Can Baker's yeast treat a Diatom outbreak?

[Raoul5Duke]

I decided to give this a try starting last night. I have been battling dinos for the last year, with little success. Everything else in my tank is doing great. I recently replaced all RO/DI filters, tested for silicates, did massive water changes, added extra snails and a couple of diamond watchman gobies, done lights out, etc. but still don't seem to be making progress. Hopefully this at least knocks them back.

[jason2459]

Originally Posted by Raoul5Duke

I decided to give this a try starting last night. I have been battling dinos for the last year, with little success. Everything else in my tank is doing great. I recently replaced all RO/DI filters, tested for silicates, did massive water changes, added extra snails and a couple of diamond watchman gobies, done lights out, etc. but still don't seem to be making progress. Hopefully this at least knocks them back.

dinoflagellates and diatoms are totally different.

[Lowefx]

Originally Posted by Raoul5Duke

I decided to give this a try starting last night. I have been battling dinos for the last year, with little success. Everything else in my tank is doing great. I recently replaced all RO/DI filters, tested for silicates, did massive water changes, added extra snails and a couple of diamond watchman gobies, done lights out, etc. but still don't seem to be making progress. Hopefully this at least knocks them back.

I read somewhere that you won't see any difference until day 3 or 4

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[Raoul5Duke]

Originally Posted by jason2459

dinoflagellates and diatoms are totally different.

It was a typo....

[Raoul5Duke]

Well, I dosed 1/4 of a teaspoon on my approx 400 gallon system every other day starting on 2/15. After the second dose I would say 90% of the diatoms had receded but I decided to do one additional dose last night. I know the gobies have been helpful churning the substrate this week but I really believe the yeast helped tremendously. I am interested to see if this is a long term solution as I recently replaced or tested every thing I could think of that was the source. I don't know if the science behind this makes sense but after exhausting all other solutions I am glad Matt started this thread. Thanks.

[enveetie]

I wonder how much longer until we see yeast packets on MD or BRS (if at all). I suppose that's when you'll know there's a solution to be had. I like to think of the mad scientists cooking up yeast batches in labs somewhere while following along to this thread and others.

[Salty150]

Originally Posted by enveetie

I wonder how much longer until we see yeast packets on MD or BRS (if at all). I suppose that's when you'll know there's a solution to be had. I like to think of the mad scientists cooking up yeast batches in labs somewhere while following along to this thread and others.

Hey, if it works...

[enveetie]

I'm not saying it doesn't, I would be tempted to try if I couldn't manage a crazy diatom situation. I'm interested in reading about the science behind it though.

[Raoul5Duke]

It's been a week and the diatoms have not returned. I did notice that my MG has gotten low, but I think that is due to some issues I was having with my ATO.

[SailAnnapolis]

Anyone have an update on this? I also can't tell if I have a Dino or a diatom outbreak. I cannot seem to be able to upload a pic

[Lowefx]

It did not work for my dinos.

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[acropora]

Has anyone who tried this seen any negative effect on their fish

[ReefKeeper64]

What is the verdict?

[acropora]

Updating , I have used this method on two tanks and it worked very well. No issues with corals or fish. Interesting enough I believe it may be the size of the micro pellets of yeast that attach to the diatoms. In another case of diatoms in a new set up, I moved some new sand around and it created a sand storm clouding the water for hours. When the dust settled the distoms also began to subside and die off.

[ReefKeeper64]

Originally Posted by acropora

Updating , I have used this method on two tanks and it worked very well. No issues with corals or fish. Interesting enough I believe it may be the size of the micro pellets of yeast that attach to the diatoms. In another case of diatoms in a new set up, I moved some new sand around and it created a sand storm clouding the water for hours. When the dust settled the distoms also began to subside and die off.

Acropora, Thanks for sharing your results. Would you mind looking over what I'm doing and let me know if I missed anything?

- Gallons: 160 gal total water volume.

- Product: Fleischmann's Rapid Rise Instant Yeast fast acting. Same as what is referenced in the vivid aquariums video.

- Ratio: Vivid aquariums video calls for 1/4 tsp per 400 gallons. I went with 1/8 tsp. That would be slightly over the ratio called for its difficult to measure to that minute level.

- Premixing: Added 1/8 tsp to 1 cup of tank water. Mixed it with a plastic spoon for a minute or so and then added it directly to the display tank all at once. The tank cleared up in a couple of minutes.



Tonight is day 0 so we'll see how it goes.

Thanks

[acropora]

Reefkeeper64 yes that’s the right amount. Three doses , day 1, 3 & 5. If you use filter socks the yeast will get trapped there as well as in your protein skimmer.

[ReefKeeper64]

Originally Posted by acropora

Reefkeeper64 yes that’s the right amount. Three doses , day 1, 3 & 5. If you use filter socks the yeast will get trapped there as well as in your protein skimmer.

Thanks for the reminders. I'll remove the filter socks now and turn off the skimmer for the remainder of the treatment.

DAY 1

[ReefKeeper64]

I heard from another reefer over at RtwoR that what I have isn't diatoms but rather lyngbya. Its a form of cyanobacteria.

[greengeco82]

Originally Posted by Lowefx

Because it was time for a water change, and it will help rid the diatoms. But after 2 days I still show little signs of diatoms again. You should try your own experiment rather than trolling me. I will continue my dosing for only a few more days because I'm going on vacation in a month, and I want my tank completely stabilized before I go. As of this time, I am not noticing any changes. I am also running a ulns Zeovit system which may play a factor. Good luck, and let us know what you find out.

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You wernt trolled. You just ruined the experiment that you decided to share. You might as well just stir the sand while your in there.

[Fringe09]

Does anyone know if using yeast will have a negative effect on Chaeto?

[bohannbj]

Not scientific at all but I brew my own beer and wine. I tossed a little of the yeast, pinot noir, from a fermented batch in for kicks and it just made the water cloudy on and off for a month or so. It would go from a little cloudy to perfectly clear in cycles of about a week. No issues with it anymore and nobody was hurt by it. I will say that the system is 550 gallons and the amount of yeast was about a cup.