Pomacanthus maculosus

SDguy · 11/14/2014, 06:55 PM

Who keeps one?

For how long?

How big do they get?

Other comments?

TIA

pktech · 11/14/2014, 08:09 PM

While you're waiting for answers, how about a Juvi Blue face? I have one in qt right now & it's pretty cool... U want the Mac for the 240?

caribfan · 11/14/2014, 09:54 PM

My only comment is that I believe there are two variants, one with a white band and one with a golf band. I might be wrong on that though.

griseum · 11/14/2014, 11:00 PM

I've had one for 2 years roughly. Grew up from a 3.5-4" Adult Color form, to now 8-9" roughly!
Spent all his life in the shark pond and only QT/Hospitalized in aquaria. A Catshark bit out a huge portion of dorsal fin and flesh. Fungal and bacterial infection had started. I was shocked when the treatment was complete and the angel was eating with gust less than 2 weeks later.
So in saying that, they are super hardy and I've heard other owners call them "bulletproof".
He's grown quickly. In two years double his length and width. Strong fish that holds his own in an aggressive environment but doesn't bother the other fish at all. I believe that is a space issue.

SDguy · 11/15/2014, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by griseum

I've had one for 2 years roughly. Grew up from a 3.5-4" Adult Color form, to now 8-9" roughly!
Spent all his life in the shark pond and only QT/Hospitalized in aquaria. A Catshark bit out a huge portion of dorsal fin and flesh. Fungal and bacterial infection had started. I was shocked when the treatment was complete and the angel was eating with gust less than 2 weeks later.
So in saying that, they are super hardy and I've heard other owners call them "bulletproof".
He's grown quickly. In two years double his length and width. Strong fish that holds his own in an aggressive environment but doesn't bother the other fish at all. I believe that is a space issue.

I have a juvi in QT. He's super shy... freaks out every time I walk into the kitchen (the PVC tube is his best friend

). Yes, hoping he'll be my one really large angel in the 240. If he gets too big, the casino aquariums around here will take him. I was hoping he keeps his shy attitude

SDguy · 11/15/2014, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pktech

While you're waiting for answers, how about a Juvi Blue face? I have one in qt right now & it's pretty cool... U want the Mac for the 240?

I've read that blue faces are quite mean as adults, and I doubt it would go well with my large meredithi.

SDguy · 11/15/2014, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by caribfan

My only comment is that I believe there are two variants, one with a white band and one with a golf band. I might be wrong on that though.

You are correct. Asfurs also come in white or yellow forms. I got a regular wild caught yellow mac. I know they used to have CB ones, but haven't seen those in a while....

moriarty · 11/15/2014, 09:13 AM

Congratulations on your new maculosus!! I've had mine for about a year, and she is hands down one of my favorite fish. Got her from DD at about 3" and she's grown to just over 6". She was in a 120 for most of that time before I moved her to my pool a couple months ago. She's always been a very shy fish, and spends most of the time in or near the rocks. Even though she was the first angel in my system, she has never shown any sort of aggression to other fish - including other angels, and has never had any aggression directed toward her.

Because of my top down system, and the fact that she's quite shy, it's tough to get good pics of her (I'll keep trying and post should one turn out a little better), but here is her DD pic from a year ago (I guess I can be a little sentimental when it comes to my fish and keep all of their DD pics), and one of her in a favorite hiding spot.

SDguy · 11/15/2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

Congratulations on your new maculosus!! I've had mine for about a year, and she is hands down one of my favorite fish. Got her from DD at about 3" and she's grown to just over 6". She was in a 120 for most of that time before I moved her to my pool a couple months ago. She's always been a very shy fish, and spends most of the time in or near the rocks. Even though she was the first angel in my system, she has never shown any sort of aggression to other fish - including other angels, and has never had any aggression directed toward her.

Because of my top down system, and the fact that she's quite shy, it's tough to get good pics of her (I'll keep trying and post should one turn out a little better), but here is her DD pic from a year ago (I guess I can be a little sentimental when it comes to my fish and keep all of their DD pics), and one of her in a favorite hiding spot.

Thank you for the info! Beautiful fish you have there....

caribfan · 11/15/2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SDguy

You are correct. Asfurs also come in white or yellow forms. I got a regular wild caught yellow mac. I know they used to have CB ones, but haven't seen those in a while....

Interesting, just saw them on a wholesale list for ridiculously cheap money.

moriarty · 11/15/2014, 10:09 AM

Thank you! Yours as well! Is that the one that was on DD recently? From the video, yours seems very similar to mine in terms of behavior, which is a little contradictory to almost everything I've read (outgoing, pushy, always out in the open, aggressive toward tankmates, etc...). I have to admit that I'm a bit jealous that you get to watch yours transition to adult coloration! Mine is just about there, however the yellow band is still fully connected to the dorsal.

SDguy · 11/15/2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

Thank you! Yours as well! Is that the one that was on DD recently? From the video, yours seems very similar to mine in terms of behavior, which is a little contradictory to almost everything I've read (outgoing, pushy, always out in the open, aggressive toward tankmates, etc...). I have to admit that I'm a bit jealous that you get to watch yours transition to adult coloration! Mine is just about there, however the yellow band is still fully connected to the dorsal.

Thanks, yes, it is.

And thanks for your info... I actually haven't read anything about them being mean or nice, to be honest. I don't think a lot of people keep this fish.

griseum · 11/15/2014, 03:44 PM

Gorgeous fish!
I'll also add, mine is very shy as well. Hides when she sees me standing around.

SDguy · 11/15/2014, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by griseum

Gorgeous fish!
I'll also add, mine is very shy as well. Hides when she sees me standing around.

Thanks for the info. How long have you had her?

griseum · 11/15/2014, 07:37 PM

Wish I could be more exact, but after scouring the videos I have uploaded, I see her pop up in a video from April 5th, 2013. So between a year and a half and two years. I believe I picked her up locally in an LFS after an Africa shipment came in, in the Winter 2012-2013.

SDguy · 11/15/2014, 07:43 PM

Wonderful... thanks to all for the info. Hopefully more mac keepers see this thread

moriarty · 12/03/2014, 04:33 PM

Just wanted to give this thread a bump and see how your Mac is doing. Any updates?

SDguy · 12/03/2014, 04:48 PM

She's doing well. I bit of lympho on the pectoral fins, and still super shy, but eats well. Still in QT.

SDguy · 12/03/2014, 05:48 PM

Thanks for asking, BTW! How's yours doing?

moriarty · 12/03/2014, 07:06 PM

She's doing well! Shy as ever, although shyness is not necessarily a bad thing with an angel that can reach her potential adult size. It may take her a bit longer than the rest of my fish to get used to the new aquascaping though.

griseum · 12/04/2014, 10:47 AM

Peter- if I am not mistaken, don't you have a gorgeous Asfur angel?
I believe it was you that inspired me to purchase one!
Despite their similarities in appearance, they are two very different personalities! The Asfur has been a bully and pugnacious from literally the moment it was introduced. He's been removed, into an observation tank while I figure out what was the cause of his injuries.

Perhaps I missed your most recent stock list changes...

SDguy · 12/04/2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by griseum

Peter- if I am not mistaken, don't you have a gorgeous Asfur angel?
I believe it was you that inspired me to purchase one!
Despite their similarities in appearance, they are two very different personalities! The Asfur has been a bully and pugnacious from literally the moment it was introduced. He's been removed, into an observation tank while I figure out what was the cause of his injuries.

Perhaps I missed your most recent stock list changes...

I removed him. As much as I LOVE those fish, he was a bit of a bully as you describe, yet shy and rarely out and about. Add that to a black back tank, and meh, not worth the bioload

pinnatus · 12/04/2014, 05:08 PM

My Asfur was a butt too. I removed him because he was a bully to my Moorish Idol.

SDguy · 12/05/2014, 04:02 PM

Looks like a smaller mac will be hitting LADD today.

Winwood · 12/05/2014, 06:13 PM

I keep a 10" mac in an account tank, and it is definitely the boss. It chases fish from time to time but not bad. They become more personable as they age and aren't near as shy as asfurs once they get a little size to them. My prediction by judging the width of the rest of your fish is you'll have a very large fish in short order, as they do grow fast.

11/14/2014, 06:55 PM	#1
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Pomacanthus maculosus Who keeps one? For how long? How big do they get? Other comments? TIA __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

11/14/2014, 09:54 PM	#3
caribfan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,922	My only comment is that I believe there are two variants, one with a white band and one with a golf band. I might be wrong on that though. __________________ Matt Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder Quarantine Tank, 240 Miracles Finally up and running, 29 Biocube - AI Nano

11/15/2014, 07:43 PM	#16
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Wonderful... thanks to all for the info. Hopefully more mac keepers see this thread __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

12/03/2014, 04:48 PM	#18
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	She's doing well. I bit of lympho on the pectoral fins, and still super shy, but eats well. Still in QT. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

12/03/2014, 05:48 PM	#19
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Thanks for asking, BTW! How's yours doing? __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

11/14/2014, 08:09 PM	#2
pktech Thread Ender Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: new jersey Posts: 915	While you're waiting for answers, how about a Juvi Blue face? I have one in qt right now & it's pretty cool... U want the Mac for the 240?

11/14/2014, 11:00 PM	#4
griseum Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 823	I've had one for 2 years roughly. Grew up from a 3.5-4" Adult Color form, to now 8-9" roughly! Spent all his life in the shark pond and only QT/Hospitalized in aquaria. A Catshark bit out a huge portion of dorsal fin and flesh. Fungal and bacterial infection had started. I was shocked when the treatment was complete and the angel was eating with gust less than 2 weeks later. So in saying that, they are super hardy and I've heard other owners call them "bulletproof". He's grown quickly. In two years double his length and width. Strong fish that holds his own in an aggressive environment but doesn't bother the other fish at all. I believe that is a space issue.

11/15/2014, 09:13 AM	#8
moriarty Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 521	Congratulations on your new maculosus!! I've had mine for about a year, and she is hands down one of my favorite fish. Got her from DD at about 3" and she's grown to just over 6". She was in a 120 for most of that time before I moved her to my pool a couple months ago. She's always been a very shy fish, and spends most of the time in or near the rocks. Even though she was the first angel in my system, she has never shown any sort of aggression to other fish - including other angels, and has never had any aggression directed toward her. Because of my top down system, and the fact that she's quite shy, it's tough to get good pics of her (I'll keep trying and post should one turn out a little better), but here is her DD pic from a year ago (I guess I can be a little sentimental when it comes to my fish and keep all of their DD pics), and one of her in a favorite hiding spot.

11/15/2014, 10:09 AM	#11
moriarty Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 521	Thank you! Yours as well! Is that the one that was on DD recently? From the video, yours seems very similar to mine in terms of behavior, which is a little contradictory to almost everything I've read (outgoing, pushy, always out in the open, aggressive toward tankmates, etc...). I have to admit that I'm a bit jealous that you get to watch yours transition to adult coloration! Mine is just about there, however the yellow band is still fully connected to the dorsal.

11/15/2014, 03:44 PM	#13
griseum Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 823	Gorgeous fish! I'll also add, mine is very shy as well. Hides when she sees me standing around.

11/15/2014, 07:37 PM	#15
griseum Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 823	Wish I could be more exact, but after scouring the videos I have uploaded, I see her pop up in a video from April 5th, 2013. So between a year and a half and two years. I believe I picked her up locally in an LFS after an Africa shipment came in, in the Winter 2012-2013.

12/03/2014, 04:33 PM	#17
moriarty Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 521	Just wanted to give this thread a bump and see how your Mac is doing. Any updates?

12/03/2014, 07:06 PM	#20
moriarty Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 521	She's doing well! Shy as ever, although shyness is not necessarily a bad thing with an angel that can reach her potential adult size. It may take her a bit longer than the rest of my fish to get used to the new aquascaping though.

12/04/2014, 10:47 AM	#21
griseum Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 823	Peter- if I am not mistaken, don't you have a gorgeous Asfur angel? I believe it was you that inspired me to purchase one! Despite their similarities in appearance, they are two very different personalities! The Asfur has been a bully and pugnacious from literally the moment it was introduced. He's been removed, into an observation tank while I figure out what was the cause of his injuries. Perhaps I missed your most recent stock list changes...

12/04/2014, 05:08 PM	#23
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	My Asfur was a butt too. I removed him because he was a bully to my Moorish Idol. __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns

12/05/2014, 04:02 PM	#24
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Looks like a smaller mac will be hitting LADD today. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

12/05/2014, 06:13 PM	#25
Winwood Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Corvallis, Oregon Posts: 1,689	I keep a 10" mac in an account tank, and it is definitely the boss. It chases fish from time to time but not bad. They become more personable as they age and aren't near as shy as asfurs once they get a little size to them. My prediction by judging the width of the rest of your fish is you'll have a very large fish in short order, as they do grow fast.