Dosing Pro Bio S AND N0:P0x ok?

dubmaneh · 02/03/2018, 08:58 AM

As the title states, is dosing both Aquaforest Pro Bio S and N0P0x ok?

From what I gather the Pro Bio S would be the bacteria that the N0:P0x is feeding. No?

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hegeh · 02/03/2018, 09:06 AM

I would recommend just dose nopox to avoid further problem such as cyanobacteria.

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shermanator · 02/03/2018, 09:29 AM

Dosing both bacteria and carbon source (NOPOX is acetic acid and ethanol) is fine. That is the basis of ZEOvit (e.g., ZEObak is bacteria and ZEOstart is the carbon source), Prodibio, ...

Cheapreef · 02/03/2018, 09:46 AM

Yes it's very common, usually I people dose MB7 with Vinegar or NoPox.

dubmaneh · 02/03/2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by shermanator

Dosing both bacteria and carbon source (NOPOX is acetic acid and ethanol) is fine. That is the basis of ZEOvit (e.g., ZEObak is bacteria and ZEOstart is the carbon source), Prodibio, ...

That's what I understood as well. Just wanted to make sure.

Any issues with changing the bacterial product strain every week or is it better to just stick with one?

Thinking that changing it up would help with bacterial diversity.

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dubmaneh · 02/03/2018, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheapreef

Yes it's very common, usually I people dose MB7 with Vinegar or NoPox.

Gotcha. Bacteria + Carbon source. Thanks.

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bertoni · 02/03/2018, 10:31 PM

I agree that dosing both likely is fine. The bacterial supplement might have some carbon in it, so I'd proceed carefully. You can change the bacteria source as often as you'd like. I doubt that it will encourage much diversity, since bacteria are very competitive and specialized. I suspect that any introduced strains are likely to disappear quickly.

Misticl · 02/05/2018, 02:07 AM

From my understanding (reading the fine print) you MUST have a protein skimmer to dose nopox. Everyone assumes that everyone has a sump and skimmer. I don't and almost dosed. Who knows what would have happened but I didn't want to find out. Sorry if I missed your setup info.

bertoni · 02/05/2018, 06:40 PM

Well, it's probably a good idea to have a skimmer when dosing vinegar, but we don't know what might happen. It's possible that the dosing will convert mineralized nutrients into something that the other filtration (live rock, etc) can export. We don't have many reports on this approach, though. Actually, I"m not sure that I've seen any.

02/03/2018, 08:58 AM	#1
dubmaneh Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 271	Dosing Pro Bio S AND N0:P0x ok? As the title states, is dosing both Aquaforest Pro Bio S and N0P0x ok? From what I gather the Pro Bio S would be the bacteria that the N0:P0x is feeding. No? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

02/03/2018, 10:31 PM	#7
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I agree that dosing both likely is fine. The bacterial supplement might have some carbon in it, so I'd proceed carefully. You can change the bacteria source as often as you'd like. I doubt that it will encourage much diversity, since bacteria are very competitive and specialized. I suspect that any introduced strains are likely to disappear quickly. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

02/05/2018, 06:40 PM	#9
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	Well, it's probably a good idea to have a skimmer when dosing vinegar, but we don't know what might happen. It's possible that the dosing will convert mineralized nutrients into something that the other filtration (live rock, etc) can export. We don't have many reports on this approach, though. Actually, I"m not sure that I've seen any. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

02/03/2018, 09:06 AM	#2
hegeh Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 223	I would recommend just dose nopox to avoid further problem such as cyanobacteria. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

02/03/2018, 09:29 AM	#3
shermanator Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 854	Dosing both bacteria and carbon source (NOPOX is acetic acid and ethanol) is fine. That is the basis of ZEOvit (e.g., ZEObak is bacteria and ZEOstart is the carbon source), Prodibio, ...

02/03/2018, 09:46 AM	#4
Cheapreef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,076	Yes it's very common, usually I people dose MB7 with Vinegar or NoPox.

02/05/2018, 02:07 AM	#8
Misticl Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: MI Posts: 27	From my understanding (reading the fine print) you MUST have a protein skimmer to dose nopox. Everyone assumes that everyone has a sump and skimmer. I don't and almost dosed. Who knows what would have happened but I didn't want to find out. Sorry if I missed your setup info.