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11/12/2008, 02:34 PM | #1 |
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Learn from my mistake (A lesson learned about cheap Hydrometers)
Ok, so I have had my tank up and running a couple of months now and added a pair of Clowns about a week ago. Tank cycled perfectly, all the water parameters were spot on 1.026 sg, 0 Am., 0 Nitrites, 0 Nitrates, pH 8.1-8.2 (KH was a little low, 8, but I was having no issues with pH). So I've watched my Clowns pretty closely since I added them and noticed that one (the smaller of the 2) was not eating, so I started target feeding him with a syringe. When I saw him just laying on the bottom this morning I decided to take half a day from work and carry him to the lfs for a look over. Keep in mind that I tested every parameter this morning before work. When I got there, they did a water test and everything matched up with what I had except the sg.
1.032!!! All I can say is that it was my stupidity that caused it. I have read SOOO many times to have the plastic pieces of junk calibrated with a known accurate refractometer, but I just always took it for granted that they would be REASONALBLY within spec. Anyhow, I can't stress enough to anyone else using one of these "Inaccurate Ocean" Hydrometers or any similar design, for your fishes sake. PLEASE have it checked out. ........back to my always fun emergency water change and cross your finger that I haven't killed my Clown.......... |
11/12/2008, 03:37 PM | #2 |
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With the amount of money people spend on this hobby, I am suprised so many people do not spend $40 to get a refractometer.
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11/12/2008, 03:47 PM | #3 |
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or even on a good grade glass float. Sorry about the problem Reticle but don't give up. Just do water changes with slightly less salinity until you're back in range.
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11/12/2008, 03:55 PM | #4 |
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I always rinse my hydrometer with freshwater to keep salt from accumulating on the needle.This will cause your readings to be way off.(I know I have done it).I have calibrated it to my refractometer.They are pretty close. hth
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11/12/2008, 04:01 PM | #5 |
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I use a hydrometer I don't really have a problem with mine, but there is a touch of a science to using them correctly. That is my experience with them.
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11/12/2008, 04:15 PM | #6 |
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if you clean them with freshwater after every use , i dont see a problem with it....
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11/12/2008, 05:42 PM | #7 |
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greggnyce, not sure where you can find one for $40.... Around here there at $80.
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11/12/2008, 05:58 PM | #8 |
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UPS guy brought mine today!
They are currently on sale a marinedepot.com: $39.95 USD
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_Aquari...clearance.html Bottom row, middle column. When I get home I will find out how accurate my cheap instant ocean hydrometer really was.
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11/12/2008, 06:05 PM | #9 |
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Ofcourse! A sale happens wwhen I'm strapped for cash!!!!! Love the way life works sometimes. ....
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11/12/2008, 07:05 PM | #10 |
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Thanks for the tip Roger. I just ordered one.
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11/12/2008, 07:11 PM | #11 |
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Glad I could help!
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11/12/2008, 07:15 PM | #12 |
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Get some fluids into that clown as quick as you can. You can drop that salinity into normal range quicky without any ill effect on the fish. It will help them. Their internal salinity is only about 1.008 so it take work to maintain it in normal seawter, It is probably having trouble staying hydrated,trying to gulp water and process out lots of salt. Float hydrometers are too unpredictable for me.
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11/12/2008, 07:35 PM | #13 |
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Ok, first off. The Hydrometer was THOROUGHLY risned after EVERY measuerment. If both fish had seemed stressed I would have figured this out a lot sooner, but since the larger of the two is doing great, I thought the small one was just having trouble adjusting to the new tank. I know I should have had it checked, but damn, a Hydrometer that is 6 points out of whack just seems a bit much to me. Thank god it wasn't a gunpowder scale.
I have brought the sg down to 1.023 and he is still very lethargic but he is alive, so that is a plus I suppose. He will occasionally get up and swim around a bit but never strays far from his corner. I put a syringe with some Mysis shrimp in front of him a little whil ago just to see if he would eat and he absolutely devoured what was in the tube. I am hoping that is a good sign as well. I guess only time will tell. |
11/12/2008, 08:06 PM | #14 |
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I keep mine clean with vinegar and use two to double check. I hear what you guys are saying about the cost of coral, lights etc a refractometer should be a given. But I have used one borrowed from the LFS and I got several reading that were different in the course of a few hours I asked him about that and he said it needed to be recalibrated. So I don’t know which is the lesser of the two evils. I know that the temp of your water has alot to do with the reading you get, were you adjusting for that?
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11/12/2008, 08:12 PM | #15 |
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I also meant to add, even though I know the margain of error for mine now, a refractometer has been ordered.
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11/12/2008, 08:19 PM | #16 |
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ok looking at the marinedepot add i think it is time to buy.. thanks
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11/12/2008, 08:25 PM | #17 |
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I got mine from the bay of e for $25 with a pH tester as well. Works as well as the higher end one they use at my LFS.
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11/12/2008, 08:35 PM | #18 |
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Do you remeember who the seller was on ebay?
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11/12/2008, 08:51 PM | #19 |
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No, I don't. Sorry. I do remember that it came from Hong Kong though. I got it right around this time last year.
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11/12/2008, 08:53 PM | #20 |
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I just checked and they still have them listed, but without the pH tester. Just put Salinity Refractometer in the search window and a ton will pop up.
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11/12/2008, 08:54 PM | #21 |
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Watch the clownfish for signs of disease. I believe you said it was a new fish. There may be a different reason for the lethargy.
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PS is it possible the other amphiprion is bullying it. Are they the same species? Two females, perhaps?
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11/12/2008, 09:06 PM | #23 |
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The other one doesn't seem to be bullying at all. They actually seem quite friendly to each other and were bought as a pair. The only visible signs the small one has are red marks around the gills that the lfs says are from the high salinity.
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11/12/2008, 09:21 PM | #24 |
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My LFS has them for $40 every day, if anyone wants one I would not mid picking up a few and mailing them out.
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11/12/2008, 09:34 PM | #25 |
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Be carfull of the refractometers on Ebay. NOT ALL....but there are some being sold as salinity refractometers when they are really made for other things like anti-freeze. You might get one for $25.00 but if its not for salinity, its worthless.
Trust your LFS or a good Online store. You can get a good Sybon refractometer from Aquacave for $49.95 www.aquacave.com ask for Albert heres the direct link to the Sybon refractometer http://www.aquacave.com/salinity-ref...ybon-1901.html
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