Eclipse M or L?

DesertReefT4r · 02/20/2018, 07:34 PM

Which over flow for a 75g reef. Return pump is a Jeboa type DC rated around 1000-1320gph at 0 ft 100% power, cant remember the exact rating. At 5ft its about 700 gph ish. So the Eclipse M is large enough and I would use both drains in a modified bean animal. Or would you go for the larger Eclispe L and run a true bean animal. I like the longer overflow box but kind of think 3 drains is to much plumbing going on.

mcgyvr · 02/21/2018, 05:59 AM

L hands down..
Go bean or go home

ca1ore · 02/21/2018, 08:51 AM

Was about to comment that the Vectra L has more quality complaints than the M ...... but then realized you weren't asking about a pump

. Definitely go with the Eclipse L. Bean is better than herbie, and it's always good to have a bit of extra capacity (1,000 gph versus 800).

mcgyvr · 02/21/2018, 09:29 AM

Its only too much plumbing until that one time it saves you from a flood.. Then its just right

DesertReefT4r · 02/21/2018, 08:27 PM

Ok I will go with the L and do a bean animal drain. 1 full syphon, 1 partial syphon and 1 emergency drain. Anyone know where I can find a return line kit? I want to drill the back of the back of the tank for the return also and I have seen kits that include, diamond hole saw, loc line, bulkhead ect bit can seem to find them.

LQT · 02/22/2018, 11:32 AM

Glass holes sells return kits with an option to include the hole saw as well.

nereefpat · 02/22/2018, 02:06 PM

I was looking at off the shelf overflow boxes recently.

I would definitely get the L over the M for a 75 gallon tank, for the reasons stated (Bean, more flow, more surface skimming).

It's still only 12" wide though. I see the Synergy has a 16" wide one. Are there wider options?

LQT · 02/22/2018, 02:09 PM

Synergy also makes a 20 incher and I believe Modular Marine makes 36 incher and can probably custom make a larger one.

ca1ore · 02/22/2018, 02:22 PM

I used the 36" MM on my big tank. Could have gone even wider, but didn't feel like waiting for a custom model.

nereefpat · 02/22/2018, 02:34 PM

Thanks, guys.

I've been cursing my overflow system lately. I have a 6 foot 125 with those big, hideous megaflow overflows.

If I built another tank, I would want one overflow instead of two. It just seems silly to have a long tank with only 16" of skimming with the overflow, but I'm not sure about building a coast to coast in the tank with glass.

DesertReefT4r · 02/22/2018, 09:02 PM

Glass holes yep that was it, fou d it last night. Ordering a 3/4 return kit. Yeah I dont like the large in tank overflows at all especailly the mega flow since they suck at surface skimming. In tanks just take up way to much room. I would rather drill the back of the tank for a slim ghost overfow.

02/20/2018, 07:34 PM	#1
DesertReefT4r Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Mesa Az Posts: 771	Eclipse M or L? Which over flow for a 75g reef. Return pump is a Jeboa type DC rated around 1000-1320gph at 0 ft 100% power, cant remember the exact rating. At 5ft its about 700 gph ish. So the Eclipse M is large enough and I would use both drains in a modified bean animal. Or would you go for the larger Eclispe L and run a true bean animal. I like the longer overflow box but kind of think 3 drains is to much plumbing going on. __________________ Tank history 29g tropical ,55g cichlid tank, 20H softy reef, 29g mixed reef, 20H brackish goby & puffer tank, 55g mixed reef, 6g Nanocube softy lps reef, 40B sps reef, 75g sps reef, 75g sps reef in bu Current Tank Info: 75g sps reef build in the works.

02/21/2018, 05:59 AM	#2
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	L hands down.. Go bean or go home __________________ Who me?

02/21/2018, 08:51 AM	#3
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Was about to comment that the Vectra L has more quality complaints than the M ...... but then realized you weren't asking about a pump . Definitely go with the Eclipse L. Bean is better than herbie, and it's always good to have a bit of extra capacity (1,000 gph versus 800). __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

02/21/2018, 09:29 AM	#4
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	Its only too much plumbing until that one time it saves you from a flood.. Then its just right __________________ Who me?

02/21/2018, 08:27 PM	#5
DesertReefT4r Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Mesa Az Posts: 771	Ok I will go with the L and do a bean animal drain. 1 full syphon, 1 partial syphon and 1 emergency drain. Anyone know where I can find a return line kit? I want to drill the back of the back of the tank for the return also and I have seen kits that include, diamond hole saw, loc line, bulkhead ect bit can seem to find them. __________________ Tank history 29g tropical ,55g cichlid tank, 20H softy reef, 29g mixed reef, 20H brackish goby & puffer tank, 55g mixed reef, 6g Nanocube softy lps reef, 40B sps reef, 75g sps reef, 75g sps reef in bu Current Tank Info: 75g sps reef build in the works.

02/22/2018, 11:32 AM	#6
LQT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fairfield, CT Posts: 1,516	Glass holes sells return kits with an option to include the hole saw as well. __________________ - Leon (aka - Water Dog) Deep Blue 57 Edge ATI Acro Garden Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25573384#post25573384 Current Tank Info: DeepBlue 57 Edge

02/22/2018, 02:06 PM	#7
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	I was looking at off the shelf overflow boxes recently. I would definitely get the L over the M for a 75 gallon tank, for the reasons stated (Bean, more flow, more surface skimming). It's still only 12" wide though. I see the Synergy has a 16" wide one. Are there wider options? __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

02/22/2018, 02:09 PM	#8
LQT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fairfield, CT Posts: 1,516	Synergy also makes a 20 incher and I believe Modular Marine makes 36 incher and can probably custom make a larger one. __________________ - Leon (aka - Water Dog) Deep Blue 57 Edge ATI Acro Garden Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25573384#post25573384 Current Tank Info: DeepBlue 57 Edge

02/22/2018, 02:22 PM	#9
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	I used the 36" MM on my big tank. Could have gone even wider, but didn't feel like waiting for a custom model. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

02/22/2018, 02:34 PM	#10
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	Thanks, guys. I've been cursing my overflow system lately. I have a 6 foot 125 with those big, hideous megaflow overflows. If I built another tank, I would want one overflow instead of two. It just seems silly to have a long tank with only 16" of skimming with the overflow, but I'm not sure about building a coast to coast in the tank with glass. __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

02/22/2018, 09:02 PM	#11
DesertReefT4r Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Mesa Az Posts: 771	Glass holes yep that was it, fou d it last night. Ordering a 3/4 return kit. Yeah I dont like the large in tank overflows at all especailly the mega flow since they suck at surface skimming. In tanks just take up way to much room. I would rather drill the back of the tank for a slim ghost overfow. __________________ Tank history 29g tropical ,55g cichlid tank, 20H softy reef, 29g mixed reef, 20H brackish goby & puffer tank, 55g mixed reef, 6g Nanocube softy lps reef, 40B sps reef, 75g sps reef, 75g sps reef in bu Current Tank Info: 75g sps reef build in the works.