Halide Q & A - Page 46

ksc · 11/27/2016, 01:32 PM

I don't think they make the xm10k in a 250 mogul base bulb anymore. I tried to find some last year and came up empty.

biecacka · 12/14/2016, 01:15 PM

So what options are ppl using for 10k bulbs?

Corey

AZRippster · 12/14/2016, 01:23 PM

I think I would be willing to try the Hamilton 10K if I were in the market. I know I've been pleased with their 14K.

becon776 · 12/14/2016, 03:38 PM

How do you know if you have an m80 ballast?

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mamadu · 12/20/2016, 03:05 AM

Hi again!
Now I light my tank only metal halide lamps XM 15000K and I like the light. But I'm still in doubt. I read that for the manifestation of all the ATP-coral colors you want to add T5 lamps. But I can not figure out how to arrange them with Lumenbright. Firstly LB bit large for my tank, secondly T5 must have much lower and they will overlap the light from the LBs. In addition, the framework will have to do, and I do not like such a cumbersome structure of the tank. I need advice what to do...

PS: By the way, I have Lumatek ballasts and I did not like how Radium bulbs lights with them. Even in the "Super Lumen" mode I don't see any difference. With magnetic ballasts Vossloh Schwabe the light is much better!

becon776 · 12/21/2016, 07:19 AM

Just switched to phoenix heliarc... all i can say is whoa.
Left side phoenix right side 12 k

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rtague · 12/25/2016, 01:00 PM

Just set an SC aquarium 50g cube with a Hamilton 250w 24" Cebu sun, with my low ceiling basement clearance I can only get the fixture 9" off the water.is this too close or will it work ok.

needyreefer · 12/31/2016, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksc

I don't think they make the xm10k in a 250 mogul base bulb anymore. I tried to find some last year and came up empty.

I also am looking for a suitable replacement for the XM 10K bulb - 250w mogul base. I can't find this bulb anywhere either. Is Hamilton the best bet in terms of color and PAR?

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reefanatik · 01/22/2017, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needyreefer

I also am looking for a suitable replacement for the XM 10K bulb - 250w mogul base. I can't find this bulb anywhere either. Is Hamilton the best bet in terms of color and PAR?

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I've looked everywhere for the XM 10K with no luck. I think I am going to try the Hamilton 10K or 14K in about a month. I will post my results then.

needyreefer · 01/22/2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by reefanatik

I've looked everywhere for the XM 10K with no luck. I think I am going to try the Hamilton 10K or 14K in about a month. I will post my results then.

That would be great. I gave up looking and am now deciding between the Hamilton 10K vs the 10K Ushio.

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reefanatik · 01/22/2017, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needyreefer

That would be great. I gave up looking and am now deciding between the Hamilton 10K vs the 10K Ushio.

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Do you have T5 supplements? I am considering 10k for growth also and using 4 blue+ so it won't look too yellow.

needyreefer · 01/22/2017, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by reefanatik

Do you have T5 supplements? I am considering 10k for growth also and using 4 blue+ so it won't look too yellow.

I'm going to go with two reefbrite XHOs for actinic supplements I think. My biggest concern is that I'll be using a lumenmax elite reflector inside of a "floating/hanging" canopy. The thing has to be mounted so high above the tank that I'm worried the actinics won't be effective that far away from the water.

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Jeremy257 · 02/27/2017, 08:30 PM

How high over the water would you mount a giesemann spectra on a tank that's 31.5" wide?

mnk9569 · 03/04/2017, 10:05 PM

I have a standard 150 and was running 2 Hamilton cayman suns 400w de hqi with 20k bulbs and it penitrated great could grow anything I switched to the ap700 kessil s mainly because I had 2 braces and had shadows if anyone needs some halides I just changed bulbs a week ago

mnk9569 · 03/05/2017, 03:42 PM

Switched over to kessil ap700 s got 2 extra 400w de hqi pendants

mnk9569 · 03/06/2017, 06:54 PM

I was running 2 de hqi pendants on a standard 150 400w with 20k bulbs and everything was doing great I just switched to kessil s and everything doing worse for what ever that helpvtgat is

biecacka · 03/28/2017, 04:27 PM

Anyone know if there is a difference between the radium and Hamilton 20k bulb?

Corey

jda · 03/28/2017, 04:32 PM

They are different. Hamilton is more blue. Radium is more like a 14-15K look.

becon776 · 03/28/2017, 04:36 PM

Halide is king! I am loving the phoenix 14k 250de

midnightmadman · 03/30/2017, 08:40 PM

Can mogul base MH be run vertical?
I was thinking about making some pendants

jda · 03/30/2017, 08:45 PM

Yes, if the reflector is made for it. Most are not.

midnightmadman · 03/30/2017, 08:59 PM

I was thinking of mAking some type of diy pendants
Still not sure. I have them in a canopy now

Yonp11 · 04/04/2017, 01:15 PM

I just got my first MH fixture, the hamilton cebu sun 24" to go over my 93gal cube. I'm currently running a radion.

It will come with the m80 ballast, so I'll be getting a 20k radium.

Question is: what do you guys recommend for the T5 combo? I'm thinking 2xATI Blue, 1xATI Purple plus, 1xATI coral plus?? I'm not sure if that combo is going to be too pink looking.

Also: It looks like from what I've read the MH should only be on for 6 hours or so? Any reason for this, I've always used T5 and LEDs, with a photoperiod of like 8-10 hours.

Thanks!

jda · 04/04/2017, 01:19 PM

I run my MH for 10 hours on/off. I use no T5 or other supplements since I would rather just spend the money on another halide bulb.

The 20K radium will no supplement, so you won't need to choose bulbs to change the look. I would choose bulbs to be in about the 20K range... so what you have is good.

Wuldcard · 04/07/2017, 11:50 AM

Going to re-setup my biocube 29. I have a old PFO 250 watt mh. It has 2 slots for 28 watt axnitc bulbs.
My question is how should I light cycle as its all or nothing. All 3 are on at once.
Should I go with a 20k main bulb and what should i use for the axnitc. Any suggestions are much appreciated.
I am going reef tank with this.

Wyld

03/04/2017, 10:05 PM	#1139
mnk9569 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mixed Posts: 18	Have to agree on wattage I have a standard 150 and was running 2 Hamilton cayman suns 400w de hqi with 20k bulbs and it penitrated great could grow anything I switched to the ap700 kessil s mainly because I had 2 braces and had shadows if anyone needs some halides I just changed bulbs a week ago

03/05/2017, 03:42 PM	#1140
mnk9569 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mixed Posts: 18	If anyone needs any halides just pulled 2 cayman sunscoff my tank Switched over to kessil ap700 s got 2 extra 400w de hqi pendants

03/30/2017, 08:40 PM	#1145
midnightmadman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 223	Position Can mogul base MH be run vertical? I was thinking about making some pendants

04/07/2017, 11:50 AM	#1150
Wuldcard Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 1	Questions about MH set up. Going to re-setup my biocube 29. I have a old PFO 250 watt mh. It has 2 slots for 28 watt axnitc bulbs. My question is how should I light cycle as its all or nothing. All 3 are on at once. Should I go with a 20k main bulb and what should i use for the axnitc. Any suggestions are much appreciated. I am going reef tank with this. Wyld

11/27/2016, 01:32 PM	#1126
ksc Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 415	I don't think they make the xm10k in a 250 mogul base bulb anymore. I tried to find some last year and came up empty.

12/14/2016, 01:15 PM	#1127
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	So what options are ppl using for 10k bulbs? Corey

12/14/2016, 01:23 PM	#1128
AZRippster Diver & Reef Aquarium Nut Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ Posts: 1,127	I think I would be willing to try the Hamilton 10K if I were in the market. I know I've been pleased with their 14K.

12/14/2016, 03:38 PM	#1129
becon776 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Irondequoit, ny Posts: 1,217	How do you know if you have an m80 ballast? Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

12/20/2016, 03:05 AM	#1130
mamadu Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Russian Federation, Moscow Posts: 4	Hi again! Now I light my tank only metal halide lamps XM 15000K and I like the light. But I'm still in doubt. I read that for the manifestation of all the ATP-coral colors you want to add T5 lamps. But I can not figure out how to arrange them with Lumenbright. Firstly LB bit large for my tank, secondly T5 must have much lower and they will overlap the light from the LBs. In addition, the framework will have to do, and I do not like such a cumbersome structure of the tank. I need advice what to do... PS: By the way, I have Lumatek ballasts and I did not like how Radium bulbs lights with them. Even in the "Super Lumen" mode I don't see any difference. With magnetic ballasts Vossloh Schwabe the light is much better!

12/21/2016, 07:19 AM	#1131
becon776 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Irondequoit, ny Posts: 1,217	Just switched to phoenix heliarc... all i can say is whoa. Left side phoenix right side 12 k Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

12/25/2016, 01:00 PM	#1132
rtague Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 376	Just set an SC aquarium 50g cube with a Hamilton 250w 24" Cebu sun, with my low ceiling basement clearance I can only get the fixture 9" off the water.is this too close or will it work ok.

02/27/2017, 08:30 PM	#1138
Jeremy257 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 113	How high over the water would you mount a giesemann spectra on a tank that's 31.5" wide?

03/06/2017, 06:54 PM	#1141
mnk9569 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mixed Posts: 18	I was running 2 de hqi pendants on a standard 150 400w with 20k bulbs and everything was doing great I just switched to kessil s and everything doing worse for what ever that helpvtgat is

03/28/2017, 04:27 PM	#1142
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Anyone know if there is a difference between the radium and Hamilton 20k bulb? Corey

03/28/2017, 04:32 PM	#1143
jda Dogmatic Dinosaur Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 6,256	They are different. Hamilton is more blue. Radium is more like a 14-15K look.

03/28/2017, 04:36 PM	#1144
becon776 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Irondequoit, ny Posts: 1,217	Halide is king! I am loving the phoenix 14k 250de

03/30/2017, 08:45 PM	#1146
jda Dogmatic Dinosaur Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 6,256	Yes, if the reflector is made for it. Most are not.

03/30/2017, 08:59 PM	#1147
midnightmadman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 223	I was thinking of mAking some type of diy pendants Still not sure. I have them in a canopy now

04/04/2017, 01:15 PM	#1148
Yonp11 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 260	I just got my first MH fixture, the hamilton cebu sun 24" to go over my 93gal cube. I'm currently running a radion. It will come with the m80 ballast, so I'll be getting a 20k radium. Question is: what do you guys recommend for the T5 combo? I'm thinking 2xATI Blue, 1xATI Purple plus, 1xATI coral plus?? I'm not sure if that combo is going to be too pink looking. Also: It looks like from what I've read the MH should only be on for 6 hours or so? Any reason for this, I've always used T5 and LEDs, with a photoperiod of like 8-10 hours. Thanks!

04/04/2017, 01:19 PM	#1149
jda Dogmatic Dinosaur Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 6,256	I run my MH for 10 hours on/off. I use no T5 or other supplements since I would rather just spend the money on another halide bulb. The 20K radium will no supplement, so you won't need to choose bulbs to change the look. I would choose bulbs to be in about the 20K range... so what you have is good.