Who else has A. thiellei??? - Page 2

fin_wing · 05/05/2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WDLV

Those are great shots. Given what I'm seeing I have to wonder if there's some A. perideraion in the blood line. I had spoken with a company that was conducting genetic tests (forgot the name) and they said that they have had a heck of a hard time nailing down the genetic markers for skunk clowns because there is a lot of inter-breeding with them that goes beyond what you see with leucokranos and thiellei.

That really is a one of a kind fish. Thanks for sharing!!!

BTW, is that a S. mertensii carpet???

Yes,it's a S. mertensii carpet.

hyperboy · 05/05/2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WDLV

That's A. leucokranos... and a pretty one at that.

Well, it came in as white cap. I figured if anyone knew, you knew best.

WDLV · 05/05/2010, 02:14 PM

Keep up on the squid and krill or it will turn brown like mine.

WDLV · 05/05/2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fin_wing

Yes,it's a S. mertensii carpet.

Looks great! Is that the same one from the first pic? If so, you'll have to share how you got it looking so healthy.

I wanted to add that I stared at your fish last night at some length and was doing some comparisons. I didn't want to say anything yesterday but I think your fish is not a thiellei. The first hint was the lack of a white marking at the tail base (caudal peduncle.)
I think that it is an A. perideraion x A. sandaracinos cross. That's even more rare than A. thiellei. It is to date the most beautiful skunk hybrid I've seen. Take good care of that beauty.

vaporize · 05/09/2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fin_wing

How about the two pics. She is really a shy girl and difficult to photo a lateral pic.

this is just a skunk, the appoll.... one.

WDLV · 05/09/2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vaporize

this is just a skunk, the appoll.... one.

hi Vap,
Not sure I follow you. Appoll??? This definately does not fit into any of the normal species descriptions in the skunk complex.
Given your trade, if you know where to get more like the one pictured, please let me know. I checked with Fedex a couple weeks ago and CAN can ship priority overnight to the US.

clowns101 · 05/09/2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vaporize

this is just a skunk, the appoll.... one.

Im pretty sure this is a hybrid.Even the rare morphs that come out of Fiji dont have this coloration.This fish has a much better apperince than "just a skunk".The body shape isnt even the same as "just a skunk".Nothing of this fish seems to me that it is "just a skunk".

natep206 · 05/09/2010, 11:56 AM

great thread. WDLV, I am interested to here your most definate opinion on which to species are the parents of A. Thiellei?
Thanks,
Nate

WDLV · 05/09/2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by natep206

great thread. WDLV, I am interested to here your most definate opinion on which to species are the parents of A. Thiellei?
Thanks,
Nate

It's all in here....

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Originally Posted by WDLV

Here's the whole thing. http://www.clowntank.com/About_Us.html

natep206 · 05/09/2010, 12:51 PM

I read that last week. so you say A. Sandaracinos and A. occellaris?

WDLV · 05/09/2010, 01:01 PM

Yes.

vaporize · 05/10/2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WDLV

hi Vap,
Not sure I follow you. Appoll??? This definately does not fit into any of the normal species descriptions in the skunk complex.
Given your trade, if you know where to get more like the one pictured, please let me know. I checked with Fedex a couple weeks ago and CAN can ship priority overnight to the US.

Amphiprion akallopisos

clowns101 · 05/10/2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vaporize

Amphiprion akallopisos

I hate to break it to you,but Amphiprion akallopisos dont even have a head bar.The body shape of the fish isnt the same as one either.

vaporize · 05/10/2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by clowns101

I hate to break it to you,but Amphiprion akallopisos dont even have a head bar.The body shape of the fish isnt the same as one either.

sorry you are right, I really haven't look at them in a long while. But they do have the skunk bodyshape. The coloration of fin_wing's actually do look like a normal akallopiso coloration, it has that yellowish bottom with color transition up to pink/brown at the top.

clowns101 · 05/10/2010, 08:42 PM

It does have the shape to a point,but its not shaped just like a skunk.Hard to explaine but this fish has a wider shape IMO than a normal skunk.The fish also has a much diffirent color pattern than the normal skunk.

WDLV · 05/11/2010, 06:25 AM

I would say it has the general youthful body plan, similar head bar and pink base color of A. perideraion but it has yellow anterior markings consistant with other A. sandaracinos hybrids such as A. leucokranos and A sandaracinos in general.

Keep in mind that a lot of skunks beef up around the mid section when they become female.

WDLV · 07/09/2010, 08:19 AM

BUMP

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

DeathWish302 · 03/17/2011, 09:47 AM

BUMP for an interesting read.....

Addiction is a funny thing....why did I choose clowns?

WDLV · 03/17/2011, 10:03 AM

Well I have confirmed at least one more A. thiellei is out there (possibly a pair) in the UK. Waiting on a better picture of one of them that I suspect is actually A. leucokranos.

Oh, and I got another A. thiellei two days ago but since it came from another hobbyist, I don't think that really improves the worldwide numbers any.

vaporize · 03/17/2011, 10:09 AM

Julian Sprung has a pair in his refugium LOL (beside those mangroves)

DeathWish302 · 03/17/2011, 10:11 AM

Are you couting (have counted) Mike (Zoa Fan on MichiganReefers.com)? I don't know if he still has the single, but that's one more.

http://www.michiganreefers.com/forum...-thiellei.html

WDLV · 03/17/2011, 10:25 AM

...Aloha Mr. Chan!

Deathwish,
I didn't know about that particular handle, but I recognize the fish. That is the same one that is owned by "marroonytunes" on RCF. So, no. That doesn't help the count. If you are friends with him, I have failed to get a response from him as to whether I may use his photos on my site. I would like to have pics of all the A. thielleis worldwide on my site....

msman825 · 03/17/2011, 11:31 AM

congrats on the new thiellei walt, and isseym i would have to pair it if it was mine. thats a beauty also and fin-wing that nem and clown are beauty's

DeathWish302 · 03/17/2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WDLV

...Aloha Mr. Chan!

Deathwish,
I didn't know about that particular handle, but I recognize the fish. That is the same one that is owned by "marroonytunes" on RCF. So, no. That doesn't help the count. If you are friends with him, I have failed to get a response from him as to whether I may use his photos on my site. I would like to have pics of all the A. thielleis worldwide on my site....

Sorry Walt... I was just surfing MR for any rare spawners in SE MI and stumbled on a single within a stones throw. I don't really know the reefers in MI yet, as I have more roots in NE IN and East-Central PA/NY/DE/MD.

WDLV · 03/17/2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by msman825

congrats on the new thiellei walt, and isseym i would have to pair it if it was mine.

Thanks! ...and I agree with pairing it with either a sandaracinos or an ocellaris.

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Originally Posted by DeathWish302

Sorry Walt... I was just surfing MR for any rare spawners in SE MI and stumbled on a single within a stones throw. I don't really know the reefers in MI yet, as I have more roots in NE IN and East-Central PA/NY/DE/MD.

It would be great if you (and others) could put your name in your signature so we can have an idea who we're talking to on this and other forums where the handle might be different. I'm just saying....

05/05/2010, 02:14 PM	#28
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	Keep up on the squid and krill or it will turn brown like mine. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/09/2010, 01:01 PM	#36
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	Yes. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/10/2010, 08:42 PM	#40
clowns101 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,041	It does have the shape to a point,but its not shaped just like a skunk.Hard to explaine but this fish has a wider shape IMO than a normal skunk.The fish also has a much diffirent color pattern than the normal skunk. __________________ Thanks, Austin clowns.101@hotmail.com Current Tank Info: 125 mixed reef system

05/11/2010, 06:25 AM	#41
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	I would say it has the general youthful body plan, similar head bar and pink base color of A. perideraion but it has yellow anterior markings consistant with other A. sandaracinos hybrids such as A. leucokranos and A sandaracinos in general. Keep in mind that a lot of skunks beef up around the mid section when they become female. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

07/09/2010, 08:19 AM	#42
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	BUMP Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/09/2010, 11:56 AM	#33
natep206 Blenniella chrysospilos Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 339	great thread. WDLV, I am interested to here your most definate opinion on which to species are the parents of A. Thiellei? Thanks, Nate

05/09/2010, 12:51 PM	#35
natep206 Blenniella chrysospilos Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 339	I read that last week. so you say A. Sandaracinos and A. occellaris?

03/17/2011, 09:47 AM	#43
DeathWish302 Clown Hoarder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wixom, MI Posts: 1,603	BUMP for an interesting read..... Addiction is a funny thing....why did I choose clowns? __________________ -Frank Save 'Wild' Nemo and his Nem.! Would you transplant a Redwood b/c it looks good with birds in the backyard??? Buy CB fish and Captive-Cloned nems. Current Tank Info: 175gal. 3-tier Reef, 400W/250W Radiums, LED/CFL Par38 Mangrove Lagoon 12g Aquapod GBTA 'sterile' tank w/ DIY LED Lighting

03/17/2011, 10:03 AM	#44
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	Well I have confirmed at least one more A. thiellei is out there (possibly a pair) in the UK. Waiting on a better picture of one of them that I suspect is actually A. leucokranos. Oh, and I got another A. thiellei two days ago but since it came from another hobbyist, I don't think that really improves the worldwide numbers any. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

03/17/2011, 10:09 AM	#45
vaporize Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Canada Posts: 750	Julian Sprung has a pair in his refugium LOL (beside those mangroves)

03/17/2011, 10:11 AM	#46
DeathWish302 Clown Hoarder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wixom, MI Posts: 1,603	Are you couting (have counted) Mike (Zoa Fan on MichiganReefers.com)? I don't know if he still has the single, but that's one more. http://www.michiganreefers.com/forum...-thiellei.html __________________ -Frank Save 'Wild' Nemo and his Nem.! Would you transplant a Redwood b/c it looks good with birds in the backyard??? Buy CB fish and Captive-Cloned nems. Current Tank Info: 175gal. 3-tier Reef, 400W/250W Radiums, LED/CFL Par38 Mangrove Lagoon 12g Aquapod GBTA 'sterile' tank w/ DIY LED Lighting

03/17/2011, 10:25 AM	#47
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	...Aloha Mr. Chan! Deathwish, I didn't know about that particular handle, but I recognize the fish. That is the same one that is owned by "marroonytunes" on RCF. So, no. That doesn't help the count. If you are friends with him, I have failed to get a response from him as to whether I may use his photos on my site. I would like to have pics of all the A. thielleis worldwide on my site.... __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

03/17/2011, 11:31 AM	#48
msman825 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: maine Posts: 1,301	congrats on the new thiellei walt, and isseym i would have to pair it if it was mine. thats a beauty also and fin-wing that nem and clown are beauty's __________________ MSMAN

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