Can the Warner Marine MF Series run with the Big Dogs?

layer3switchguy · 10/13/2011, 10:58 AM

Folks,

Any opinions on if the Warner Marine MF 161, 181 and 201 can perform at the same level as say Bubble King 180? I need a smaller footprint skimmer, and like the looks of the Warner Marine, but don't want to buy another skimmer again! I'm willing to pay the price to do it right the first time, but if I can save money, even better!

Can this $300-400 skimmer run with an equal size skimmer from say Bubble King, RO, Vertex, etc? Those skimmers are twice the price and then some!

I'm willing to pay the price to do it right the first time, but if I can save money, even better!

Would love to get everyones opinion!

Cheers,
L3

drunkfish3 · 10/13/2011, 11:36 AM

for the same money i would recommend a SRO skimmer a sro2000 or xp2000 or if space is a issue a xp2000ss would all be good fits.

gcarroll · 10/13/2011, 01:08 PM

The MF201 is a beast and that is what I would choose for your tank. They are dead silent with low wattage pumps. The skimmer is really the goods and I am impressed with the performance.

Garage1217 · 10/13/2011, 01:23 PM

The sro-3000int has a footprint of 14.5 x 10 and would be ridiculously awesome for the money for a 180. I own the 5000 on a 225 and it is poo foaming awesome.

http://www.aquacave.com/reef-octopus...mmer-2998.html

gcarroll · 10/13/2011, 01:40 PM

The MF-201 has a 9" x 9" footprint which will fit in the smallest of sump chambers.

Garage1217 · 10/13/2011, 02:03 PM

We should ask the OP, what is the space you have available? If he can manage it, I would go with an external pump vs. internal but no idea what he has to work with.

layer3switchguy · 10/13/2011, 03:36 PM

Thanks guys, internal wouold be ideal... I'm leaning toward the Warner Marine skimmer, as I really like the design, and the way the output comes out of the bottom. Now I'm just not sure if the MF-201 would be overkill for my system, and cause issues...

voyagerx · 10/13/2011, 05:09 PM

I have the MF 161 and am loving it so far. It is well built, after 1.5 weeks is working nicely, and I have received exceptional support from Warner Marine based in the US.

gcarroll · 10/13/2011, 05:46 PM

You cannot overskim an aquarium. A big skimmer gives you more leeway to fead heavily which be be more beneficial to your reef tank than minimizing feeding to prevent pollution. This is my opinion, but if you don'tbeleive my theory, start looking at the best tanks in the world. Most all have skimmers that are rated for much more than the tank they are running on. Not a debate but fact.

layer3switchguy · 10/13/2011, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcarroll

You cannot overskim an aquarium. A big skimmer gives you more leeway to fead heavily which be be more beneficial to your reef tank than minimizing feeding to prevent pollution. This is my opinion, but if you don'tbeleive my theory, start looking at the best tanks in the world. Most all have skimmers that are rated for much more than the tank they are running on. Not a debate but fact.

Great to know, and thanks... I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on the MF-201!

Buganddoug · 10/13/2011, 07:07 PM

I love my MF-251 cone skimmer. It is skimming big time. This is my 2nd Warner Marine skimmer and I have no complaints at all!

layer3switchguy · 10/13/2011, 08:21 PM

Thanks, anyplace other than DR Mac to order these from? I love Dr Mac, but the website kept blowing up on me when I went to purchase.

billwill · 10/13/2011, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layer3switchguy

Thanks, anyplace other than DR Mac to order these from? I love Dr Mac, but the website kept blowing up on me when I went to purchase.

I see them at Pacific East Aquaculture, with videos and reviews from. Oops, just realized that this IS Dr Mac. Sorry. Looks like a great skimmer and a great price.

pmrossetti · 10/13/2011, 10:55 PM

2 Sicce 1000s at 40w total is awesome efficiency.

gcarroll · 10/14/2011, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billwill

I see them at Pacific East Aquaculture, with videos and reviews from. Oops, just realized that this IS Dr Mac. Sorry. Looks like a great skimmer and a great price.

reeffiltration dot com

gcarroll · 10/14/2011, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrossetti

2 Sicce 1000s at 40w total is awesome efficiency.

The Warner Marine does not use Sicce. It uses Eden. They are another OEM pump manufactuer in Italy that makes many of the pumps for Eheim and the Marineland utility seiries.

layer3switchguy · 10/14/2011, 09:42 AM

Guys,

Is the MF251 (Cone) worth the additional dollars over the 250? I do see the dual pumps on the 251. I know overkill is not a bad thing, but that model is rated 2x over my tank volume. I'm not afraid of spending more, as I want to buy once, and never again!

solitude127 · 10/14/2011, 09:44 AM

Has Jon updated his website yet?

layer3switchguy · 10/14/2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solitude127

Has Jon updated his website yet?

Not yet!

Buganddoug · 10/14/2011, 03:00 PM

By the way my two Eden 5000 pumps are only pulling 35 watts total.

10/13/2011, 10:58 AM	#1
layer3switchguy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 843	Can the Warner Marine MF Series run with the Big Dogs? Folks, Any opinions on if the Warner Marine MF 161, 181 and 201 can perform at the same level as say Bubble King 180? I need a smaller footprint skimmer, and like the looks of the Warner Marine, but don't want to buy another skimmer again! I'm willing to pay the price to do it right the first time, but if I can save money, even better! Can this $300-400 skimmer run with an equal size skimmer from say Bubble King, RO, Vertex, etc? Those skimmers are twice the price and then some! I'm willing to pay the price to do it right the first time, but if I can save money, even better! Would love to get everyones opinion! Cheers, L3 __________________ 120g Oceanic Tech (48x24x24) 90lbs of Live Rock ATB Small Cone ATI 8 Bulb Powermodule (T5) 2 Vortech MP40W Prodibio Profilux P3ex Controlled Current Tank Info: 120g Oceanic Tech

10/13/2011, 01:08 PM	#3
gcarroll Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 9,666	The MF201 is a beast and that is what I would choose for your tank. They are dead silent with low wattage pumps. The skimmer is really the goods and I am impressed with the performance. __________________ Greg Carroll I will be at REEF-A-PALOOZA! SPS = Stability Promotes Success Be wary of advice coming from those who will not show you the fruits of their success! Current Tank Info: building: 250g AGE Euro tank, Abyzz A200, Vertex Supra-G filtration, Ecotech Radion Pro LEDs, ...

10/13/2011, 01:23 PM	#4
Garage1217 GET OFF MY LAWN Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Globally Posts: 5,863	The sro-3000int has a footprint of 14.5 x 10 and would be ridiculously awesome for the money for a 180. I own the 5000 on a 225 and it is poo foaming awesome. http://www.aquacave.com/reef-octopus...mmer-2998.html __________________ No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness ~ Aristotle If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? ~ Albert Einstein I'm just as bent as ever. Hellishly so ~ Captain Jack Sparrow Current Tank Info: Systems and goodies by Lee-Mar / Coralvue / Neptune Systems / Jager / Spectrapure / Cree / Meanwell + more!

10/13/2011, 01:40 PM	#5
gcarroll Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 9,666	The MF-201 has a 9" x 9" footprint which will fit in the smallest of sump chambers. __________________ Greg Carroll I will be at REEF-A-PALOOZA! SPS = Stability Promotes Success Be wary of advice coming from those who will not show you the fruits of their success! Current Tank Info: building: 250g AGE Euro tank, Abyzz A200, Vertex Supra-G filtration, Ecotech Radion Pro LEDs, ...

10/13/2011, 02:03 PM	#6
Garage1217 GET OFF MY LAWN Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Globally Posts: 5,863	We should ask the OP, what is the space you have available? If he can manage it, I would go with an external pump vs. internal but no idea what he has to work with. __________________ No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness ~ Aristotle If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? ~ Albert Einstein I'm just as bent as ever. Hellishly so ~ Captain Jack Sparrow Current Tank Info: Systems and goodies by Lee-Mar / Coralvue / Neptune Systems / Jager / Spectrapure / Cree / Meanwell + more!

10/13/2011, 11:36 AM	#2
drunkfish3 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Farmingdale NY Posts: 194	for the same money i would recommend a SRO skimmer a sro2000 or xp2000 or if space is a issue a xp2000ss would all be good fits.

10/13/2011, 03:36 PM	#7
layer3switchguy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 843	Thanks guys, internal wouold be ideal... I'm leaning toward the Warner Marine skimmer, as I really like the design, and the way the output comes out of the bottom. Now I'm just not sure if the MF-201 would be overkill for my system, and cause issues... __________________ 120g Oceanic Tech (48x24x24) 90lbs of Live Rock ATB Small Cone ATI 8 Bulb Powermodule (T5) 2 Vortech MP40W Prodibio Profilux P3ex Controlled Current Tank Info: 120g Oceanic Tech

10/13/2011, 05:09 PM	#8
voyagerx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 12	I have the MF 161 and am loving it so far. It is well built, after 1.5 weeks is working nicely, and I have received exceptional support from Warner Marine based in the US.

10/13/2011, 05:46 PM	#9
gcarroll Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 9,666	You cannot overskim an aquarium. A big skimmer gives you more leeway to fead heavily which be be more beneficial to your reef tank than minimizing feeding to prevent pollution. This is my opinion, but if you don'tbeleive my theory, start looking at the best tanks in the world. Most all have skimmers that are rated for much more than the tank they are running on. Not a debate but fact. __________________ Greg Carroll I will be at REEF-A-PALOOZA! SPS = Stability Promotes Success Be wary of advice coming from those who will not show you the fruits of their success! Current Tank Info: building: 250g AGE Euro tank, Abyzz A200, Vertex Supra-G filtration, Ecotech Radion Pro LEDs, ...

10/13/2011, 07:07 PM	#11
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	I love my MF-251 cone skimmer. It is skimming big time. This is my 2nd Warner Marine skimmer and I have no complaints at all! __________________ Daniel NJRC X Vice President Nj Reefers Club Current Tank Info: 220 Gallon Heavily stock tank Reef and Fish. 100 gallon sump, ATI Power cone IS Protein skimmer, Warner Warine MR100. 4 AI Hydra 52 HD LEDS running Warner Marine EcoBAK bio pellets,Warner Marine additives

10/13/2011, 08:21 PM	#12
layer3switchguy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 843	Thanks, anyplace other than DR Mac to order these from? I love Dr Mac, but the website kept blowing up on me when I went to purchase. __________________ 120g Oceanic Tech (48x24x24) 90lbs of Live Rock ATB Small Cone ATI 8 Bulb Powermodule (T5) 2 Vortech MP40W Prodibio Profilux P3ex Controlled Current Tank Info: 120g Oceanic Tech

10/13/2011, 10:55 PM	#14
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	2 Sicce 1000s at 40w total is awesome efficiency.

10/14/2011, 09:42 AM	#17
layer3switchguy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 843	Guys, Is the MF251 (Cone) worth the additional dollars over the 250? I do see the dual pumps on the 251. I know overkill is not a bad thing, but that model is rated 2x over my tank volume. I'm not afraid of spending more, as I want to buy once, and never again! __________________ 120g Oceanic Tech (48x24x24) 90lbs of Live Rock ATB Small Cone ATI 8 Bulb Powermodule (T5) 2 Vortech MP40W Prodibio Profilux P3ex Controlled Current Tank Info: 120g Oceanic Tech

10/14/2011, 09:44 AM	#18
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	Has Jon updated his website yet? __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

10/14/2011, 03:00 PM	#20
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	By the way my two Eden 5000 pumps are only pulling 35 watts total. __________________ Daniel NJRC X Vice President Nj Reefers Club Current Tank Info: 220 Gallon Heavily stock tank Reef and Fish. 100 gallon sump, ATI Power cone IS Protein skimmer, Warner Warine MR100. 4 AI Hydra 52 HD LEDS running Warner Marine EcoBAK bio pellets,Warner Marine additives

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