Another skimmer question??

Mike de Leon · 08/25/2018, 01:40 PM

Really tired of issues I keep running into.
What would be considered middle of the road that will last at least three years without having to service anything except cleaning.
I also need one that is quiet.
Sick of the cheap stuff. They end up becoming more expensive.
Tank is lightly stocked, 120. SPS mainly.

nikon187 · 08/25/2018, 04:25 PM

reef octopus

Mike de Leon · 08/25/2018, 04:34 PM

Thanks. I’m staying away from anything Coralvue.

moondoggy4 · 08/25/2018, 06:27 PM

Nyos 160 high end on cost.
Simplicity 240 low end on cost.
Used EM200 by Aqua Maxx very popular skimmer.

Mike de Leon · 08/25/2018, 09:18 PM

Thanks. So which one would have longevity?

Fig · 08/26/2018, 07:18 AM

Tunze 9415 imo. proven pumps and customer service.

tom obrecht · 08/26/2018, 07:50 AM

If you want something that will be dependable and past a long time...two brands I have used is Bubble King or ATB. Both are rock solid and high quality. Check the used equipment forums for occasionally they show up and save some bucks. Otherwise buy with confidence new.

Pablos RSM 450 · 08/26/2018, 09:15 AM

Great idea staying away from coralvue. Best out there is Lifereef. Been arround for years and will outlive any of the new fancy skimmers.

Mike de Leon · 08/26/2018, 06:49 PM

I'm gonna check all of these out. Not sure about the BK thou. A tad out of my range..

saveafish · 08/26/2018, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablos RSM 450

Great idea staying away from coralvue. Best out there is Lifereef. Been arround for years and will outlive any of the new fancy skimmers.

^^^^ this. proven over time

moondoggy4 · 08/26/2018, 08:46 PM

ATB is having or had a summer sale, so a better price. I just bought a Simplicity 240 for my 120 gallon tank, these are too new for a longevity tract record. The Nyos have been around for a while so they have a proven history,
The Aqua Maxx old skimmers are good they had a bad impeller and now it has been replaced with a new style that is much better. I have a JNS S Co-2 and the old style impeller just went out not feeling a 90 dollar impeller so I put my BNIB Simplicity 240 skimmer.

hkgar · 08/27/2018, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablos RSM 450

Great idea staying away from coralvue. Best out there is Lifereef. Been arround for years and will outlive any of the new fancy skimmers.

MTC is also excellent. I have had the Lifereef and now have the MTC. Both are great. They are, hands down, the best you can get.

hkgar · 08/27/2018, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike de Leon

I'm gonna check all of these out. Not sure about the BK thou. A tad out of my range..

Buying an inexpensive skimmer only means you will soon be buying another one and then you will have spent more than getting a good one first.

Been there, done that. Finally sucked it up and bout the Lifereef. I broke it and bought the MTC.

Mike de Leon · 08/28/2018, 02:50 PM

So the three that I have considered,
Nyos, ATB and Deltec.

Upon further investigation, the Nyos is actually only assembled in Germany. They won't reveal where the parts are made. Hence, issues with breaking plastic parts.

So it's down to ATB 840 and Deltec SC 1455.
The Deltec is the old model which has really stood the test of time.
Somehow, I cannot find the rating for the ATB.

tom obrecht · 08/28/2018, 06:36 PM

http://www.atb-usa.com/product-p/atb840.htm
Ratings are under tech details. I have used BK, Deltec and ATB. Of those I have stuck with ATB. I won’t switch. Deltec can be iffy with support if needed.

Mike de Leon · 08/28/2018, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom obrecht

http://www.atb-usa.com/product-p/atb840.htm
Ratings are under tech details. I have used BK, Deltec and ATB. Of those I have stuck with ATB. I won’t switch. Deltec can be iffy with support if needed.

Thanks!

And the winner........

ATB nano!
I have considered MTC and lifereef. I really just wanted to go with plug and play.
Thanks everyone for your input. This new skimmer set me back 400 bucks.
But the support I got from RC is PRICELESS!

tom obrecht · 08/28/2018, 06:56 PM

I think you will happy with ATB.

Mike de Leon · 08/28/2018, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom obrecht

I think you will happy with ATB.

Thank you. I am hoping the nano will be big enough for my 120. I see the total air draw is higher than my Ice cap. Although the body is smaller..

tom obrecht · 08/28/2018, 08:24 PM

They have been around for many years and I think they developed the cone skimmer (don’t quote me on that). When I was in the market for a new skimmer I did a lot of research and contacted a lot of long term successful reefers. Many of them in Europe. It was a brand used in many of my all time favorite displays so I convinced myself it was worthy. I never have looked back! Good luck!

Mike de Leon · 08/28/2018, 08:29 PM

Thank you! I feel even better now with my purchase! Cheers!

Mike de Leon · 08/30/2018, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom obrecht

They have been around for many years and I think they developed the cone skimmer (don’t quote me on that). When I was in the market for a new skimmer I did a lot of research and contacted a lot of long term successful reefers. Many of them in Europe. It was a brand used in many of my all time favorite displays so I convinced myself it was worthy. I never have looked back! Good luck!

Do you know if the Nano came with a controller? It's a DCT pump. Not sure what that means.
I asked ATB but did not get a response.

tom obrecht · 08/30/2018, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike de Leon

Do you know if the Nano came with a controller? It's a DCT pump. Not sure what that means.
I asked ATB but did not get a response.

Not sure but I would assume so if it is a DC pump . My ATB is an AC pump so it was plug and play. Is there a number you can call?

Mike de Leon · 08/30/2018, 04:55 PM

No number that I can find. I’m so surprised at the lack of communication from them. I have placed an order and had a couple of inquiries. No reply whatsoever.
So I asked what’s going on with the order today.

The answer?

May ship today.

That’s it. I just pray that I won’t need any support for the skimmer, if it does arrive.

reeftivo · 08/30/2018, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike de Leon

Thanks!

And the winner........

ATB nano!
I have considered MTC and lifereef. I really just wanted to go with plug and play.
Thanks everyone for your input. This new skimmer set me back 400 bucks.
But the support I got from RC is PRICELESS!

if you need any help with the nano let me know. when you get it mark the removable bubble plates so if you remove them when cleaning, they can be put back in the same spot. they are a precision press fit and ATB installs them out of the shop at the correct levels to optimize performance. i removed mine for cleaning and put them back in at different heights and the performance lagged a bit until i moved them back to close to the picture. i e-mailed ATB and they gave me the info. Oh, also, If you're looking for quiet then that's the skimmer for you.

i have one. great shorty skimmer.

reeftivo · 08/30/2018, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike de Leon

No number that I can find. I’m so surprised at the lack of communication from them. I have placed an order and had a couple of inquiries. No reply whatsoever.
So I asked what’s going on with the order today.

The answer?

May ship today.

That’s it. I just pray that I won’t need any support for the skimmer, if it does arrive.

I've had no issues with support but i bought the nano last year and my 840 several years ago. they were always responsive. keep us updated

08/25/2018, 01:40 PM	#1
Mike de Leon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 2,308	Another skimmer question?? Really tired of issues I keep running into. What would be considered middle of the road that will last at least three years without having to service anything except cleaning. I also need one that is quiet. Sick of the cheap stuff. They end up becoming more expensive. Tank is lightly stocked, 120. SPS mainly. __________________ Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon, 3 G4 Radions

08/25/2018, 04:25 PM	#2
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	reef octopus __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

08/25/2018, 04:34 PM	#3
Mike de Leon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 2,308	Thanks. I’m staying away from anything Coralvue. __________________ Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon, 3 G4 Radions

08/25/2018, 09:18 PM	#5
Mike de Leon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 2,308	Thanks. So which one would have longevity? __________________ Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon, 3 G4 Radions

08/26/2018, 07:50 AM	#7
tom obrecht Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: WI Posts: 3,014	If you want something that will be dependable and past a long time...two brands I have used is Bubble King or ATB. Both are rock solid and high quality. Check the used equipment forums for occasionally they show up and save some bucks. Otherwise buy with confidence new. __________________ Reef keeping is where Murphy's Law and your bank account collide!! TOTM May 2006

08/25/2018, 06:27 PM	#4
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	Nyos 160 high end on cost. Simplicity 240 low end on cost. Used EM200 by Aqua Maxx very popular skimmer.

08/26/2018, 07:18 AM	#6
Fig Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 817	Tunze 9415 imo. proven pumps and customer service.

08/26/2018, 09:15 AM	#8
Pablos RSM 450 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: California Posts: 343	Great idea staying away from coralvue. Best out there is Lifereef. Been arround for years and will outlive any of the new fancy skimmers. __________________ Mixed Reefer 450, Lifereef skimmer, APEX, GYRE 150, Jebao DCP 10,000 return pump, BRS dual media reactor, Kessil 360 lights, Coralife Reef Salt. Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 450

08/26/2018, 06:49 PM	#9
Mike de Leon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 2,308	I'm gonna check all of these out. Not sure about the BK thou. A tad out of my range.. __________________ Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon, 3 G4 Radions

08/26/2018, 08:46 PM	#11
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	ATB is having or had a summer sale, so a better price. I just bought a Simplicity 240 for my 120 gallon tank, these are too new for a longevity tract record. The Nyos have been around for a while so they have a proven history, The Aqua Maxx old skimmers are good they had a bad impeller and now it has been replaced with a new style that is much better. I have a JNS S Co-2 and the old style impeller just went out not feeling a 90 dollar impeller so I put my BNIB Simplicity 240 skimmer.

08/28/2018, 02:50 PM	#14
Mike de Leon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 2,308	So the three that I have considered, Nyos, ATB and Deltec. Upon further investigation, the Nyos is actually only assembled in Germany. They won't reveal where the parts are made. Hence, issues with breaking plastic parts. So it's down to ATB 840 and Deltec SC 1455. The Deltec is the old model which has really stood the test of time. Somehow, I cannot find the rating for the ATB. __________________ Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon, 3 G4 Radions

08/28/2018, 06:36 PM	#15
tom obrecht Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: WI Posts: 3,014	http://www.atb-usa.com/product-p/atb840.htm Ratings are under tech details. I have used BK, Deltec and ATB. Of those I have stuck with ATB. I won’t switch. Deltec can be iffy with support if needed. __________________ Reef keeping is where Murphy's Law and your bank account collide!! TOTM May 2006

08/28/2018, 06:56 PM	#17
tom obrecht Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: WI Posts: 3,014	I think you will happy with ATB. __________________ Reef keeping is where Murphy's Law and your bank account collide!! TOTM May 2006

08/28/2018, 08:24 PM	#19
tom obrecht Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: WI Posts: 3,014	They have been around for many years and I think they developed the cone skimmer (don’t quote me on that). When I was in the market for a new skimmer I did a lot of research and contacted a lot of long term successful reefers. Many of them in Europe. It was a brand used in many of my all time favorite displays so I convinced myself it was worthy. I never have looked back! Good luck! __________________ Reef keeping is where Murphy's Law and your bank account collide!! TOTM May 2006

08/28/2018, 08:29 PM	#20
Mike de Leon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 2,308	Thank you! I feel even better now with my purchase! Cheers! __________________ Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon, 3 G4 Radions

08/30/2018, 04:55 PM	#23
Mike de Leon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 2,308	No number that I can find. I’m so surprised at the lack of communication from them. I have placed an order and had a couple of inquiries. No reply whatsoever. So I asked what’s going on with the order today. The answer? May ship today. That’s it. I just pray that I won’t need any support for the skimmer, if it does arrive. __________________ Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon, 3 G4 Radions