Cool Fish on Diver's Den - Page 104

Haley · 11/03/2017, 11:38 AM

I've actually been pretty impressed with the amount of Captive-Bred angelfish that have started to pop up on there! I know a flame angel in general might not register as cool&rare as the gem tang, but I love what captive breeding developments might mean in the long run (especially with rarer angels like the japanese pygmy)!! They even have a CB Blue Ring Angel!

humaguy · 11/03/2017, 12:54 PM

Bradley's are doing great

MMacro · 11/03/2017, 04:42 PM

Captive Bred Borbonious anthias are on the update list!

d-man · 11/04/2017, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

WayneL is the only one I know that has kept some alive for any considerable amount of time. Jordan (amongthereef) got them for him and he had them for 6-8 months before breaking down his tank.

Yeah Sanjay has had his fir a few yrs. a buddy of mine has his for going on 7 months now. And I got a large one for someone who seems to be doing really well as well

brett559 · 11/06/2017, 01:42 PM

Lennard's Wrasse today!

Wonder what the price will be...

humaguy · 11/06/2017, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Haley

I've actually been pretty impressed with the amount of Captive-Bred angelfish that have started to pop up on there! I know a flame angel in general might not register as cool&rare as the gem tang, but I love what captive breeding developments might mean in the long run (especially with rarer angels like the japanese pygmy)!! They even have a CB Blue Ring Angel!

I agree, great stuff, thanks!

Ted

brett559 · 11/06/2017, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brett559

Lennard's Wrasse today!

Wonder what the price will be...

Huh? Only $800. Show's what I know....
http://www.liveaquaria.com/divers-de.../3/marine-fish

Dmorty217 · 11/06/2017, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brett559

Huh? Only $800. Show's what I know....
http://www.liveaquaria.com/divers-de.../3/marine-fish

Could buy 3 for that price, maybe 4...

JustinM · 11/06/2017, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

Could buy 3 for that price, maybe 4...

Are you saying you can buy 3 Lennardi’s for $800?

Dmorty217 · 11/06/2017, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinM

Are you saying you can buy 3 Lennardi’s for $800?

Not juveniles, but yes.

JustinM · 11/06/2017, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

Not juveniles, but yes.

Send me their way haha

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LobsterOfJustice · 11/07/2017, 12:42 PM

Anyone got a coupon code for November?

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Sonicblast12 · 11/08/2017, 01:48 PM

The CB angels seem to do really well. Worth the extra money IMO.

Dmorty217 · 11/23/2017, 09:16 AM

Does anyone know if Liveaquaria/DD is running any promos on Black Friday for fish?

Dmorty217 · 11/24/2017, 07:07 AM

To answer my own question, they have 20% any purchase of $199+ today only

pfan151 · 11/24/2017, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

To answer my own question, they have 20% any purchase of $199+ today only

Also $50 gift card with $125 spent

kilroy217 · 11/24/2017, 05:01 PM

http://www.liveaquaria.com/divers-de...otched-anthias

Captive Bred Borbonius $549 - beautiful, but worth that much money?

Dmorty217 · 11/24/2017, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kilroy217

http://www.liveaquaria.com/divers-de...otched-anthias

Captive Bred Borbonius $549 - beautiful, but worth that much money?

Not at all. When you're the only one who "conditions" fish for a minimum of 2 weeks before selling, you can charge whatever you want. Their guarantee is next to none which also helps tremendously.

saf1 · 11/24/2017, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

Not at all. When you're the only one who "conditions" fish for a minimum of 2 weeks before selling, you can charge whatever you want. Their guarantee is next to none which also helps tremendously.

I didn't know about that guarantee. Then again I typically do not mail order fish (but that is going to change after seeing this post). Thanks.

Unrelated maybe but I don't understand the pricing. Not so much vs. captive bred but just in general. I am building a wish list for my 240 gallon and trying to find some Angel's that are reef save but maybe something I've seen while diving in Hawaii or Japan. I came across a Masked Swallowtail Angelfish which I believe is reef safe and they are offering it for around 200 dollars (Philippians) but another source is 55 to 66 dollars (female/male) but indo pacific.

So a bit confused what the difference is outside of location. Is that handled better, caught, shipped, color, or?

d-man · 11/24/2017, 09:36 PM

No, it's insane at that price. Yes, it's captive bred which supposedly makes them hardier, but holy crap, that's a lot

ca1ore · 11/24/2017, 09:50 PM

I think part of the premium for captive bred/raised is novelty and 'conscience easing'. I don't doubt that the cost is higher versus somebody going out with a net. Never been much of a borbonius fan ...... fortunately

Wow, autocorrect does not like the word borbonius .... Had to fix it three times

Dmorty217 · 11/24/2017, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saf1

I didn't know about that guarantee. Then again I typically do not mail order fish (but that is going to change after seeing this post). Thanks.

Unrelated maybe but I don't understand the pricing. Not so much vs. captive bred but just in general. I am building a wish list for my 240 gallon and trying to find some Angel's that are reef save but maybe something I've seen while diving in Hawaii or Japan. I came across a Masked Swallowtail Angelfish which I believe is reef safe and they are offering it for around 200 dollars (Philippians) but another source is 55 to 66 dollars (female/male) but indo pacific.

So a bit confused what the difference is outside of location. Is that handled better, caught, shipped, color, or?

Where it originates from, what wholesaler get the fish (there are plenty of them but only a few are good just like everything else in life) Quality Marine is among the best as far as quality goes and Liveaquaria stocklist is tied to theirs. I have been buying fish for the past 17 years from them and always prefer online saltwater fish sources to LFS.

saf1 · 11/25/2017, 10:18 AM

@Dmorty217 - thanks.

Bobbitworm13 · 11/25/2017, 11:19 AM

I wish they would get more red bandtail waspfish, they had a lot last year but none so far this year, been wanting one for a while now

pfan151 · 11/25/2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

I think part of the premium for captive bred/raised is novelty and 'conscience easing'. I don't doubt that the cost is higher versus somebody going out with a net. Never been much of a borbonius fan ...... fortunately

Wow, autocorrect does not like the word borbonius .... Had to fix it three times

I think you are right on the novelty aspect. Of course I expect them to be more but some things are just outside the amount of being reasonable. Somehow they manage to captive breed damsels and sell them for $10. I can’t imagine it’s all that much more costly to raise the other fish that are captive bred. Part of the crazy high price is probably the DD upcharge too. But it seems to be working because it already sold. No point lowering the prices when they sell in less than a day.

I recently had a chance to buy a couple captive bred blue line angels. I think it was the first time they were offered. I really wanted to grab captive bred ones but I couldn’t make myself pay the $500 each they were going to cost. And even then, $500 for a blue line angel is much more reasonable than $550 for a blotched anthias IMO.

11/03/2017, 04:42 PM	#2578
MMacro Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,442	Captive Bred Borbonious anthias are on the update list! __________________ 155 Mixed Reef (48x31x24) Last edited by MMacro; 11/24/2017 at 02:20 PM.

11/07/2017, 12:42 PM	#2587
LobsterOfJustice Recovering Detritophobe Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 7,443	Anyone got a coupon code for November? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I remember when zoanthids were called things like "green" and "orange" and not "reverse gorilla nipple." Current Tank Info: 180g reef with all the bells and whistles

11/23/2017, 09:16 AM	#2589
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	Does anyone know if Liveaquaria/DD is running any promos on Black Friday for fish? __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

11/24/2017, 07:07 AM	#2590
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	To answer my own question, they have 20% any purchase of $199+ today only __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

11/24/2017, 09:50 PM	#2596
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	I think part of the premium for captive bred/raised is novelty and 'conscience easing'. I don't doubt that the cost is higher versus somebody going out with a net. Never been much of a borbonius fan ...... fortunately Wow, autocorrect does not like the word borbonius .... Had to fix it three times __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

11/03/2017, 11:38 AM	#2576
Haley Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 36	I've actually been pretty impressed with the amount of Captive-Bred angelfish that have started to pop up on there! I know a flame angel in general might not register as cool&rare as the gem tang, but I love what captive breeding developments might mean in the long run (especially with rarer angels like the japanese pygmy)!! They even have a CB Blue Ring Angel!

11/03/2017, 12:54 PM	#2577
humaguy Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Ct, NYC Posts: 8,218	Bradley's are doing great

11/06/2017, 01:42 PM	#2580
brett559 In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 1,790	Lennard's Wrasse today! Wonder what the price will be...

11/08/2017, 01:48 PM	#2588
Sonicblast12 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 533	The CB angels seem to do really well. Worth the extra money IMO.

11/24/2017, 05:01 PM	#2592
kilroy217 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 834	http://www.liveaquaria.com/divers-de...otched-anthias Captive Bred Borbonius $549 - beautiful, but worth that much money?

11/24/2017, 09:36 PM	#2595
d-man Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego, ca Posts: 2,732	No, it's insane at that price. Yes, it's captive bred which supposedly makes them hardier, but holy crap, that's a lot

11/25/2017, 10:18 AM	#2598
saf1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: California Posts: 2,259	@Dmorty217 - thanks. __________________ -saf1 Current Tank Info: 210 gallon mixed reef

11/25/2017, 11:19 AM	#2599
Bobbitworm13 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Russell Springs, KY Posts: 330	I wish they would get more red bandtail waspfish, they had a lot last year but none so far this year, been wanting one for a while now