Help Chalices are Melting Away. - Page 9

roktsintst · 11/30/2008, 06:08 PM

IS MINE TO OLD?

Underwaterparadise · 11/30/2008, 06:15 PM

The exp date should be on the pkg. Other then that it's hard to say. I bought my last ones in 06 and they expire in 08

roktsintst · 11/30/2008, 06:43 PM

ok gREAT. i just checked and it expires in feb 09!
i'll chop up about 1/10th of the pill in the morning and disolve it in some tank water. Then add it to the tank after i take out hte carbon (no skimmer)
Then a 50% water change at 9pm and add carbon
????
Does this sound good?

Underwaterparadise · 11/30/2008, 06:44 PM

It's been a while since I used it. Do a search on yahoo for red bugs or acro red bugs and you should get the link to the directions.

SaraB · 11/30/2008, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOSE CASAS
Here you go http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopi...=439155#439155

Here's the link to the protocol for Interceptor.

Znut Reefer · 11/30/2008, 10:33 PM

Just curious here. Is anyone using the Randy's 2 part on their tanks?

Reason I ask is because when I was using it, I had some acan's just polyp out. All water parameter's read fine. Once I stopped adding the 2nd part (cal) it stopped.

roktsintst · 11/30/2008, 10:41 PM

Thanks Sara i got it. The dosage calls for 6 hours.

Fonda i have a calcium reactor and don't dose 2 part...

Znut Reefer · 11/30/2008, 10:53 PM

Ryan,

Ok lets see what the others say. Maybe has nothing to do with it.

SaraB · 12/01/2008, 09:15 AM

No 2-part here either.

Also, just an update on my corals. After the Interceptor treatments, my recession stopped and has not continued.

roktsintst · 12/01/2008, 12:52 PM

hey sara, are your corals looking better or has the recession just stopped?

roktsintst · 12/01/2008, 12:52 PM

hey sara, are your corals looking better or has the recession just stopped?

I just started an interceptor treatment in my lps nano. i really hope it works because i am getting really tired of all my lps dieing!!!

SaraB · 12/01/2008, 01:07 PM

The recession stopped and the corals are looking much happier!

roktsintst · 12/01/2008, 01:56 PM

Great!

I Really hope this is my result. How long after treating w/ interceptor did you notice a change in the corals? 1 day, 1 week?

SaraB · 12/01/2008, 02:25 PM

I treated 3 times. The recession slowed after the first treatment and stopped after the 2nd. The 3rd treatment was done just for good measure. I was more concerned about the recession than the rest looking "happy", so I can't answer that part.

roktsintst · 12/01/2008, 05:16 PM

Well 4 hours into it, things are already puffing up!!!

We Will See in the coming days...

Ian · 12/01/2008, 06:11 PM

Good to hear Ryan! I really hope all that nice stuff you have pulls through...

Sorry I never got in touch with you over the tele...

roktsintst · 12/01/2008, 08:18 PM

No Big deal Ian. That thing i wanted to do didn't work anyway.

Im gonna leave the Interceptor in for a total of 8 hours but things are looking MUCH better so far. Only time will tell however.
I plan on doing another interceptor treatment in another week...

salt newbie01 · 12/02/2008, 07:58 AM

So glad to see you all having results with the interceptor! I am also having recession on my acans and micros and blastos as well. My chalice pieces seem unaffected. I got very slack about my water changes and my alk bottomed out, but even after getting my levels right again I still had the recession. It sure seems like most of the people with this issue have heavy amounts of LPS and aussie corals.

I will be dosing interceptor this weekend, maybe sooner if I can get before friday!

Thank goodness for RC and all the great members!!!

natan · 12/03/2008, 08:08 AM

>>Just curious here. Is anyone using the Randy's 2 part on their tanks?

Reason I ask is because when I was using it, I had some acan's just polyp out. All water parameter's read fine. Once I stopped adding the 2nd part (cal) it stopped.<<

Of cause adding Ca reduces Alk, which is a problem. You probably had high Ca to start with.

victor escobar · 12/03/2008, 08:59 AM

the same is happening in Europe, i'm making the difference because now may traders are keeping corals in the country for some days and then sell the corals so it could perfectly happen that a pest could be established in the quarentine tanks (it was a theory with catalaphyllia, you remember?).

In any case, I have lost a blasto an oxypora, and echino and..... a red fungia. the question is when I've lost them and a lost all but the fungia one year ago very quickly. The fungia started to recede a little bit by then, especially the under side, so I dipped the fungia in a solution with iodine and then the recesion stopped.

Last week the recesion started again (it coincides with a drop in temperature, this winter in Madrid is very cold -7 ÂºC in the morning and I forgot to connect one night the heater after clenaing up the tank).

Yesterday I saw the black 1.5- 2.5 mm black critters you are describing in the thread. In my notes from a year ago a have also dicovered the same but I didn't give it importance by that time.

What I want to add to the threat is that it could happen that the bugs you decribe could be living latent in small numbers feeding on other corals waiting for the opportunity to feed on the more tasty ones when you add them to the tank.

If it is the case, once there is an deadly episode then without treatment no case to be sure that it couldn't happen again.

Sorry for my English

HOC · 12/12/2008, 10:37 AM

Several of my Chalice frags started to recede. I was thinking it was because of stopping the use of Zeovit until I read this. I also just added a colony of Chalice from Australia. I dosed Interceptor today and will report back with results.

Megabite · 12/12/2008, 11:23 AM

I've had great results just dipping affected chalices and Acans separately with Interceptor for a couple of hours each. I haven't been brave enough to treat the entire tank.

HOC · 12/12/2008, 01:06 PM

Haven't needed to use it in a diplay for a few years. I don't think I've ever had a coral react badly to the treatment. They actually seem to like it. Crabs on the other hand that's a different story. I used it in systems that ran for years afterward too so I didn't notice any long term problems either.

chrissreef · 12/16/2008, 11:38 AM

2 of my 6 SCOLYMIA australis appear to have somethign similar, they're barely taking food. I lost 2 other scoly's.

reading thread now, on page 3... hope an answer is found in the following pages.

amore169 · 01/10/2009, 01:37 AM

Bump.

11/30/2008, 06:08 PM	#201
roktsintst Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cental Cali Posts: 2,384	IS MINE TO OLD? __________________ --- Ryan --- Current Tank Info: 300 AGE Starfire SPS Reef75g frag tank lit w/ T5's Deltec 902ACIII4 400 Radium's4-160 vho'sGEO 818 CA RXReefTek Kalk RXDart Return on manifold to a wavy sea57 watt uvHammerHead w/ OceansMotion

11/30/2008, 06:15 PM	#202
Underwaterparadise Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northern Cali Posts: 2,624	The exp date should be on the pkg. Other then that it's hard to say. I bought my last ones in 06 and they expire in 08 __________________ Who needs fish in a Fish tank when you have corals! Current Tank Info: Taking a Vacation

11/30/2008, 06:43 PM	#203
roktsintst Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cental Cali Posts: 2,384	ok gREAT. i just checked and it expires in feb 09! i'll chop up about 1/10th of the pill in the morning and disolve it in some tank water. Then add it to the tank after i take out hte carbon (no skimmer) Then a 50% water change at 9pm and add carbon ???? Does this sound good? __________________ --- Ryan --- Current Tank Info: 300 AGE Starfire SPS Reef75g frag tank lit w/ T5's Deltec 902ACIII4 400 Radium's4-160 vho'sGEO 818 CA RXReefTek Kalk RXDart Return on manifold to a wavy sea57 watt uvHammerHead w/ OceansMotion

11/30/2008, 06:44 PM	#204
Underwaterparadise Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northern Cali Posts: 2,624	It's been a while since I used it. Do a search on yahoo for red bugs or acro red bugs and you should get the link to the directions. __________________ Who needs fish in a Fish tank when you have corals! Current Tank Info: Taking a Vacation

11/30/2008, 10:41 PM	#207
roktsintst Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cental Cali Posts: 2,384	Thanks Sara i got it. The dosage calls for 6 hours. Fonda i have a calcium reactor and don't dose 2 part... __________________ --- Ryan --- Current Tank Info: 300 AGE Starfire SPS Reef75g frag tank lit w/ T5's Deltec 902ACIII4 400 Radium's4-160 vho'sGEO 818 CA RXReefTek Kalk RXDart Return on manifold to a wavy sea57 watt uvHammerHead w/ OceansMotion

11/30/2008, 10:33 PM	#206
Znut Reefer Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Claxton, Ga Posts: 3,396	Just curious here. Is anyone using the Randy's 2 part on their tanks? Reason I ask is because when I was using it, I had some acan's just polyp out. All water parameter's read fine. Once I stopped adding the 2nd part (cal) it stopped.

11/30/2008, 10:53 PM	#208
Znut Reefer Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Claxton, Ga Posts: 3,396	Ryan, Ok lets see what the others say. Maybe has nothing to do with it.

12/01/2008, 09:15 AM	#209
SaraB Coral Killer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lemont, IL Posts: 4,461	No 2-part here either. Also, just an update on my corals. After the Interceptor treatments, my recession stopped and has not continued. __________________ Sara

12/01/2008, 12:52 PM	#210
roktsintst Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cental Cali Posts: 2,384	hey sara, are your corals looking better or has the recession just stopped? __________________ --- Ryan --- Current Tank Info: 300 AGE Starfire SPS Reef75g frag tank lit w/ T5's Deltec 902ACIII4 400 Radium's4-160 vho'sGEO 818 CA RXReefTek Kalk RXDart Return on manifold to a wavy sea57 watt uvHammerHead w/ OceansMotion

12/01/2008, 12:52 PM	#211
roktsintst Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cental Cali Posts: 2,384	hey sara, are your corals looking better or has the recession just stopped? I just started an interceptor treatment in my lps nano. i really hope it works because i am getting really tired of all my lps dieing!!! __________________ --- Ryan --- Current Tank Info: 300 AGE Starfire SPS Reef75g frag tank lit w/ T5's Deltec 902ACIII4 400 Radium's4-160 vho'sGEO 818 CA RXReefTek Kalk RXDart Return on manifold to a wavy sea57 watt uvHammerHead w/ OceansMotion

12/01/2008, 01:07 PM	#212
SaraB Coral Killer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lemont, IL Posts: 4,461	The recession stopped and the corals are looking much happier! __________________ Sara

12/01/2008, 01:56 PM	#213
roktsintst Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cental Cali Posts: 2,384	Great! I Really hope this is my result. How long after treating w/ interceptor did you notice a change in the corals? 1 day, 1 week? __________________ --- Ryan --- Current Tank Info: 300 AGE Starfire SPS Reef75g frag tank lit w/ T5's Deltec 902ACIII4 400 Radium's4-160 vho'sGEO 818 CA RXReefTek Kalk RXDart Return on manifold to a wavy sea57 watt uvHammerHead w/ OceansMotion

12/01/2008, 02:25 PM	#214
SaraB Coral Killer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lemont, IL Posts: 4,461	I treated 3 times. The recession slowed after the first treatment and stopped after the 2nd. The 3rd treatment was done just for good measure. I was more concerned about the recession than the rest looking "happy", so I can't answer that part. __________________ Sara

12/01/2008, 05:16 PM	#215
roktsintst Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cental Cali Posts: 2,384	Well 4 hours into it, things are already puffing up!!! We Will See in the coming days... __________________ --- Ryan --- Current Tank Info: 300 AGE Starfire SPS Reef75g frag tank lit w/ T5's Deltec 902ACIII4 400 Radium's4-160 vho'sGEO 818 CA RXReefTek Kalk RXDart Return on manifold to a wavy sea57 watt uvHammerHead w/ OceansMotion

12/01/2008, 06:11 PM	#216
Ian I <3 Corals! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca Posts: 4,555	Good to hear Ryan! I really hope all that nice stuff you have pulls through... Sorry I never got in touch with you over the tele...

12/01/2008, 08:18 PM	#217
roktsintst Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cental Cali Posts: 2,384	No Big deal Ian. That thing i wanted to do didn't work anyway. Im gonna leave the Interceptor in for a total of 8 hours but things are looking MUCH better so far. Only time will tell however. I plan on doing another interceptor treatment in another week... __________________ --- Ryan --- Current Tank Info: 300 AGE Starfire SPS Reef75g frag tank lit w/ T5's Deltec 902ACIII4 400 Radium's4-160 vho'sGEO 818 CA RXReefTek Kalk RXDart Return on manifold to a wavy sea57 watt uvHammerHead w/ OceansMotion

12/02/2008, 07:58 AM	#218
salt newbie01 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,TN Posts: 637	So glad to see you all having results with the interceptor! I am also having recession on my acans and micros and blastos as well. My chalice pieces seem unaffected. I got very slack about my water changes and my alk bottomed out, but even after getting my levels right again I still had the recession. It sure seems like most of the people with this issue have heavy amounts of LPS and aussie corals. I will be dosing interceptor this weekend, maybe sooner if I can get before friday! Thank goodness for RC and all the great members!!! __________________ I love my family but I hate family reunions. Family reunions are that time when you come face to face with your family tree and realize some branches need to be cut off. Current Tank Info: 58 on the way out...120RR cycling as I type!!

12/03/2008, 08:08 AM	#219
natan Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 356	>>Just curious here. Is anyone using the Randy's 2 part on their tanks? Reason I ask is because when I was using it, I had some acan's just polyp out. All water parameter's read fine. Once I stopped adding the 2nd part (cal) it stopped.<< Of cause adding Ca reduces Alk, which is a problem. You probably had high Ca to start with. __________________ "Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm." Sir Winston Churchill

12/03/2008, 08:59 AM	#220
victor escobar Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: madrid - Spain Posts: 171	the same is happening in Europe, i'm making the difference because now may traders are keeping corals in the country for some days and then sell the corals so it could perfectly happen that a pest could be established in the quarentine tanks (it was a theory with catalaphyllia, you remember?). In any case, I have lost a blasto an oxypora, and echino and..... a red fungia. the question is when I've lost them and a lost all but the fungia one year ago very quickly. The fungia started to recede a little bit by then, especially the under side, so I dipped the fungia in a solution with iodine and then the recesion stopped. Last week the recesion started again (it coincides with a drop in temperature, this winter in Madrid is very cold -7 ÂºC in the morning and I forgot to connect one night the heater after clenaing up the tank). Yesterday I saw the black 1.5- 2.5 mm black critters you are describing in the thread. In my notes from a year ago a have also dicovered the same but I didn't give it importance by that time. What I want to add to the threat is that it could happen that the bugs you decribe could be living latent in small numbers feeding on other corals waiting for the opportunity to feed on the more tasty ones when you add them to the tank. If it is the case, once there is an deadly episode then without treatment no case to be sure that it couldn't happen again. Sorry for my English

12/12/2008, 10:37 AM	#221
HOC Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Earlham, Iowa Posts: 1,131	Several of my Chalice frags started to recede. I was thinking it was because of stopping the use of Zeovit until I read this. I also just added a colony of Chalice from Australia. I dosed Interceptor today and will report back with results. __________________ Don't get caught up in what you think you know. Current Tank Info: Elos 160

12/12/2008, 11:23 AM	#222
Megabite Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 702	I've had great results just dipping affected chalices and Acans separately with Interceptor for a couple of hours each. I haven't been brave enough to treat the entire tank.

12/12/2008, 01:06 PM	#223
HOC Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Earlham, Iowa Posts: 1,131	Haven't needed to use it in a diplay for a few years. I don't think I've ever had a coral react badly to the treatment. They actually seem to like it. Crabs on the other hand that's a different story. I used it in systems that ran for years afterward too so I didn't notice any long term problems either. __________________ Don't get caught up in what you think you know. Current Tank Info: Elos 160

12/16/2008, 11:38 AM	#224
chrissreef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,252	2 of my 6 SCOLYMIA australis appear to have somethign similar, they're barely taking food. I lost 2 other scoly's. reading thread now, on page 3... hope an answer is found in the following pages. __________________ One's standard of living is determined by the size of their reef Learn and you continue to adapt, stop learning and you become obsolete We live with each other, not for ourselves, protect our planet Current Tank Info: 300g Starfire/Starboard A.G.E. mixed reef Last edited by chrissreef; 12/16/2008 at 11:54 AM.

01/10/2009, 01:37 AM	#225
amore169 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,250	Bump. __________________ Arnie. Current Tank Info: 400 Gallon Starphire Rimless. 8 A360WE Kessils with controller. Sfiligoi Infinity DDE 6X250 light fixture. Bubble King Internal 300 Deluxe. 215 Gallon Oceanic Starphire Ultimate FOWRL. 34 Gallon Solana.