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02/17/2015, 12:34 PM | #776 |
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Just gotta stick to what your doing and in time they should go away.
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02/17/2015, 12:45 PM | #777 |
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This already has been a long battle. Almost 2 years I actually have had better results when I took off the gfo. I also quit wetskimming. Blackouts would work for a little while but they only come back stronger . I have a 20+ year old reef and believe at this point it is time to pull all the old sand. And add new. I think I will also try adding some new rock and trying to resead. I think it is a balance issue and it just isn't balanced. On the other hand I am getting growth on all my corals and have to frag all the time. I have a small biocube that I have stocked with frags from my tank and no dinos present.
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02/17/2015, 03:15 PM | #778 | |
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Dinoflagellates.
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Hm that's weird you say that. I had Dino's, blacked out for 72 hours and when I turned the lights back on, HA started growing but no Dino's. So now I'm battling gha. I hope I don't beat gha only to have Dino's reemerge. And on top of that, my cuc doesn't seem to bat an eye at the gha -_- |
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02/17/2015, 03:39 PM | #779 | |
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*Edit: I mean via water parameter control. I don't know if herbivory would be an issue, though it stands to reason that it would not.
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02/17/2015, 04:14 PM | #780 |
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Does anyone know what actually causes Dino's? Is it something that has to be introduced?
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02/17/2015, 04:38 PM | #781 |
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On second thought, I think it's turf algae, not gha
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02/17/2015, 04:41 PM | #782 |
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They are hosted by corals, zooxanthellae, probably present in all systems but normally kept in check by something or caused to bloom by something.
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02/17/2015, 05:32 PM | #783 |
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There are many species of dinos and all of them have to be set into the aquarium. Some are almost "natural" and can coexist, while there are other that can play havoc if present (such as ostreopsis, gambierdiscus...). Some can develop toxic substances and many others are just banal.
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02/17/2015, 05:35 PM | #784 |
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I agree with Amohiprium: algal growth discourages most dinoflagellate species. That's a fact I am very accustomed to with my ostreopsis and amphidinum issues.
But now I think I am close to an ultimate solution: I found a natural parasite that is cleaning my tanks and my buddies ones flawlessly. |
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02/17/2015, 10:56 PM | #786 |
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I would but I live in Madrid, Spain. The parasite is parvilucifera, and can rid a lot of dino species in about two weeks.
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02/18/2015, 05:33 AM | #787 |
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Montireef, It is interesting that you have been able to put a name to the protozoa. How were you able to identify the parasite to this genus?
Any negative effects on your corals? I am just curious if the parasite poses any risks to the symbionts in the coral tissue. Dennis
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02/18/2015, 10:22 AM | #789 |
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so your telling me lucifer has rid your tanks of dinos...
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02/18/2015, 10:49 AM | #790 |
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Wait a second am I missing something? If it is true that algae growth discourages algae, wouldn't running macro algae In a fuge discourage Dino's as well?
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02/18/2015, 11:22 AM | #791 |
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Even if there would be a complete suceess with parvilucifera we would have to wait at least 3 months to see if cysts will recontaminate the tank.
At that point the parasite could be extinct and dinos free again to rule the tank. I've got hopes for this parasite, it's the best new method I've seen in a long time. Perhaps it's the absence of it that causes dino blooms. If I speculate a bit further, we have still not found out what causes blooms in our tanks and don't know what the favorable conditions are so even if 99.99% of them die the conditions remain favorable. Since there are millions of dinos in an infested tank a parasite would have a hard time finding them all. --- Budman, identify your dinos and go from there. Your new live rock plan could be helpful. |
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I could not replace my carbon after 4 weeks as usual and my SPS corals took the fast route south with tissue necrosis in week 6, just like last year.
As soon as I could do the maintenance it stopped. I'd think this is an indicator to the tolerance levels of my corals to the palytoxins. |
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Can someone help identify if these are Dino's? They are strands coming off of the zoas, a little difficult to see but they are redish/brownish in color. |
02/18/2015, 12:40 PM | #794 |
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I would say, they are. Your zoos are puking a kind of dinoflagellate called zooxanthela.
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Ostreopsis completely gone in less than two weeks, no effect on fishes or inverts (and I have about 400 SPSs corals) |
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02/18/2015, 12:51 PM | #796 |
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Who is "we" and which lab is this?
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02/18/2015, 01:03 PM | #797 | |
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I know what you're talking about but I don't think that's the case as I have a few strands here and there else where in the tank. It's nothing you would notice unless you looked extremely closely but it worries me now. |
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02/18/2015, 01:27 PM | #798 |
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It happens in healthy tanks like when you rub against corals and such.
Don't worry about it unless it gets obvious, with brown mats or lots of strings. |
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Well that's part of it is that I did get obvious. I blacked out for 72 hours (this must have been 3 weeks ago) then went just actinics for a week and now full lighting. As soon as I originally turned the lights back on I started getting turf or hair algae. And now I'm starting to notice some of this. |
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The good news is that this parasite also kills the thecate and non thecate cysts (pellicles). Taken from our scientists studies: "Pellicle (asexual )cysts,were not long term resistant to parasite infection,since their presence was not observed in the infected cultures after all mobile stages had been killed (5–7days after infection)." In the pictures you can see an infected round cell amongst many healthy ostreopsis cells and two ostreopsis cells that have lost their theca. |
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