Blue ringed octopus

[Gonodactylus]

Other animals from the same habitats have, so it is certainly possible.

Roy

[Brock Fluharty]

Conditions would have to be pretty darn near exact to its native waters. Cephalopods are more sensitive than most fish. I also think that the short life-span might inhibit the invasiveness, but I could be wrong.

[shovel]

there would most likley be a need for several blue rings to be relesed into the wild for the chances of survival since their size makes them easy prey targets. but i would say if relesed into the carriben it could happen

[Gonodactylus]

Most H. lunulata shipped into the U.S. are sexually mature adults and many have mated and the females carry the sperm of one or more males. We get females laying fertilized eggs weeks after arriving in the lab and with no contact with males. Were such a female released, she easily could reproduce. However, with planktonic larvae, it is unlikely that her offspring would ever encounter another blue-ring. However, were a big-egged species with demersal larvae successfully brood, her offspring would probably remain in the area and could breed. There would be the problem of inbreeding, but inbreeding is not an automatic death sentence and many successful colonizations start with a single female carrying the sperm of one or more males reproducing.

Big egged species such as H. fasciatus occur over a fairly wide range of temperate conditions that are similar to those found in the southeastern U.S. It is conceivable that an introduction could occur.

Roy

[sacremon]

I think for species to make it on that list, not only does it need to be an invasive species, but it needs to have some economic impact as a result of the invasion. Snakeheads and walking catfish kill food fishes. The mitten crab can damage rice crops. zebra muscles can clog industrial water intakes and lead to high pollutant levels in fish that eat them.

What would be the economic impact of H. fasciatus becoming entrenched in US waters?

[Brock Fluharty]

Roy simply said that an introduction could occur. Not necessarily an invasion.

[Koshmar]

The only problem is you won't know for sure until it actually happens. I was just curious to see if it would survive. If it ever does happen I bet it will be off the Florida coast. It's always Florida...

[stumpovrtyme]

Im not sure if they would survive or not but Im amazed you can even get them considering there one of the most poisones creatures on the planet. I also think that why there so cheap because who really want something that could kill you? Yea it would be awsome to have one but could you really enjoy it? you coulndt touch it or interact with it which is sort of the allure of the octopuss. I look at it like this an moorish idol is fairly cheap but most reefer and aquarists dont buy them cause they dont live. So you make them cheaper to keep people wanting them same as the octo. Well I might die or it might but its only $20.00.

[t4zalews]

someone should man up and get one so we can see pictures

[shovel]

have had one for two weeks now it is doing well in own tank, sorry dont do pictures but trust me it was worth the tweny eight bucks.

[stumpovrtyme]

You sure its a blue ring? Do you hold it and stuff? Does it hide alot?

[shovel]

yes im sure it is a blue ring, no I don't hold it it is posieness, yes it hides a lot however, I arranged the rock work so that he is visable at all times.

[Thomas McCallie]

The laws on venomus and exotic animals are state not federal. All you need in most states to buy a venomus animal is an ID stating that you are 18. I can go to a reptile show in SC and get anything from a copper head to a gabon viper. I don't have to sign any paper work, just hand them the money and it is done. Not that I agree with this. It is amazing all the idiots who have no idea what these animals could do to them. Just my .02

[scottallert]

i think my lfs is going to get shutdown because of a lawsuit that got for having one.

[Thales]

Originally posted by scottallert
i think my lfs is going to get shutdown because of a lawsuit that got for having one.

Any links to any documentation on the case?

[scottallert]

no, it just happened this week or so, i dont know if there is any final words on whats happening, the lfs deserves it anyways they are cheap liars and will lie about anything just to get you to buy something

[Thales]

Can you tell us what the lawsuit is about?

[nayrgaijin]

Thales from tonmo !
Smart person right there guys, he'll correct you in a heartbeat just as shown

[Chad Vossen]

Originally posted by shovel
it is leagel to own and posses them as long as thy are properly documented. if you purchase one from reputible source they are, and your info should be taken down. I learned this from my local reptile distributor and i am going by his word alone I trust his opion and what he states as law. There is no way that i am going to try to travk down the case law to prove it to much reading not worth the time. as long as everything is legit as far as importation and registaring there should be no problem Gonodactylus you reasearched it well and there should bo no issue on your animals. however if you are to sell it or trade it whatever then there is a problem, like handguns as long as they are registerd there leagel but if sold proper paper work should be filled out. Like i said before I'am takeing the words of my local reptile store I do consider his words to be true and am useing his words alone for my source. Last and most important I must see pics of those blue rings in your tank must be stunning to have such a buetiful animal!

this varies by state. also applies to reptiles and not the marine hobby.

i know in MN, you cant keep venomous snakes. but in SC, you can buy cobras from a few stores. i know of a store that used to have a king cobra for sale. the HOT reptile show in SC has large numbers of dangerous animals for sale, and im sure you only need to be 18 or older to buy something.

some states this would be highly illegal.

[shovel]

^^^^^we adressed this like two pages ago

[crabbypatty]

I love it it's so cool. What do you guys feed yours an how? Did you ever touch it? Were you scared when you got it.

[crabbypatty]

hi don't touch the blue ring . I was kidding with thet question. heck don't walk up to the tank unless you see it in their. That's what I do.

[shovel]

altough I was tempted to at least touch its head, logic dictatded that i did not. as for feeding I started with dead shrimp, it was not a fan \, so I gave it a live pepermint worth the 3$ every time! been trying the shrimp in a jar thing just lid on a little then every time it gets a 1/4 turn. and the way I have his tank setup I can see himm at all times.

[crabbypatty]

I grew up in Rochester, moved up here to get away from the traffic. anyway mine is eating mysis shrimp grabs it as it swirls . I have been putting snails into his tank lately. Shrimp was a good idea on your part just to get him to eat "good one" I didn't acclimate mine because the process wasn't safe . did you? mine light up pretty good . he seems pretty peaceful over all. My kids love him they think its the coolest thing ever.

[shovel]

the hunt for a octopuss is so cool