Royal-Exclusiv / Vertex Cone Skimmer Club - Page 66

Klaus Jansen · 01/08/2014, 06:11 AM

@Techbiker

Sorry to heard this. Please noticed, the IN-Series has nothing to do with Royal-Exclusiv, its Chinese made Skimmers.
Royal-Exclusiv produced the Alpha Line for Vertex and the Partnership is ending middle of 2013. Royal-Exclusiv dont work anymore for Vertex/Proline.

Jeremy B. · 01/08/2014, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notjohnwayne

Thanks Jeremy- I took it apart and scrubbed it down- there was a lot of buildup around the end berring. Soaking it in vinegar now- all I had was the apple cider kind...

That will be enough to dissolve the calcium / magnesium buildup. However, if it's been that way for a while it could have already damaged the block itself. You'll know after you get it completely cleaned out and back up and running. If it's still turning off at that point then you will need a new motorblock for it.

Notjohnwayne · 01/08/2014, 09:59 AM

IS that a warranty item? Would I be better off with a new pump (assuming it is just a little bit more)

Jeremy B. · 01/08/2014, 01:42 PM

It is indeed under warranty for two years. Did you get it through us, or somewhere different?

Notjohnwayne · 01/08/2014, 06:32 PM

I purchased it second hand. I put it back together and it has been on for half an hour as of this, but the level of "extra white" bubbles is only about half an inch thick. Micro bubbles come right out and push up tot he base of the skimmer neck, but the next layer of bubbles isn;t as big as it used to be.

Notjohnwayne · 01/08/2014, 06:46 PM

Here is a picture

Jeremy B. · 01/09/2014, 03:29 PM

Any chance you can get a more clear picture? Also, when was the last time the air silencer was cleaned out?

Notjohnwayne · 01/09/2014, 03:39 PM

It hasn't been that I am aware of. Is this better?

Jeremy B. · 01/09/2014, 04:02 PM

It could be a a bit clogged, refer to page 8 of this pdf for instructions on how to clean it:

http://premiumaquatics.com/prodimage...150-manual.pdf

davesolo29 · 01/19/2014, 04:35 PM

How much water is it sitting in? Doesn't look like enough from that picture.

AndreMF · 02/21/2014, 06:27 PM

First of all, thank you jeremy for being such a resource here at Reef central. 6 months ago or so I got a chance to buy a RE 250 Deluxe internal. It is a beauty and I really love the skimmer design, build quality, constant levels of foam +++ the issue I am having is that the neck gets clogged with "mud" while the skimmate is tea-like. I tried fixing this by installing a self cleaning kit, a swabbie from avast marine. This got rid of the buildup on the sides, and instead all the mud (seems to be the same amount) gets all over the swabbie

The skimmate is still quite pale.

I suspect the skimmer is too large for my Aqua Medic 120 (530 litres?) and that this might be the issue. The aquarium is heavily stocked with sps, lps, and softies + fish, so I think the bioload is quite high. I´ve tried skimming wetter without much luck, dryskimming made it worse.
So what do you suggest?
I am a pretty decent DIYér and was wondering if I should take the time to make a "prostetic" inner tube for the skimmer, i.e. making the inner tube narrower? The thought is that later on I can remove the removeable inner tube and use it on a larger system if I get one later.

Would ozone help?

Or do you think I should try selling it and getting another RE model? If so, which one?

Thank you in advance Jeremy, your constant fedback and willingnes to help people on this forum is in part why I want to continue investing in RE products instead of going the cheaper route.

Best regards André of Norway.

Jeremy B. · 02/24/2014, 10:25 AM

Hi Andre, that 250 is definitely way too big for a 140g system. This is the reason why the inside of the neck just mucks up really fast and you don't get a good balanced skimmate put out of it. You really need to be in their 180 series skimmers, such as the Mini 180 or the Double Cone 180. A 200 series might even be just slightly on the large side for you in my opinion.

AndreMF · 02/24/2014, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy B.

Hi Andre, that 250 is definitely way too big for a 140g system. This is the reason why the inside of the neck just mucks up really fast and you don't get a good balanced skimmate put out of it. You really need to be in their 180 series skimmers, such as the Mini 180 or the Double Cone 180. A 200 series might even be just slightly on the large side for you in my opinion.

Thank you Jeremy. I thought maybe that the new RD3 pumps might help with a oversized skimmer? (I.e DC200 for my tank?)

You are the expert and I will follow your advice. My goal is to have a low nutrient tank for sps, especially acropora species, and at the same time have a skimmer able to remove the biological load from several fish. In other words, the skimmer I am looking for should be able to:
a) reduce nutrient levels to a very low level in a aquarium full of sps.
b) Being capable of handling the bioload of several fishes.

What model would you recommend for my spesific setup and goals please.

Best regards André.

Jeremy B. · 02/26/2014, 09:08 AM

Oversizing is more related to body and neck diameter than it is the pump on the skimmer, although that does play into it as well.

For your size tank the Double Cone 180 would be a perfect fit (140g system). The Double Cone 200 would still be borderline on the large size, and wouldn't make sense given the availability of a Double Cone 180 and that being a perfect match for any bioload you could put on it with that volume.

AndreMF · 02/26/2014, 09:26 AM

To the point and explanatory as well, excellent as always. RE DC180 it is then, And I guess the RD3DC motor is a given?
Thank you once again Jeremy, your input is much aprechiated.
André.

RazorRC · 02/26/2014, 06:06 PM

I have the Alpha 250 on my 180 + 90 sump, works great.

Jeremy B. · 02/27/2014, 01:56 PM

@Andre, Absolutely go with the new RD3 motor on it, without a doubt one of the best pumps available in our industry!

AndreMF · 02/27/2014, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy B.

@Andre, Absolutely go with the new RD3 motor on it, without a doubt one of the best pumps available in our industry!

Thank you once again Jeremy.

Confuse · 02/28/2014, 04:03 PM

Jeremy,

So I was planning to buy an Alpha 200 for my 150g (200g total water volume), but have just found out they're no longer made by Royal Exclusiv. I plan to run a heavily stocked tank with SPS. What would you guys recommend from the Bubble King line? Or another place to buy a Royal Exclusiv branded Alpha 200?

Klaus Jansen · 03/01/2014, 05:13 AM

@Confuse

thats right. Current, the Alphas are not manufctured by Royal-Exclusiv. RE dont work anymore with Proline/Vertex. I can recommend for your 200 g Tank a Double-Cone 200 or Supermarines 200, and go with the new RD3 Speedy Pump. Thats a *Dreamteam* ...

I think, both modells are on Stock in USA/Premium-Aquatics....

best regards ... Klaus

loweryster · 03/02/2014, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Confuse

Jeremy,

So I was planning to buy an Alpha 200 for my 150g (200g total water volume), but have just found out they're no longer made by Royal Exclusiv. I plan to run a heavily stocked tank with SPS. What would you guys recommend from the Bubble King line? Or another place to buy a Royal Exclusiv branded Alpha 200?

Go for the double cone. I just purchased a double cone 180 w/speedy to replace my ~5 year old Alpha 170. The Alpha has been a reliable skimmer but never preformed very good for my setup. I have yet to install the double cone but a can tell you its like a piece of high-end art work. I just want to look at it and not get it wet. HaHa! Contact Jeremy at PA he can help you decide.

clowndude · 03/04/2014, 10:35 AM

Hi Jeremy,

I'm looking into getting the new BK double cone with the DC pump. I currently have a 200 with a 30 gallon sump. I am currently medium stocked on fish with a lot of sps. Would you recommend the 200 or 250 model and do you have them in stock?

Thank you,
Nick

Jeremy B. · 03/04/2014, 01:11 PM

Without a doubt I would do the 8" body Double Cone 200 on this setup, and not the 10" Double Cone 250. The 200 would be more than plenty for any bioload you ever could put in that size display. You'll love the smoothness and sheer quietness of the new Speedy pump as well, they are phenomenal!

clowndude · 03/04/2014, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy B.

Without a doubt I would do the 8" body Double Cone 200 on this setup, and not the 10" Double Cone 250. The 200 would be more than plenty for any bioload you ever could put in that size display. You'll love the smoothness and sheer quietness of the new Speedy pump as well, they are phenomenal!

Thanks for the information Jeremy. Do you happen to have any in stock?

Jeremy B. · 03/04/2014, 01:23 PM

Yes, those are in stock and we can ship immediately. It looks like you're in a 3-day zone from us, so if you can get the order in within the next hour we can still have it shipped today for arrival to you before the weekend.

02/26/2014, 06:06 PM	#1641
RazorRC Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 36	I have the Alpha 250 on my 180 + 90 sump, works great. __________________ 180g reef w 90g sump 3 - EcoTech Radion XR30w G2, 2 - MP40w ES Vertex Alpha 250 & Puratek 100 RO/DI Speedwave DC-2640 return, 3 - Fluval E300 heaters

01/08/2014, 06:11 AM	#1626
Klaus Jansen RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,256	@Techbiker Sorry to heard this. Please noticed, the IN-Series has nothing to do with Royal-Exclusiv, its Chinese made Skimmers. Royal-Exclusiv produced the Alpha Line for Vertex and the Partnership is ending middle of 2013. Royal-Exclusiv dont work anymore for Vertex/Proline.

01/08/2014, 09:59 AM	#1628
Notjohnwayne Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Billings, Mt Posts: 43	IS that a warranty item? Would I be better off with a new pump (assuming it is just a little bit more)

01/08/2014, 01:42 PM	#1629
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	It is indeed under warranty for two years. Did you get it through us, or somewhere different?

01/08/2014, 06:32 PM	#1630
Notjohnwayne Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Billings, Mt Posts: 43	I purchased it second hand. I put it back together and it has been on for half an hour as of this, but the level of "extra white" bubbles is only about half an inch thick. Micro bubbles come right out and push up tot he base of the skimmer neck, but the next layer of bubbles isn;t as big as it used to be.

01/09/2014, 03:29 PM	#1632
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Any chance you can get a more clear picture? Also, when was the last time the air silencer was cleaned out?

01/09/2014, 04:02 PM	#1634
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	It could be a a bit clogged, refer to page 8 of this pdf for instructions on how to clean it: http://premiumaquatics.com/prodimage...150-manual.pdf

01/19/2014, 04:35 PM	#1635
davesolo29 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 107	How much water is it sitting in? Doesn't look like enough from that picture.

02/21/2014, 06:27 PM	#1636
AndreMF Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 9	First of all, thank you jeremy for being such a resource here at Reef central. 6 months ago or so I got a chance to buy a RE 250 Deluxe internal. It is a beauty and I really love the skimmer design, build quality, constant levels of foam +++ the issue I am having is that the neck gets clogged with "mud" while the skimmate is tea-like. I tried fixing this by installing a self cleaning kit, a swabbie from avast marine. This got rid of the buildup on the sides, and instead all the mud (seems to be the same amount) gets all over the swabbie The skimmate is still quite pale. I suspect the skimmer is too large for my Aqua Medic 120 (530 litres?) and that this might be the issue. The aquarium is heavily stocked with sps, lps, and softies + fish, so I think the bioload is quite high. I´ve tried skimming wetter without much luck, dryskimming made it worse. So what do you suggest? I am a pretty decent DIYér and was wondering if I should take the time to make a "prostetic" inner tube for the skimmer, i.e. making the inner tube narrower? The thought is that later on I can remove the removeable inner tube and use it on a larger system if I get one later. Would ozone help? Or do you think I should try selling it and getting another RE model? If so, which one? Thank you in advance Jeremy, your constant fedback and willingnes to help people on this forum is in part why I want to continue investing in RE products instead of going the cheaper route. Best regards André of Norway.

02/24/2014, 10:25 AM	#1637
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Hi Andre, that 250 is definitely way too big for a 140g system. This is the reason why the inside of the neck just mucks up really fast and you don't get a good balanced skimmate put out of it. You really need to be in their 180 series skimmers, such as the Mini 180 or the Double Cone 180. A 200 series might even be just slightly on the large side for you in my opinion.

02/26/2014, 09:08 AM	#1639
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Oversizing is more related to body and neck diameter than it is the pump on the skimmer, although that does play into it as well. For your size tank the Double Cone 180 would be a perfect fit (140g system). The Double Cone 200 would still be borderline on the large size, and wouldn't make sense given the availability of a Double Cone 180 and that being a perfect match for any bioload you could put on it with that volume.

02/26/2014, 09:26 AM	#1640
AndreMF Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 9	To the point and explanatory as well, excellent as always. RE DC180 it is then, And I guess the RD3DC motor is a given? Thank you once again Jeremy, your input is much aprechiated. André.

02/27/2014, 01:56 PM	#1642
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	@Andre, Absolutely go with the new RD3 motor on it, without a doubt one of the best pumps available in our industry!

02/28/2014, 04:03 PM	#1644
Confuse Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 385	Jeremy, So I was planning to buy an Alpha 200 for my 150g (200g total water volume), but have just found out they're no longer made by Royal Exclusiv. I plan to run a heavily stocked tank with SPS. What would you guys recommend from the Bubble King line? Or another place to buy a Royal Exclusiv branded Alpha 200?

03/01/2014, 05:13 AM	#1645
Klaus Jansen RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,256	@Confuse thats right. Current, the Alphas are not manufctured by Royal-Exclusiv. RE dont work anymore with Proline/Vertex. I can recommend for your 200 g Tank a Double-Cone 200 or Supermarines 200, and go with the new RD3 Speedy Pump. Thats a Dreamteam ... I think, both modells are on Stock in USA/Premium-Aquatics.... best regards ... Klaus

03/04/2014, 10:35 AM	#1647
clowndude Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 760	Hi Jeremy, I'm looking into getting the new BK double cone with the DC pump. I currently have a 200 with a 30 gallon sump. I am currently medium stocked on fish with a lot of sps. Would you recommend the 200 or 250 model and do you have them in stock? Thank you, Nick

03/04/2014, 01:11 PM	#1648
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Without a doubt I would do the 8" body Double Cone 200 on this setup, and not the 10" Double Cone 250. The 200 would be more than plenty for any bioload you ever could put in that size display. You'll love the smoothness and sheer quietness of the new Speedy pump as well, they are phenomenal!

03/04/2014, 01:23 PM	#1650
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Yes, those are in stock and we can ship immediately. It looks like you're in a 3-day zone from us, so if you can get the order in within the next hour we can still have it shipped today for arrival to you before the weekend.