM   #8
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It is is a 6ft 125. I haven't built the canopy yet. Just bought tank last week.


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Unread 07/04/2009, 08:26 AM   #9
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Get the 1500 GPH kit from glass-holes. It comes with everything you need. You drill the back near the top. You could position the overflow anywhere along the back that you wish.


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Unread 07/05/2009, 08:54 AM   #10
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Will the glass still be strong after I drill?


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Not a problem. Lots of people do it.


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Unread 07/05/2009, 09:06 AM   #12
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http://www.hellolights.com/index.asp...OD&ProdID=1358

would this be sufficient?
If so, which MH bulbs should I get?
Are TRU T5s any good?


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Unread 07/05/2009, 09:26 AM   #13
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Where would you mount the MH?
Chances are you have a foot or so wide center glass support? Just center the MH between this and the end of the tank.

I run 2X250 SE with 2X60" VHO for supplement. Im thinking of adding 2 more 48" VHO's. I already have the bulbs and ballast. I think its just hard for the 60"s to punch through the 10KMH so I wanna add some more blue.


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Unread 07/05/2009, 01:04 PM   #14
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http://www.hellolights.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=530

If your building hood, buy 3 of these, mount them inside of hood centered over each 2ft section of tank.
You can also mount the vho you have, off to the sides, for artinic.


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Unread 07/05/2009, 02:16 PM   #15
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My current vhos are 48". Could I mount those in the middle and two MHs, one on each side?


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Would not look balanced. you would do better putting one MH in middle! If you doing a 4ft tank for slump, in a stand, a 33g may be easier to use. IE, better access


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I did not like the TRU t5's. burnt out quickly
As for bulbs,
(electronic ballast)
175w Iwasaki 15k
250w 14k Aquaconnect
400w many diff. bulbs (20k Reeflux, Radium, etc)

If you go MH what ballast are you looking at?


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I guess a 250 watt ballast. Do I need MHs if I keep mostly softies?
You would say use a 33g rather than a 55?


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This is a 60" x 18" 125? I would go with a 4' sump. Watch out for 55Gs. They are often tempered on all 5 sides and are not drillable. If you aren't going to put in a bulkhead and will use a submersible pump, you are fine.

33L = 48 x 13 x 12
40L = 48 x 13 x 16
55G = 48 x 13 x 20


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Unread 07/05/2009, 05:56 PM   #20
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Naw, you could go t5, vho, pc. I ran 6ea-6ft VHO in my 125. It was fine till I went to sps and clam.
the 55 is just not a good in stand-under tank slump. its too tall to allow you to "work in the slump". Hope that makes sense
the 4ft 33g or the 3ft 30g long is a better choice for you.
Many stands can not fit either, so make sure you put it in before you fill display!


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Unread 07/05/2009, 06:32 PM   #21
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20" high is fine for a "slump" (we call them a sump in the DC area) as long as you dont have a really short stand. IMO, 12" is too short. You want to have volume for a fuge and also capacity for display drainback when the power is off. The 40L @ 16" high is pretty good if the 55 is too high.


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Sorry, I used terms (slump) from my Air-conditioning days. It is a sump.

I used a 30L on my 125 with no problems. the 40L does sound good! I had never seen one!
Tang, they do have a sump cal. on home page that can help you.


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Unread 07/05/2009, 07:26 PM   #23
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I figured slump must have been some tech term I wasn't familiar with. A 125G will drain back 5.6G for every inch it drops. If the display level drops 2" with power off, be sure you have about 12G of reserve space in the slump.

Now you got me saying it!


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Unread 07/06/2009, 06:43 AM   #24
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I will measure the stand height today.
The tank is 72" long. I noticed the 60" lights were considerably cheaper. I don't plan on going to clam/sps, do I still need MH?


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Unread 07/08/2009, 06:13 AM   #25
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Ok, I think I have decided to go with a standard 55gal sump/fuge.
I finished reinforcing the stand last night, but I have to leave the 2 middle supports out so I can the drop the 55 in from the top.

I would like to use this as a sump for my skimmer and return and refugium. How would I divide it up?


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