Who buys their saltwater? - Page 2

nereefpat · 11/08/2017, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

How about the fact that my friend sold it to me with 3 month old RO membranes and a spare motor and pump head for $150 and some help selling off his other equipment and livestock as he had to get out of the hobby. That was 8 years ago and I just replaced the RO membranes. I still have my old RO/DI system hanging on the wall above the Cirque system, but it never gets used!

I'll give you $200.

nereefpat · 11/08/2017, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JTL

I drilled out the pinhole made by the saddle valve to 1/4" since the rest of the tubing is
1/4". It did not change the water pressure, still at a little over 40 psi.

Hmm. Do you no what the TDS of your feed water is? How about after the RO?

JTL · 11/08/2017, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nereefpat

hmm. Do you no what the tds of your feed water is? How about after the ro?

55

nereefpat · 11/08/2017, 09:28 AM

55 before or after the RO? If that's after, no wonder you are burning through DI resin.

Jeramirez85 · 11/08/2017, 10:38 AM

Used to buy as well. Tired of carrying buckets RODI best thing i got and just do it myself

JTL · 11/08/2017, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nereefpat

55 before or after the RO? If that's after, no wonder you are burning through DI resin.

Before

nereefpat · 11/08/2017, 01:07 PM

And after the RO, but before the DI?

JTL · 11/08/2017, 01:30 PM

I misspoke. It is 42 after the membrane and zero after the DI. My incoming tap water is 200 so the membrane is removing only 160ppm. It is pretty new and has only processed about 500 gallons of water so maybe the psi is too low to push the water through the membrane.

nereefpat · 11/09/2017, 09:17 AM

Something is going on with the RO there. 80% rejection isn't near good enough. Obviously you know that.

Might be worth a call to that Russ guy at Buckeye Hydro.

JTL · 11/09/2017, 09:50 AM

Not very efficient for sure. I has to either be the membrane or the pressure. I took out the membrane and reinstalled it thinking it was not seated but it appeared to be fine. I double checked my line going into the body and the two lines coming out. Center one is filtered water and the one on the side is waste. At least that is my understanding.

mako61 · 11/09/2017, 10:41 AM

one thing I noticed with my unit is the TDS after the membrane gets high 40+ if I leave the water turn on but my float switch stops the actual output. IF I let my holding tank get empty then turn on the water to the unit the TDS after the membrane will start off high and gradually fall to <10. I always try and only run the unit once a week but sometime I forget to turn off water to it.

JTL · 11/09/2017, 10:51 AM

I don't have a float switch or an aso so I manually turn off the water.

homer1475 · 11/09/2017, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mako61

one thing I noticed with my unit is the TDS after the membrane gets high 40+ if I leave the water turn on but my float switch stops the actual output. IF I let my holding tank get empty then turn on the water to the unit the TDS after the membrane will start off high and gradually fall to <10. I always try and only run the unit once a week but sometime I forget to turn off water to it.

That's called TDS creep and is a known problem. This is why we install flush valves before the DI stage. This way you don't send that high TDS water into the DI which will deplete your DI very fast.

604hutchins · 11/09/2017, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JTL

How much do you pay?

I only have a 55 can I use this? I get 5 gal jugs at Walmart the best place I found to get the best water,those jugs get really heavy for me.

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Uncle99 · 11/10/2017, 01:09 PM

All stores include a 100% to 300% mark up.
Since I buy everything on line except livestock.....my costs to run are 1/3 of retail.
And they deliver right to my door. Spend 50 bucks and ships for free.
Retail will be a thing of the past.

604hutchins · 11/10/2017, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 604hutchins

I only have a 55 can I use this? I get 5 gal jugs at Walmart the best place I found to get the best water,those jugs get really heavy for me.

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Who do I get to deliver it, What Company ?

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Jeramirez85 · 11/11/2017, 02:42 AM

Paid between $2-$3 a gallon. Now have RODI and do my own. No more going to lfs and area buckets plus RODI paid for itself in no time

604hutchins · 11/11/2017, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ReefMaster48

I used to pay 12-13 bucks for 5 gallons of premixed saltwater. I bought a RO a few months back and its much much easier! Mix my own now. Saves the trip to the store, is cheaper, and I get clear RO water for ATO. No more buying distilled at the store! Trust me, just in ATO water, it pays for itself quick!

I'm in Ohio can I get it here?

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604hutchins · 11/11/2017, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ReefMaster48

I used to pay 12-13 bucks for 5 gallons of premixed saltwater. I bought a RO a few months back and its much much easier! Mix my own now. Saves the trip to the store, is cheaper, and I get clear RO water for ATO. No more buying distilled at the store! Trust me, just in ATO water, it pays for itself quick!

I'm getting Red Sea Salt Now from Marine Supply

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604hutchins · 11/11/2017, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nereefpat

12 bucks for 5 gallons ($2.40 / gallon) seems way too high.

$1 per gallons is more like it. Seems like I've seen 1-1.25 per gallon, not that I ever bought it.

I'm in Ohio Can I get It Shipped here for the Price your paying? I'm Using Red Sea Now and Mixing My Own.And Lugging 5gal.Jugs of Ionized Water from Walmart at 6.00 Usually Getting 6 Jugs at a Time for my 55gal.Tank and My 20 gal.

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Lionfish1965 · 11/14/2017, 01:25 PM

I bought Sea Water from the Steinhart Aquarium, in San Francisco, it was cheap and keep my Aquarium very healthy.

604hutchins · 11/14/2017, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lionfish1965

I bought Sea Water from the Steinhart Aquarium, in San Francisco, it was cheap and keep my Aquarium very healthy.

I put in Steihart Aquarium and couldn't find where to order it at

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Buckeye Hydro · 11/15/2017, 09:45 AM

We're here if anyone needs help!

Russ

11/08/2017, 09:28 AM	#29
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	55 before or after the RO? If that's after, no wonder you are burning through DI resin. __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

11/08/2017, 01:07 PM	#32
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	And after the RO, but before the DI? __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

11/08/2017, 01:30 PM	#33
JTL Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Venice Island, FL Posts: 2,532	I misspoke. It is 42 after the membrane and zero after the DI. My incoming tap water is 200 so the membrane is removing only 160ppm. It is pretty new and has only processed about 500 gallons of water so maybe the psi is too low to push the water through the membrane. __________________ John 100 gallon DT and 50 gallon sump with refugium. Reefbreeders Photon V2+. Last edited by JTL; 11/08/2017 at 02:21 PM.

11/09/2017, 09:17 AM	#34
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	Something is going on with the RO there. 80% rejection isn't near good enough. Obviously you know that. Might be worth a call to that Russ guy at Buckeye Hydro. __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

11/09/2017, 09:50 AM	#35
JTL Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Venice Island, FL Posts: 2,532	Not very efficient for sure. I has to either be the membrane or the pressure. I took out the membrane and reinstalled it thinking it was not seated but it appeared to be fine. I double checked my line going into the body and the two lines coming out. Center one is filtered water and the one on the side is waste. At least that is my understanding. __________________ John 100 gallon DT and 50 gallon sump with refugium. Reefbreeders Photon V2+.

11/08/2017, 10:38 AM	#30
Jeramirez85 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 50	Used to buy as well. Tired of carrying buckets RODI best thing i got and just do it myself

11/09/2017, 10:41 AM	#36
mako61 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 359	one thing I noticed with my unit is the TDS after the membrane gets high 40+ if I leave the water turn on but my float switch stops the actual output. IF I let my holding tank get empty then turn on the water to the unit the TDS after the membrane will start off high and gradually fall to <10. I always try and only run the unit once a week but sometime I forget to turn off water to it. __________________ Thanks, Mako Current Tank Info: Returning Reefer - Red Sea 525XL, Mitras LX7s, Apex, check homepage for vids of tank

11/09/2017, 10:51 AM	#37
JTL Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Venice Island, FL Posts: 2,532	I don't have a float switch or an aso so I manually turn off the water. __________________ John 100 gallon DT and 50 gallon sump with refugium. Reefbreeders Photon V2+.

11/10/2017, 01:09 PM	#40
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	All stores include a 100% to 300% mark up. Since I buy everything on line except livestock.....my costs to run are 1/3 of retail. And they deliver right to my door. Spend 50 bucks and ships for free. Retail will be a thing of the past.

11/11/2017, 02:42 AM	#42
Jeramirez85 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 50	Paid between $2-$3 a gallon. Now have RODI and do my own. No more going to lfs and area buckets plus RODI paid for itself in no time

11/14/2017, 01:25 PM	#46
Lionfish1965 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 13	I bought Sea Water from the Steinhart Aquarium, in San Francisco, it was cheap and keep my Aquarium very healthy.

11/15/2017, 09:45 AM	#48
Buckeye Hydro .Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,857	We're here if anyone needs help! Russ