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Can i use something like this Apollo Horticulture Purple Reign 6W MR16 LED https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AAWXNLA..._FMMtAbQJSZWMS
Or this ABI 12W Deep Red 660nm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H2Y5U4M..._C9MtAb30A8M2C 7W Desk Clip Plant Grow light. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ID6A1MO..._V.MtAbAK2CBGB 18W LED Grow Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXK4HS0..._AdNtAbZ405BA3 On a UAS as lighting? If not are there any cheap leds from amazon that are functional that dont require soldering etc.? Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk |
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01/05/2018, 11:43 AM | #9903 | |
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I would be using a horizontalfloating mesh (7 count canvas) with one side only lit from above, approx 10" away. It could possible have fine bubbles from wooden ayirstone, if helps at all. |
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01/05/2018, 11:45 AM | #9904 |
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Essentially this, except it will be in a black surround (to avoid light spill). Perhaps a powerhead to ensure it always has water passing over it.
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This is why I asked about the pump failure. I've had a pump fail for a day or so, sometimes when you have a power glitch a pump won't restart correctly and the impeller will get stuck in a vibration cycle, especially when the water column it is pushing up starts to fall back through the pump while the pump kicks back on. I've had this occur. Sometimes the pump will "catch" and the flow will kick back in, leaving you with a mystery about what happened. So if the flow is lost for a day or two while the lights are running, the screen cooks, and the leftover dried out residue does not allow for algae to easily attach for some reason. IME when this "baking" of the screen happens, you have to soak the screen in vinegar and scrub it down to the canvas and start over with the maturing cycle. The other way this can happen is a bit of a mystery effect that I refer to as "whiting". This is when you don't have a pump failure, but the algae will just turn stark white very quickly, like overnight (less than 24 hours). I've seen this happen repeatedly with one particular tank and I was not able to come up with an explanation - growth would start out OK, it wasn't over-lit (intensity and duration were not extreme) but a few days in (with just "whispy" green growth, and usually after a harvest, so not thick and light-blocking) the growth would just turn white. My only fallback was that there might be a particular nutrient level that drops and causes a full inhibition of production, such that the incoming light cannot be adsorbed and the result was a cascading failure of algae cells. Just a theory that fits the facts, but this is so infrequent of an occurrence that I haven't ever been able to nail it down. @sensei let me know which of the 2 scenarios seems to make sense. Also did anything else happen in this time period? Storms? General power loss? Have nutrients dropped in the system significantly over time? The last question there - if everything was hunky-dory for a long time and then this suddenly happened, that could also explain it. You may have hit a point where the intensity/duration of the scrubber lights were left alone while the "balance point" of the overall system dropped below that and you had the "whiting" cascade.
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01/05/2018, 06:03 PM | #9906 | ||
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something did happened in the chemistry of the system, since I introduced around 12 acropora frags 1 month ago and in the last 15 days I have noticed some burned tips, and it happened to be at the same time that I had this whitening effect, but I did not know until I cleaned the screen last week. I have not been able to know why the burned tips since kh has been stable and it only happened in the new acros, not on the established acroporas. can this whitening effect of the algae release some toxins in the water? phosphate increased from 0.02 to 0.07 but I guess is becuase the 4 cube ATS was not working. please let me know what you think thanks
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01/06/2018, 02:18 PM | #9907 | |
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Prior to the cleaning you say algae growth was more of less the same on both scrubber's screens ??? What was the difference between the two? Was there more than one type of algae on either or both screens? What was the algae(s) colors? How old is (was) the 4 cube screen,,, had it matured? How is the growth on the 2 cube screen right now? What differences are there between the two scrubbers in regards to flow & lighting? |
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01/06/2018, 03:31 PM | #9908 |
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They're on different tanks, separate systems
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01/06/2018, 04:00 PM | #9910 |
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I have super inside information about who he got his scrubbers from
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01/06/2018, 04:54 PM | #9911 |
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01/06/2018, 08:07 PM | #9913 |
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My scrubber build with leds on 72 gal custom tank. Built the stand and everything myself. I am doing a floating reef tank I cut rock and siliconed it the the tank with ASI aquarium safe silIcone
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01/07/2018, 11:39 AM | #9914 | |
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in May 2016 I installed the first 2 cube ATS in Oct 2016 I installed the other 4 cube ATS Both are in same tank, different parts of the sump and they have a different sumergible pump. the design of both are exactly the same with the difference that one is bigger. both have same red leds, and both run the same light skedule. I tryed to match both so that one does not outcompete the other one. they were both growing green hair algae. here are the pictures of the harvest of both before the bleaching of the 4 cube 2 cube.jpg 4 cube.jpg Thanks for your answer
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01/07/2018, 11:42 AM | #9915 |
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Floyd both are in the same tank.
I have a 3rd 2 cube ATS that is in a different tank but the two mentioned are in same tank, same 600 g system
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thanks a lot for your answers.
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01/08/2018, 05:50 AM | #9919 | |
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No way for that rock to come down with the asi silIcone I can put over 5lbs over the rock and it doesn’t budge. I can’t even cut that stuff once it’s dry. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I'm not so sure about this. While it seems to make sense from a logical perspective that whatever nutrients the algae has adsorbed in the process of growing would be released when the algae dies, it's not likely in the same form. Also there is probably something else released when algae dies off, like sugars. But the rise in phosphates is probably a combination of the filtering being less prevalent + the nutrient release from the algae dying. However I think the nutrient release is less of a factor since this seems to have happened shortly after cleaning...did I get that last part right? So the timeline is: 12/3/17 added acro frags 12/19/17 = Day 0 - cleaned scrubber, normal looking harvest 1/2/18 = Day 14 - Noticed scrubber is white Now, another piece of info (posted 1/3): Quote:
Is the growth on the L2 just fine? Normal looking harvest? If so, this just seems to point to an issue with the settings on the L4. A temporary pump failure would make the most sense. What you want to look for as evidence to indicate this is the presence of white encrustation on the screen, stuff that looks almost "baked on". If this happened for a few days right after you harvested, but then the water kicked back on, it would still be white and crusty/hard. Tell me about your pump controls - do you run the scrubber pumps off of a controller? Or do you manually plug/unplug them? If on a controller, is it possible that you didn't re-start the pump after cleaning, but the controller kicked it back on automatically a day later as part of a fallback mode? Tell me about the settings on the L4 and L2 - how many hours/day are the lights on? What intensity are they both at?
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01/08/2018, 11:41 AM | #9923 |
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Santa Monica Hogx Scrubber review
I have had a lot of good luck with the Santa Monica HOG1.3X. It fits perfect in my sump area. It's been running for about 2 months and I have ZERO algae in my display and a ton of it in the Scrubber. Then if you ever upgrade you can just add another one.
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I've also scraped off the excess algae on a screen I've decommissioned, left the screen sitting in the sunlight, dry, and the remaining base algae turned a pale creamy white colour - dead, after about seven days. When i've wet it, it turned soft and crumbly. An illuminated dry screen seems the only logical answer. |
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