Seneye Web Server Substitute

BlueWorldJeff · 03/03/2017, 04:23 PM

Has anyone found a substitute for the seneye Web server? Can I just use a usb to ethernet adapter and then plug into my router? I don't have a computer that stays on 24/7 to plug the usb into

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Knighthawk · 03/03/2017, 04:42 PM

USB to Ethernet will not work for a router. You could buy a cheap all in one computer that you leave on all the time.

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serbusfish · 03/03/2017, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWorldJeff

Has anyone found a substitute for the seneye Web server? Can I just use a usb to ethernet adapter and then plug into my router? I don't have a computer that stays on 24/7 to plug the usb into

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The whole point of the web server is to eliminate the need for a computer. The seneye plugs into the server which plugs into your router, that's it.

mcgyvr · 03/03/2017, 05:03 PM

Any "USB Device Server" should work with it I believe.

BlueWorldJeff · 03/03/2017, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mcgyvr

Any "USB Device Server" should work with it I believe.

also called a print server?

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mcgyvr · 03/03/2017, 05:22 PM

I would think it would be a print/file server... Not sure if there is really a difference..
But if it says it can share USB thumb drives/external USB hard drives it "should" work..

The Belkin Home Base is proven to work.. But I think its no longer available new..

Buy one.. (keep the receipt) and let us know..

BlueWorldJeff · 03/03/2017, 05:28 PM

ordered the iogear single port usb 2.0 print server. will let you know how it goes

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mcgyvr · 03/03/2017, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWorldJeff

ordered the iogear single port usb 2.0 print server. will let you know how it goes

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Keep us updated..
The seneye server is pretty darn pricey

perkint · 03/04/2017, 05:06 AM

I thought the Seneye sensor needed to talk to local software to work? The server has it embedded but anything else just works for getting the Seneye onto the network, but you still need a computer running the software to get the readings online.

Not actually tried it (only use mine for the light sensor so just plug it in to the laptop when I want to use it) but that is my understanding.

Tim

BlueWorldJeff · 03/04/2017, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by perkint

I thought the Seneye sensor needed to talk to local software to work? The server has it embedded but anything else just works for getting the Seneye onto the network, but you still need a computer running the software to get the readings online.

Not actually tried it (only use mine for the light sensor so just plug it in to the laptop when I want to use it) but that is my understanding.

Tim

The SWS is just a web server that has a built in web page interface that performs the task of uploading data to seneye.me.

I'm guessing the SWS uses the seneye device and just makes the config available via web page instead of seneye connect which is the software for computers.

We'll see. I have an IPad that I use for my Apex Fusion display, so I could use that for the seneye.me display as well. As far as needing a computer to be on all the time, I am assuming the web server handles the uploading?

perkint · 03/04/2017, 07:22 PM

I hope you are right, but as I say, that's not what I have seen said (on another forum).

I did actually contact Seneye support a fair while back and ask if a Raspberry Pi could be used and they said "No, but the updated software we are working on makes that an easier option, so stay tuned". Not heard any more, but that updated software became the current version a long time ago. Not sure what that means: are they going to release an RPi version or not? I suspect not

Tim

DEadsCSU · 03/16/2017, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWorldJeff

ordered the iogear single port usb 2.0 print server. will let you know how it goes

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How did your iogear single port usb 2.0 print server work? I'm hoping it's working fine!

BlueWorldJeff · 03/16/2017, 05:48 PM

unfortunately, not so well. like Mcgyvr said I think a USB device server is required, the printer server tries to recognize it as a printer. the USB server would just let a computer running the seneye connect software recognize the seneye. I believe the computer would still need to be on all the time to gather real time readings. the seneye Web server has the connect software on it that sends the data to seneye.me. that is the difference. for me, right now, I am using a laptop with seneye connect software set to stay on even with lid shut. I plan non getting the seneye Web server if the price goes down

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shiftline · 03/16/2017, 11:14 PM

I have seen people use raspberry pi's as a "wired USB extender". Still need to have the app running on a pc though

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DEadsCSU · 03/17/2017, 07:39 AM

Bummer. I'll just have to find a cheap computer on slickdeals to run as my server then.

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BlueWorldJeff · 03/17/2017, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DEadsCSU

Bummer. I'll just have to find a cheap computer on slickdeals to run as my server then.

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just make sure you don't pay more than a seneye Web server would cost

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DEadsCSU · 03/17/2017, 10:04 AM

This computer is $160, and looks like it would work as Senete Web Server: https://slickdeals.net/f/9845740-cub...archBarV2Algo1

RussellE15 · 05/08/2018, 09:02 AM

I have a solution, and it's pretty flash...

So, buy yourself a cheap windows tablet. Get a power through microUSB OTG cable with a few USB ports, but make sure it provides power as well. Install seneye connect software on the tablet, connect seneye to tablet via one of the USB ports you now have. Change your power setting on tablet to always on when plugged in and bam! Seneye web server! They will probably ban me from seneye now since I've done this. Tablet costs £50, cable costs maybe £15 max and everyone has spare USB chargers... Velcro to mount the tablet is cheap too! Plus you can watch Netflix on your new server, and do pretty much everything else a PC does.

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RussellE15 · 05/08/2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RussellE15

I have a solution, and it's pretty flash...

So, buy yourself a cheap windows tablet. Get a power through microUSB OTG cable with a few USB ports, but make sure it provides power as well. Install seneye connect software on the tablet, connect seneye to tablet via one of the USB ports you now have. Change your power setting on tablet to always on when plugged in and bam! Seneye web server! They will probably ban me from seneye now since I've done this. Tablet costs £50, cable costs maybe £15 max and everyone has spare USB chargers... Velcro to mount the tablet is cheap too! Plus you can watch Netflix on your new server, and do pretty much everything else a PC does.

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mcgyvr · 05/08/2018, 10:17 AM

@RussellE15
Did someone say Amazon Fire 7 tablet? $29 when on sale..
I'm sure it would work too.. May just need to sideload google playstore on it (simple process) to get the Seneye software..

RussellE15 · 05/08/2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mcgyvr

@RussellE15
Did someone say Amazon Fire 7 tablet? $29 when on sale..
I'm sure it would work too.. May just need to sideload google playstore on it (simple process) to get the Seneye software..

Oh wow, I didn't see that. And here I was thinking I was smart lol. Not sure if you can keep android device powered on all the time though. Whichever way someone does it, its way cheaper than the official server, and a lot more functional.

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mcgyvr · 05/08/2018, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RussellE15

Oh wow, I didn't see that. And here I was thinking I was smart lol. Not sure if you can keep android device powered on all the time though. Whichever way someone does it, its way cheaper than the official server, and a lot more functional.

You can.. I run multiple firetablets as my "smarthome dashboards" (control panels) mounted in various spots around my house on the walls.. You can keep the screen on all the time and it powered up all the time..

I'm not positive that the fire tablets would work but if you got it working like you say you did then I don't see why not.. I don't have a seneye to test..

perkint · 05/09/2018, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgyvr

@RussellE15
Did someone say Amazon Fire 7 tablet? $29 when on sale..
I'm sure it would work too.. May just need to sideload google playstore on it (simple process) to get the Seneye software..

Thanks for that! Never knew Seneye had released an android version! Sure I have an old android phone kicking around

Tim

oreo57 · 05/10/2018, 07:22 PM

Though not exactly related.. thought this was interesting enough to drop here:

http://www.ma55ey.co.uk/2015/04/usin...te-seneye.html

Dutchtank · 08/15/2018, 12:55 PM

So.. just to know for sure I understand it.

If I connect the Seneye to a android or windows device by USB, install SCA v2 software on that device and let it run 24/7 it will sent data to Seneye.me?

If I use a OTHER device, lets say my Samsung S9+ android, with the same SCA v2 software, I can see real time data..??

I am going to usa in a few weeks ( I am from Amsterdam, The Netherlands by the way)
I will be traveling trough the Rockie Mountains for 3 weeks and would be great to see real time data of my tank back home.

That way I can check at least temp and ammonia and see if the housesitter does not feed to much hahaha.

03/03/2017, 04:23 PM	#1
BlueWorldJeff Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Murrieta, CA Posts: 107	Seneye Web Server Substitute Has anyone found a substitute for the seneye Web server? Can I just use a usb to ethernet adapter and then plug into my router? I don't have a computer that stays on 24/7 to plug the usb into Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk __________________ Blue World Aquatics - specializing in the buying and selling of fresh and saltwater equipment Current Tank Info: 180 gallon Mixed Reef - SPS, LPS, Apex Controller, Aquamaxx AM250 Skimmer, 2 x Tunze 6105, Waveline DC6000 Return Pump

03/03/2017, 05:03 PM	#4
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	Any "USB Device Server" should work with it I believe. __________________ Who me?

03/03/2017, 05:22 PM	#6
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	I would think it would be a print/file server... Not sure if there is really a difference.. But if it says it can share USB thumb drives/external USB hard drives it "should" work.. The Belkin Home Base is proven to work.. But I think its no longer available new.. Buy one.. (keep the receipt) and let us know.. __________________ Who me?

03/03/2017, 05:28 PM	#7
BlueWorldJeff Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Murrieta, CA Posts: 107	ordered the iogear single port usb 2.0 print server. will let you know how it goes Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk __________________ Blue World Aquatics - specializing in the buying and selling of fresh and saltwater equipment Current Tank Info: 180 gallon Mixed Reef - SPS, LPS, Apex Controller, Aquamaxx AM250 Skimmer, 2 x Tunze 6105, Waveline DC6000 Return Pump

03/16/2017, 05:48 PM	#13
BlueWorldJeff Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Murrieta, CA Posts: 107	unfortunately, not so well. like Mcgyvr said I think a USB device server is required, the printer server tries to recognize it as a printer. the USB server would just let a computer running the seneye connect software recognize the seneye. I believe the computer would still need to be on all the time to gather real time readings. the seneye Web server has the connect software on it that sends the data to seneye.me. that is the difference. for me, right now, I am using a laptop with seneye connect software set to stay on even with lid shut. I plan non getting the seneye Web server if the price goes down Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk __________________ Blue World Aquatics - specializing in the buying and selling of fresh and saltwater equipment Current Tank Info: 180 gallon Mixed Reef - SPS, LPS, Apex Controller, Aquamaxx AM250 Skimmer, 2 x Tunze 6105, Waveline DC6000 Return Pump

03/03/2017, 04:42 PM	#2
Knighthawk Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 167	USB to Ethernet will not work for a router. You could buy a cheap all in one computer that you leave on all the time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03/04/2017, 05:06 AM	#9
perkint Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Robin hood country, UK Posts: 817	I thought the Seneye sensor needed to talk to local software to work? The server has it embedded but anything else just works for getting the Seneye onto the network, but you still need a computer running the software to get the readings online. Not actually tried it (only use mine for the light sensor so just plug it in to the laptop when I want to use it) but that is my understanding. Tim

03/04/2017, 07:22 PM	#11
perkint Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Robin hood country, UK Posts: 817	I hope you are right, but as I say, that's not what I have seen said (on another forum). I did actually contact Seneye support a fair while back and ask if a Raspberry Pi could be used and they said "No, but the updated software we are working on makes that an easier option, so stay tuned". Not heard any more, but that updated software became the current version a long time ago. Not sure what that means: are they going to release an RPi version or not? I suspect not Tim

03/16/2017, 11:14 PM	#14
shiftline Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 537	I have seen people use raspberry pi's as a "wired USB extender". Still need to have the app running on a pc though Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ ReefDudes - Making Reefing Easy! Current Tank Info: Fuson 30L

03/17/2017, 07:39 AM	#15
DEadsCSU Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 56	Bummer. I'll just have to find a cheap computer on slickdeals to run as my server then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03/17/2017, 10:04 AM	#17
DEadsCSU Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 56	This computer is $160, and looks like it would work as Senete Web Server: https://slickdeals.net/f/9845740-cub...archBarV2Algo1

05/08/2018, 09:02 AM	#18
RussellE15 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 4	I have a solution, and it's pretty flash... So, buy yourself a cheap windows tablet. Get a power through microUSB OTG cable with a few USB ports, but make sure it provides power as well. Install seneye connect software on the tablet, connect seneye to tablet via one of the USB ports you now have. Change your power setting on tablet to always on when plugged in and bam! Seneye web server! They will probably ban me from seneye now since I've done this. Tablet costs £50, cable costs maybe £15 max and everyone has spare USB chargers... Velcro to mount the tablet is cheap too! Plus you can watch Netflix on your new server, and do pretty much everything else a PC does. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ https://t.me/pump_upp

05/08/2018, 10:17 AM	#20
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	@RussellE15 Did someone say Amazon Fire 7 tablet? $29 when on sale.. I'm sure it would work too.. May just need to sideload google playstore on it (simple process) to get the Seneye software.. __________________ Who me?

05/10/2018, 07:22 PM	#24
oreo57 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,793	Though not exactly related.. thought this was interesting enough to drop here: http://www.ma55ey.co.uk/2015/04/usin...te-seneye.html

08/15/2018, 12:55 PM	#25
Dutchtank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 1	So.. just to know for sure I understand it. If I connect the Seneye to a android or windows device by USB, install SCA v2 software on that device and let it run 24/7 it will sent data to Seneye.me? If I use a OTHER device, lets say my Samsung S9+ android, with the same SCA v2 software, I can see real time data..?? I am going to usa in a few weeks ( I am from Amsterdam, The Netherlands by the way) I will be traveling trough the Rockie Mountains for 3 weeks and would be great to see real time data of my tank back home. That way I can check at least temp and ammonia and see if the housesitter does not feed to much hahaha.