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Old 10/05/2004, 05:22 PM   #1
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Foam stuff for the "rock work" look????

Im looking for the Foam stuff people use in their tank to give the wall's the rock work look. Anyone know exactly what it's call, and maybe have any pictures of what the container looks like so i know what im looking for when i go to get it? Thanks.


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Old 10/05/2004, 08:46 PM   #2
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Old 10/05/2004, 08:48 PM   #3
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yea i heard, so what's it called?
and know where i can find some pix of the container it come's in?


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Old 10/05/2004, 08:52 PM   #4
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....I will tell you it is called "great stuff".HD or Lowes'.I used it when I ran out of rocks on my ponds' water fall.If you are trying to be funny Ha Ha
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Old 10/05/2004, 08:54 PM   #5
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lol thanks, know where i can find a pic of the container


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Old 10/05/2004, 08:56 PM   #6
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does this stuff need to be cured chemically or do you just spray it and add water, im thinking about spraying it on 5in PVC fittings to make Rock looking caves. I basically want to make the PVC look like Rock. So should i just spray it on the pvc and wait for it to dry and add it, or does it need to go through a type of physical/chemical cycle? thanks alot.


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Old 10/05/2004, 09:03 PM   #7
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...The best I can tell ya is how my Dad descibed it to me.....It looks like a can of pam.It was a few years back but I believe the label implied you would have to use the whole can once you broke the seal.Just don't,I repeat don't get that stuff on your hands.It will take days for it to wear off.This is from experience
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Old 10/05/2004, 09:24 PM   #8
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You do need to use the whole thing at once or make sure you clean the valve out. Even with a good cleaning it may not work again but it did for me.

As for curing, I have yet to put water in the tank but from what I have read once it is set it is good to go but I am still going to fill it up once with fresh water then again with salt water before I fill it up w/ my live stock.

And like mickey said this stuff does no come off your hand without taking some skin so wear gloves!


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Old 10/05/2004, 09:40 PM   #9
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I have head this foam being used for rock looking structure. just make sure you protect it from UV because I have heard that it may not be UV stable and it starts to break down over time.

The rock should be cured and dry before you put it in the water.

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Old 10/06/2004, 08:54 AM   #10
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You can also sprinkle bits of sand and rubble on it while it is still wet to give it a more natural look as well as pressing small rocks into it for even more texture.

This might help lessen the effect of UV breakdown but it's still going to happen given enough time depending on what kind of lighting you have.

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Old 10/06/2004, 08:57 AM   #11
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...The rocks I made for the top of my pond waterfall are four years old now.Not a sign of UV problems.It sure is "Great Stuff"
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Old 10/06/2004, 09:35 AM   #12
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lol thanks, know where i can find a pic of the container
You will find it in the insulation section at home depot or lowes. If I remember right it is in a yellow and red spray can.


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Old 10/06/2004, 10:25 AM   #13
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can post a pic of the spary can ??


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Old 10/06/2004, 10:30 AM   #14
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it comes in black too btw.

look on pond supply sites and catalogs.


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Old 10/06/2004, 12:27 PM   #15
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THis is the first Ive heard of this stuff. Does anyone have any photos of finished products? just curious as to what it looks like?


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Old 10/06/2004, 12:56 PM   #16
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Here's the link for it:

http://www.dow.com/greatstuff/index.htm


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Old 10/06/2004, 03:15 PM   #17
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hey guys,

I'll try to give you a pic of my newly setup with this stuff. It really is very nice. It holds rocks very well, but it is hard to get it to stay very well on vertical surfaces. So whatever you are doing you will have to lay it flat so that you can get it horizontal.

I would definitely use some small pieces of rock and also some very coarse... like caribsea seafloor mix on it. You could probably add the caribsea seafloor mix a minute after you've sprayed it and wait about 5 minutes before you drop the larger pieces of rock in it or they will just sink into the foam... although it creates these cool little pockets in the foam.

I didn't use seafloor and just used large pieces of rock, but I'm going to be working hard on growing stuff on the wall and also hope that coralline takes a liking to the stuff.

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Old 10/06/2004, 03:21 PM   #18
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What I meant by it is hard to get it to stay vertical is that it is hard to apply it on vertical surfaces because it can slide a bit.

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Just don't,I repeat don't get that stuff on your hands.It will take days for it to wear off.This is from experience
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Old 10/06/2004, 04:21 PM   #20
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Enjoy these pictures :)

So these are the pics of my newly setup 60 gallon cube complete with foam/rock backdrop.




[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...design_005.jpg [/IMG]







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Old 10/06/2004, 04:30 PM   #21
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Will that start to "get live" and darken up?


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Old 10/06/2004, 04:41 PM   #22
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I would certainly hope so... but only time will tell... but I have seen some good tanks... Tanu comes to mind.

He has an amazing backdrop with corals and coralline encrusting all over his. It's really nice.

The pay off takes awhile, but like anything else in this hobby. I definitely think it will be worth it.

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Old 10/06/2004, 05:17 PM   #23
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Looks Interesting...I like it!...Is this stuff reef-safe from the get go or do you have to wait to cure it? if so how long...?

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Old 10/06/2004, 05:28 PM   #24
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I sprayed it on and then let it sit for about a week and then rinsed it off with water from the garden hose and then I filled it up to wet test everything and just ran it for about 2 days and then emptied out the freshwater and then just let it sit for awhile longer to let everything dry.

So far I've had nothing happen to any of the inhabitants.

It's pretty inert after it has cured. Just rinse whatever residues may remain on it after it has cured and I think you should be good to go.

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Old 10/06/2004, 08:59 PM   #25
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I think the best means of securing the foam is to silicon multiple anchors made of glass to the walls and floor where the foam will make contact. I guess they would look like an 'n' made out of a few pieces of sandwiched glass. I think if you had quite a few of these it would very securely anchor the boyant foam.

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