breeding clowns

[17]shawn[17] · 09/11/2006, 02:46 PM

i just lestened to a podcast about breeding clowns just a couple questions

around what size or age do clowns start breeding?

what are rotifers how do i get them ?

what is green water how do i make my own?

Kathy55g · 09/11/2006, 03:08 PM

what podcast? Please give us a link!

Clowns breed sometime after the first year, whenever they want to.
Rotifers are little critters that swim and eat phytoplankton. Phytoplankton is green water. Check the sticky at the top of the forum on micro foods.
Kathy

FishGuttz · 09/11/2006, 03:34 PM

You might want to read these threads too!

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=282136

[17]shawn[17] · 09/11/2006, 04:06 PM

Episode 11
http://www.reefcast.com/downloads.php

Kmiec123 · 09/11/2006, 05:17 PM

Shawn17 Awsome Link...thanks

Kathy55g · 09/11/2006, 09:29 PM

Just listened to the reefcast.
TippytoesX is a breeder, but the other two are doing a lot of talking, and not necessarily knowing what they are talking about.....I hope you all do not think they are experts. Get your info from this forum instead.

MimicTang · 09/12/2006, 12:09 PM

Get Joyce's book if you want info it's AWESOME!!!! Lots of pictures on how to build and setup stuff too.

MimicTang · 09/12/2006, 12:15 PM

Answers to your questions

around what size or age do clowns start breeding?
They can be all different sizes from 1" to 6"

what are rotifers how do i get them ?

rotifers are very small part of zooplankton they live 8days and reproduce a couple times a day they're asexual but can be sexual if your water is bad

what is green water how do i make my own?

You need an algae culture,its algae

In all honesty get Joyce's book. Its $20 bucks off amazon.com and answers all these questions an more.

Kathy55g · 09/12/2006, 01:03 PM

hmmm

You sure rotifers only live 8 days and all reproduce a couple of times daily?

Cause I have read from Reed Mariculture's website (if I remember corectly) that they live 11 days, only 3-4 of which do the females produce eggs. Where are you getting your information? Have you worked with rotifers before?

Kathy55g · 09/12/2006, 01:17 PM

OK, now you've done it....I had to look it up:

from www.rotifer.com:

Rotifers are small (100-300 micron) zooplankton that exist in freshwater, brackish, and marine environments. Rotifers feed on microalgae and are consumed by a wide variety of fish, shellfish, corals, and other filter feeding organism.

Rotifers are used extensively in aquaculture and aquariums because of their super high reproductive rates (doubling or better every 24 hours), ease of culturing, optimal size for larval fish, and nutritional profile.

In a healthy culture all the rotifers will be females and will reproduce clonally. In a stressed environment males will be produced and the rotifers will reproduce sexually and create encysted eggs. Under optimal conditions a rotifer culture will double in volume every day.

The life span of a marine rotifer is 7 to 12 days. They have very high metabolisms and empty their guts and need to eat every 4 hours.

The most commonly used marine rotifers are the species Brachionus plicatilis ("L" type) and Brachionus rotundiformis ("S" and "SS") types.

More than you wanted to know.

Kathy55g · 09/12/2006, 01:21 PM

They say "double in volume", but they mean double in number. Reproducing females can have many eggs at once, but only a fraction of the population is reproducing. Old rots don't replicate.

Kathy55g · 09/12/2006, 01:24 PM

Any 1" breeding pairs out there?

I think they need to be bigger, at least if they are ocellaris.

MimicTang · 09/12/2006, 02:17 PM

i was sold 2 pairs of mated and they where small but they never spawned

Kathy55g · 09/12/2006, 04:02 PM

Oh, I see.

"Mated pair" means they probably won't kill each other. Not that they will breed or have bred. Hope you did not pay a premium for these.

"Breeding pair" means they have laid eggs.

evilfrog · 09/12/2006, 08:05 PM

so what does TRUE pair supposed to mean?

Kathy55g · 09/12/2006, 09:15 PM

your guess is as good as mine!

09/11/2006, 02:46 PM	#1
[17]shawn[17] Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brockville Ontario Canada Posts: 844	breeding clowns i just lestened to a podcast about breeding clowns just a couple questions around what size or age do clowns start breeding? what are rotifers how do i get them ? what is green water how do i make my own? __________________ shawn “We will only conserve what we love. We will only love what we understand. We will only understand what we are taught.”

09/11/2006, 04:06 PM	#4
[17]shawn[17] Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brockville Ontario Canada Posts: 844	Episode 11 http://www.reefcast.com/downloads.php __________________ shawn “We will only conserve what we love. We will only love what we understand. We will only understand what we are taught.”

09/11/2006, 05:17 PM	#5
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09/11/2006, 03:08 PM	#2
Kathy55g Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,249	what podcast? Please give us a link! Clowns breed sometime after the first year, whenever they want to. Rotifers are little critters that swim and eat phytoplankton. Phytoplankton is green water. Check the sticky at the top of the forum on micro foods. Kathy

09/11/2006, 03:34 PM	#3
FishGuttz Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC-- Posts: 173	You might want to read these threads too! http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=282136

09/11/2006, 09:29 PM	#6
Kathy55g Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,249	Just listened to the reefcast. TippytoesX is a breeder, but the other two are doing a lot of talking, and not necessarily knowing what they are talking about.....I hope you all do not think they are experts. Get your info from this forum instead.

09/12/2006, 12:09 PM	#7
MimicTang Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hartford CT Posts: 1,517	Get Joyce's book if you want info it's AWESOME!!!! Lots of pictures on how to build and setup stuff too.

09/12/2006, 12:15 PM	#8
MimicTang Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hartford CT Posts: 1,517	Answers to your questions around what size or age do clowns start breeding? They can be all different sizes from 1" to 6" what are rotifers how do i get them ? rotifers are very small part of zooplankton they live 8days and reproduce a couple times a day they're asexual but can be sexual if your water is bad what is green water how do i make my own? You need an algae culture,its algae In all honesty get Joyce's book. Its $20 bucks off amazon.com and answers all these questions an more.

09/12/2006, 01:03 PM	#9
Kathy55g Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,249	hmmm You sure rotifers only live 8 days and all reproduce a couple of times daily? Cause I have read from Reed Mariculture's website (if I remember corectly) that they live 11 days, only 3-4 of which do the females produce eggs. Where are you getting your information? Have you worked with rotifers before?

09/12/2006, 01:17 PM	#10
Kathy55g Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,249	OK, now you've done it....I had to look it up: from www.rotifer.com: Rotifers are small (100-300 micron) zooplankton that exist in freshwater, brackish, and marine environments. Rotifers feed on microalgae and are consumed by a wide variety of fish, shellfish, corals, and other filter feeding organism. Rotifers are used extensively in aquaculture and aquariums because of their super high reproductive rates (doubling or better every 24 hours), ease of culturing, optimal size for larval fish, and nutritional profile. In a healthy culture all the rotifers will be females and will reproduce clonally. In a stressed environment males will be produced and the rotifers will reproduce sexually and create encysted eggs. Under optimal conditions a rotifer culture will double in volume every day. The life span of a marine rotifer is 7 to 12 days. They have very high metabolisms and empty their guts and need to eat every 4 hours. The most commonly used marine rotifers are the species Brachionus plicatilis ("L" type) and Brachionus rotundiformis ("S" and "SS") types. More than you wanted to know.

09/12/2006, 01:21 PM	#11
Kathy55g Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,249	They say "double in volume", but they mean double in number. Reproducing females can have many eggs at once, but only a fraction of the population is reproducing. Old rots don't replicate.

09/12/2006, 01:24 PM	#12
Kathy55g Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,249	Any 1" breeding pairs out there? I think they need to be bigger, at least if they are ocellaris.

09/12/2006, 02:17 PM	#13
MimicTang Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hartford CT Posts: 1,517	i was sold 2 pairs of mated and they where small but they never spawned

09/12/2006, 04:02 PM	#14
Kathy55g Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,249	Oh, I see. "Mated pair" means they probably won't kill each other. Not that they will breed or have bred. Hope you did not pay a premium for these. "Breeding pair" means they have laid eggs.

09/12/2006, 08:05 PM	#15
evilfrog Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: clearwater,FL Posts: 51	so what does TRUE pair supposed to mean?

09/12/2006, 09:15 PM	#16
Kathy55g Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,249	your guess is as good as mine!