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Unread 11/17/2017, 01:42 PM   #1
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Question running 2 Gyre's on 60 inch tank

I'm thinking about buying a XF250 Gyre and match it with the XF150 I already have. My tank is 60x24x18 and they would be on opposite sides both horizontal.

Right now I have a mixed reef with Softies, LPS and only SPS is a Monti cap. I want to get into some more SPS down the line. Currently I run the XF150 at around 50 to 60%.

Is it worth it to buy another Gyre?


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Unread 11/18/2017, 05:18 AM   #2
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Let me ask some questions. Are you happy with the flow in your tank? Are you corals doing well? Does it do a good job of keeping the detritus on the bottom of the tank suspended so it can be filtered? If the answers are yes then IMO I would not at this time.

Future plans you say you want more sps. You also state you are only at 50 to 60%. If you do need more flow for sps corals then just turn up the one you have its probably plenty of flow if its turned up. If its not then consider adding a smaller powerhead or two so you can direct the stronger flow towards (Not direct) the sps and away from the softies. Remember too much flow your softies will not be happy.


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Unread 11/18/2017, 09:33 AM   #3
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Im doing the same, 2 X XF250's in a 60"x24"x24"

I also have two MP40's on the back glass, all sps though.


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Unread 11/20/2017, 12:17 PM   #4
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thanks for the response and info. Yes the flow is good in my tank right now. My idea to buy another Gyre is so I don't have to run them at full speed.(they get pretty loud at 100%)
Also I was thinking that the random flow from both side would make everything happy instead of flow from only 1 direction.


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Unread 11/20/2017, 12:34 PM   #5
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Always a fan of running pumps at no more than 80%. More like 60% is ideal IMO. The plus is those are a popular brand/model so selling one if you didn't like two shouldn't be hard.


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Unread 11/21/2017, 01:40 PM   #6
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is nobody running 2 Gyre's on a mixed tank?


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Unread 11/21/2017, 02:52 PM   #7
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I'm running a a 150 and 250 on a 72" 125 Gallon at 70% on each with the OGC program, as well as a 2 130's split in half on a 50 gallon 24" at 40% flow. I love the effects of them and agree; it allows me to lower the blast from one side and provide a more subtle even flow from both sides.


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Unread 11/21/2017, 09:13 PM   #8
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BRS recently switched their 160 to 2x gyres and had some interesting ideas on what flow patterns to use. I'd love to find a way to get their program to run on the stock controller instead of the apex modules but either way I think 2x is awesome.

I'm running two on my 150g and have 0 complaints other than the noise at times. A good cleaning and sometimes a knock and it goes away.




BRS160 APEX Tables for Alternating Gyres:

Left Gyre-
Fallback ON
tdata 00:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 00:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 01:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 02:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 03:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 03:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 04:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 05:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 06:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 06:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 07:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 08:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 09:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 09:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 10:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 11:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 12:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 12:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 13:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 14:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 15:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 15:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 16:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 17:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 18:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 18:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 19:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 20:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 21:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 21:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 22:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:59:58,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0



Right Gyre:
Fallback ON
tdata 00:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 00:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 01:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 02:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 03:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 03:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 04:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 05:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 06:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 06:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 07:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 08:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 09:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 09:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 10:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 11:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 12:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 12:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 13:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 14:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 15:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 15:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 16:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 17:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 18:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 18:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 19:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 20:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 21:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 21:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 22:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:59:58,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0


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Unread 11/21/2017, 10:56 PM   #9
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I have a gyre and a knockoff jeaboe crossflow (or whatever its called). My tank is 60". Works great. I'd recommend it. My favorite setting is the forward, backward. With one on each side of the tank, the flow pattern is always changing. They do not get clogged. IMO 2 is a must. I've maintenance mine about once int the last year.



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I have a gyre and a knockoff jeaboe crossflow (or whatever its called). My tank is 60". Works great. I'd recommend it. My favorite setting is the forward, backward. With one on each side of the tank, the flow pattern is always changing. They do not get clogged. IMO 2 is a must. I've maintenance mine about once int the last year.
Thanks for the info! I think I'm going to buy one this week.


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I have a gyre and a knockoff jeaboe crossflow (or whatever its called). My tank is 60". Works great. I'd recommend it. My favorite setting is the forward, backward. With one on each side of the tank, the flow pattern is always changing. They do not get clogged. IMO 2 is a must. I've maintenance mine about once int the last year.
I have the CP-40 as well I like it way better then the standard wavemakers. I just wish it was able to interface with the APEX for a more random flow.


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Unread 11/22/2017, 01:57 PM   #12
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Thanks everyone for the info. Just bought 1 from BRS
Should have it on Tuesday.


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Unread 11/22/2017, 02:49 PM   #13
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BRS recently switched their 160 to 2x gyres and had some interesting ideas on what flow patterns to use. I'd love to find a way to get their program to run on the stock controller instead of the apex modules but either way I think 2x is awesome.

I'm running two on my 150g and have 0 complaints other than the noise at times. A good cleaning and sometimes a knock and it goes away.




BRS160 APEX Tables for Alternating Gyres:

Left Gyre-
Fallback ON
tdata 00:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 00:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 01:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 02:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 03:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 03:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 04:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 05:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 06:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 06:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 07:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 08:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 09:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 09:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 10:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 11:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 12:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 12:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 13:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 14:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 15:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 15:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 16:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 17:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 18:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 18:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 19:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 20:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 21:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 21:45:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 22:30:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:15:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:59:58,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0



Right Gyre:
Fallback ON
tdata 00:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 00:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 01:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 02:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 03:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 03:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 04:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 05:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 06:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 06:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 07:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 08:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 09:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 09:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 10:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 11:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 12:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 12:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 13:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 14:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 15:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 15:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 16:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 17:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 18:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 18:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 19:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 20:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 21:00:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 21:45:00,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 22:30:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:15:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:59:58,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Wow had missed this BRS video somehow. I could have skipped the Triton stuff but WOW the gyre info was awesome.


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Wow had missed this BRS video somehow. I could have skipped the Triton stuff but WOW the gyre info was awesome.
Yeah, starts around the 7:40 mark. Good stuff.


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I get what the program is doing. Ramp up to 100 over 45 minutes, run at 100 for 45 minutes, ramp down to zero over 45 minutes, run at 0 for 45 minutes. But can someone please explain what all the 0,0,0,0 stuff is? I cannot find a reference to "tdata" in the Apex docs, and I don't ger what all the extra 0's are for.

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I’m tired of gyres dying on my so went back to tunzes.


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I get what the program is doing. Ramp up to 100 over 45 minutes, run at 100 for 45 minutes, ramp down to zero over 45 minutes, run at 0 for 45 minutes. But can someone please explain what all the 0,0,0,0 stuff is? I cannot find a reference to "tdata" in the Apex docs, and I don't ger what all the extra 0's are for.

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If you do a standard setup for say pumps/lights, then switch over to the advanced option, you will see all the Tdata values.

Now I have no idea what they mean, but thats how the auto programming sets them up.


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