120g SPS -a-Palooza

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Originally Posted by Piper27

Can you share what happened to make you stay away from maricultured pieces? I have heard a few people say they haven't had luck with them but they were mostly not experienced and did not know how to acclimate and keep them. But you seem to have a knack for everything and do great it seems with wilds. So what happened with maricultured stuff that made you stop? Also what percent of the wilds that you get, make it through to grow in your tank?

My experience with most maricultures they have just never seem to adapt to my system. Most I have gotten don't make it threw being dipped and RTN the first night. The rest seem to just never get established and slowly lose PE and color till they wither away. I'm not saying you can't have success with maricultures many of these crazy colored/named pieces from the big vendors were once maricultured colonies.

I'd say about 2/3 of the wild collected stuff makes it into the display. Have a few brown duds that refuse to color up.

Originally Posted by carlosmos

What do you do to obtain this differences in one month? Thanks


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Good quality water, stable parameters, strong light and a dash of luck.

Originally Posted by nemeth27

If the frag takes off in my tank you will have the first frag.


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Thanks Matt

[Piper27]

Yes it's true most of the named pieces that are new are from cultured acros. Where were you getting the maricultures from if I may? LFS, online vendor, other? I have been getting a lot of them and a very high number of them are keeping colors and some gaining better colors. I am very pleased with what the farmers are culturing out there. I have had maybe 1 out of 40 die after they go into my tank. Of course there were a few doa's from the long journey here but that's to be expected. Although there is not really a middle man for me, this could be why they are doing better than when I used to buy them. A lot of the LFS and online places I bought from did not have the proper tanks or practices to keep them in, they would stress out very easily and I had the same experience as you before.

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Originally Posted by Piper27

Yes it's true most of the named pieces that are new are from cultured acros. Where were you getting the maricultures from if I may? LFS, online vendor, other? I have been getting a lot of them and a very high number of them are keeping colors and some gaining better colors. I am very pleased with what the farmers are culturing out there. I have had maybe 1 out of 40 die after they go into my tank. Of course there were a few doa's from the long journey here but that's to be expected. Although there is not really a middle man for me, this could be why they are doing better than when I used to buy them. A lot of the LFS and online places I bought from did not have the proper tanks or practices to keep them in, they would stress out very easily and I had the same experience as you before.

Yea I was getting them from a few different LFS and from a larger vendor in the northeast.
If you wouldn't mind sharing your source can pm me the info

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Well the 2 part I have been dosing has getting a bit out of hand so finally set up a Ca reactor that I got in a trade with a local member tanks matt

It's a GEO 618 that I modified with a larger DC circulation pump to hopefully increase its capacity. Being feed from a small pump now but will eventually be feed off the manifold. The effluent is going directly into my cheato Fuge to scrub off any excess Co2 and promoted better cheato growth at least that's my theory.I am slowly bringing it online and decreasing the 2-part hoping to keep everything stable fingers crossed.

[biggles]

Looking good mate, i wish i needed a calcium reactor lol. That thing looks like a beast

Love seeing the improvements in your comparison pics

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Originally Posted by biggles

Looking good mate, i wish i needed a calcium reactor lol. That thing looks like a beast



Love seeing the improvements in your comparison pics

Thanks mate
Just took some more pics that will be posting shortly

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Couple of top downs



Even thou it's just green I do like it

Few small gems hidden in this one

This wild Tenius is just redonk. Sorry for the blurry pic have to get a better one.

And one of my favorite wild pearlberry

[watchguy123]

great colors on those acros. Just a beautiful rainbow of beautiful healthy corals.

[reefmutt]

Nice top downs!
Corals are looking really nice.
And nice ca reactor!
I'm sure the corals will love it.

[nemeth27]

Looks great! Amazing colors!


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Originally Posted by watchguy123

great colors on those acros. Just a beautiful rainbow of beautiful healthy corals.

Originally Posted by reefmutt

Nice top downs!
Corals are looking really nice.
And nice ca reactor!
I'm sure the corals will love it.

Originally Posted by nemeth27

Looks great! Amazing colors!


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Thanks guys

[markalot]

Just caught up, these latest pics are awesome.

Can you share your latest test results? I'm most interested in PO4, NO3, and KH.

My luck with maricultured is healthy, good PE, and brown brown brown. It starts to color up when everything else starts to go pale and if I raise Nitrates to 2 - 5 it browns back up again.

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Originally Posted by markalot

Just caught up, these latest pics are awesome.



Can you share your latest test results? I'm most interested in PO4, NO3, and KH.



My luck with maricultured is healthy, good PE, and brown brown brown. It starts to color up when everything else starts to go pale and if I raise Nitrates to 2 - 5 it browns back up again.

Thanks mark

Yea I'm done messing with maricultured stuff unless I can find a better source.

Here's the lastest test results just happened to do them all today all test done with Red Sea kits expect Strontium used salifert.

KH 7.5
Ca 430
Mg 1440
Po4 .05
No3 0-.25
K 410
Fe .05
Iodine .06
Sr 10

[codydemmel4]

very nice tank!! I need to get myself a calc reactor sooner or later

[reefmutt]

How often do you dose iron?
Or is it in an auto doser?
Just curious because the only time I get an actual reading for iron is a couple hours after dosing a bulk amount. Otherwise, it's always been 0
Forget, do you have an algea scrubber of some sort?

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Originally Posted by reefmutt

How often do you dose iron?
Or is it in an auto doser?
Just curious because the only time I get an actual reading for iron is a couple hours after dosing a bulk amount. Otherwise, it's always been 0
Forget, do you have an algea scrubber of some sort?

Dosing 25ml of Red Sea colors ABCD. Part C is iron. Looking for a better iron additive once I run out of the Red Sea stuff. When ever I test its always around 0-.05

Have a 65g Fuge with various macros and a big ball of cheato in a separate sump.

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Finally finished with rescaping the left side of the display removed a few colonies cut down some others and stuck in a bunch of branch rock. Still have to mount some frags but this is where I'm at for now.

Left side


Side shot


FTS


I'll try and get some top downs when I mount rest of the frags. Think I stressed the acros enough for 1 day.

[gdemos]

Originally Posted by Usernam Invalid

Finally finished with rescaping the left side of the display removed a few colonies cut down some others and stuck in a bunch of branch rock. Still have to mount some frags but this is where I'm at for now.

Left side


Side shot


FTS


I'll try and get some top downs when I mount rest of the frags. Think I stressed the acros enough for 1 day.

Solid tank. Sometimes that's the fun part. Slight but dramatic changes and reefscaping. Little bit of shock to acros builds character I say.


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[CButkos]

Looking good

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[markalot]

Colors look fantastic. Have I bugged you about PAR readings ... I'll go look back in the thread.

[markalot]

Originally Posted by Usernam Invalid

Got a hold of the clubs par meter and found some interesting results.

Main display lighting 8x54w ATI dimmable both channels at 100% hung 7" from the surface. All Giesemann bulbs about 3 months old.

Actinic blue
Actinic blue
Super actinic
Aqua blue azure
Super purple
Actinic blue
Aqua blue azure
Actinic blue

Par#'s
Just below the surface 475-500
At the sand bed 90-150
All the Acros are getting 200-300

Overall very even par which is expected with t5 but thought par would have been a bit higher on the Acros. On the other hand my rock work is a bit low most the corals are mounted 12" or more from the surface

Also took readings on the frag tank. Have 2 of the 165w black box LEDs
Lights are hung 10" off the water. Blue channel at 100" white/red/green channel at 30% par ranges from 50-200.

You already posted, so quoting it here. I am thinking I need to lower PAR a bit to stay sane. My acros are getting 300 - 500 and will pale if I don't feed regularly.

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Originally Posted by markalot

Colors look fantastic. Have I bugged you about PAR readings ... I'll go look back in the thread.

Originally Posted by markalot

You already posted, so quoting it here. I am thinking I need to lower PAR a bit to stay sane. My acros are getting 300 - 500 and will pale if I don't feed regularly.

Thanks for answering your own question mark
The acros in my system have the best coloration in the 250-300 par range. In one of the frag tanks I'm pushing 350-400 and colors system to fade out a bit but better growth.

Originally Posted by gdemos

Solid tank. Sometimes that's the fun part. Slight but dramatic changes and reefscaping. Little bit of shock to acros builds character I say.
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Lol thank you but think i may have stressed my ice fire echi a bit to much started to RTN this morning fraged a few pieces off hope to save it.

Originally Posted by CButkos

Looking good

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Thanks Chris

[gdemos]

Originally Posted by Usernam Invalid

Thanks for answering your own question mark
The acros in my system have the best coloration in the 250-300 par range. In one of the frag tanks I'm pushing 350-400 and colors system to fade out a bit but better growth.




Lol thank you but think i may have stressed my ice fire echi a bit to much started to RTN this morning fraged a few pieces off hope to save it.



Thanks Chris

Makes two of us that toasted an ice fire echinata this week I haven't had the best long term luck with this particular piece. Part of me thinks they like the shade


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Valida and pink lemonade




Finally started dosing iron with auto doser 4 doses over 24hr @ 3ml/dose. Fuge and cheato already responding nicely.

[codydemmel4]

Originally Posted by Usernam Invalid

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Very very nice shot, the corals are looking great!