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07/10/2013, 04:21 PM | #1 |
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What Zeo Products Are You Using?
By my count there are more than 20 Zeo additives available plus Zeo media and Zeo Filters. I am confused about which ones I should be using on my two month old 180 Zeo tank.
I am currently using: ZeoBak – 7 drops 2x a week Sponge Power – 7 drops a day ZeoStart – 1.4 ml daily in two separate doses Pohl’s Xtra Special – 7 drops daily BioMate – 7 drops 2x a week ZeoLife – 1 capful (10 ml) 2x a week K Balance – 1 ml daily (to keep potassium between 380-400 ppm) ZeoZyme – used 1 tsp once to combat cyano growth on some Marco dryrock. I also use 1.5 liters of Zeo stones and a ½ liter of Seachem Matrix GAC placed in a zeoreactor that I pump 10-15 times a day to release accumulated mulm and change every 30 days. I have about 50 SPS frags in the tank – mostly spread out on the bottom. Most seem to be doing well. (2 or 3 have bleached – I moved them into the shade and am hoping they will recover). Transfers from my other tank have definitely brightened up considerably and I see lots of PE. Fish = 3 juvenile yellow tangs, a juvy Purple Tang, and a yellow tail damsel, which seem to be getting along. Plus generous snail CUC from Reef Cleaners. Substrate/Rock Work One inch of Eden coral sand substrate. About 150# of Marco Dry Rock. 2 small pieces of live rock. (I bought 20# of cured LR from Premium Aquatics but had to dump most of it because it was covered with nasty brown macroalgae and a weird green rod-like macro-algae that I have seen described as indestructible and the destroyer of tanks.) To help seed the tank, I stuck three of the coralline encrusted frag platforms from my older tank behind the rockwork of the new tank. Filters, Lights, Circulation Only other filtration is a SRO 3000INT which works great. Lighting consists of 3 x 400 watt 20,000k Hamilton metal halides on magnetic ballasts. Too white for my tastes and will eventually make some changes there. Also 4 x 80 watt T5s (Blue Plus, Purple Plus, Actinic, Royal Blue), which are not enough to offset to white light from the MHs. Circulation: 2 x WP-40 pumps on opposite ends of the tank set on wavemaker function which my RKL controller turns on and off randomly for periods of up to an hour each. I just added a third WP-40 with the new variable speed function to blow over rocks showing cyano growth. 2 pumps (Eheim 3000 compacts) return water from sump through (1) chiller and (2) return overflow plumbing. Water Parameters I use KW to maintain Alk at 7.6, Calc at 425, Magnesium at 1400. Potassium is in the 380-400 range. Phosphate on Red Sea kit and Nitrate on API kit still show zero. (I have the Hanna Phosphate Checker and Salifert phosphate and nitrate kits on order to check those results. Now doing weekly 10% water changes with Instant Ocean salt and RO/DI water. So what other ZEO additives should I be considering using (if any) and why? What Zeo products are you using that worked (or did not work) for you? Thanks.
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07/11/2013, 08:08 AM | #2 |
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Any pics ?
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07/11/2013, 08:17 AM | #3 |
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Not necessary the right way, but how I used Zeovit can be found at #11 floor of http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2308288
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07/11/2013, 12:17 PM | #4 |
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I use:
Zeolite media-250ml ZEObak- 1 drop x3 weekly ZEOstart3- .2ml daily ZEOfood7- 1drop x2 weekly Sponge Power- 2 drops daily Amino Acids-2 drops daily Coral Vitalizer-1 drop x3 weekly (at night) Phol's Xtra- 1ml every other day Flatworm Stop-1ml daily Coral Booster- 1ml ever other day K-Balance- 1ml Weekly Flatworm Stop-1ml daily 2ml Coral Snow with 1 drop Zeobak added weekly or after water change no carbon or any other filtration methods other than my SRO INT 1000 What are you specifically looking to get with more additives? I would also suggest you up your dosage of pohl's xtra to 1ml per 400L of water. 9 drops daily is not a lot in a 180g system IMO.
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Looks like the only ones you're not using are ZeoLife and K Balance. Any reason why you passed on those? I notice that with some of them, you use them only when you reach ULNS. Ultra Low Nutrient System, right? What's your definition of ULNS? I'm kinda surprised your using ZeoZym on a regular basis. I thought this product was only used when there's a temporary problem with cyano, etc. Do you find that it's good for preventing problems? The one time I used it, it really clouded up the tank. I guess that's to be expected? Did you start out using all of the additives from the start of your tank or did you introduce them gradually? Thanks.
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Not much to see yet other than a sandbed full of frags but I'll try to post some pics this weekend.
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My goal is to get my SPS frags to grow into colonies that look something like shih87's, allmost's and other Zeo users. You're right about the Xtra. I thought the directions were 1 drop per 25 gallons. Guess I'll start increasing the dose. Yikes, that could get expensive fast. I have the Amino Acids and the Coral Vitalizer so I think I'll start dosing the CV first (at half strength to begin with) and then move on the AA. The one product that seems unnecessary at this point is the K Balance. every time I test for potassium it's above NSW. So I've discontinued it for now. Just out of curiosity, why did you decide to do without the GAC? On the Zeo site, I was told to start dosing ZeoLife as the next step. I've been dosing it for a few weeks, but can't say I see any impact on the tank yet. What's your opinion on the trace element type of additives (B Balance, Zeospur)? I've never seen the need for trace elements when I do weekly 10% water changes with IO salt, but I'm thinking of giving them a shot on the theory that "in for a penny, in for a pound." Anyways, thanks for the help.
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Yes, I don't think ZZ need to be use regularly, but I also heard use it once a week can prevent brown film happen again!? Zeolife for my understanding is for non Zeovite reactor system, but again, I maybe wrong.
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As for the B-Balance and Zeospur, I have never used either so I cannot comment on first hand knowledge. However, I have decided to not purchase B-Balance until I feel my corals are too dark and I need them to lighten up.
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I run full zeovit, if I were to pick only one supp it would be b balance,
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I just ordered some yesterday BTW. According to BRS, it "bring[s] out intense red and pink coloration in SPS corals." Did you find this to be the case?
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07/13/2013, 03:45 PM | #13 |
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Sounds good. Can't wait to start using it.
I started a thread in the Reef Discussion forum about the SPS in my non-Zeo tank browning despite what appear to be ULNS conditions. Do you think that B-Balance could help in a non-Zeo tank?
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