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Unread 10/10/2018, 07:16 PM   #1
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Best UV Sterilizer w Eheim 1262 Return

Guys....

I am looking for the best UV Sterilizer for my return line. I am running an Eheim 1262 Pump - 125+30 sump.

I am looking at the Corallife Turbo Twist 36W... I am hoping for Stage 2 capability.

What ideas do you have?

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Unread 10/10/2018, 09:21 PM   #2
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I'd say the 40w Aqua UV or Emperor Aquatics.
There was a thread about the Coralife UV's rusting inside and Coralife knowing about it but not fixing or changing their design.


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Unread 10/10/2018, 09:51 PM   #3
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Can't recommend Aqua UV units enough. I've got 3 of them on my system and they are built like tanks.


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Unread 10/11/2018, 10:45 AM   #4
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AquaUV,nothing better.
Spend the extra money upfront, you'll be glad you did.


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Unread 10/16/2018, 09:55 PM   #5
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Thank you guys...

Is the Eheim too powerful to run through it on a return line?

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Unread 10/17/2018, 01:09 AM   #6
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Having too much flow is never a problem. Just put a ball valve on the output of the pump and dial the GPH to whatever you want. You can test the GPH by having the output go (temporarily) into a 5 gallon bucket and then time how long it takes to fill. The pump will be completely fine with its output reduced by a ball valve, to the pump it is just having a little extra head pressure.


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Unread 10/20/2018, 12:06 AM   #7
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Like others have said Aqua UV or Emperor.

Keys to a good UV...

-Close contact with bulb (skinny and long design) through a quartz sleeve.
-T5 style bulb
-Wiper

For the record, the turbo twist is a marketing gimmick. The twist reduces contact time.


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Unread 10/22/2018, 10:22 PM   #8
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Last thought...

2" or 3/4" Aqua UV???

Right now I have a 1" return line. The 3/4 would seem to work better. A 2" return seems far too large... although it could "slow flow" more in the UV housing I suppose...

Best bet is 3/4 right?

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Unread 10/22/2018, 10:31 PM   #9
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Last thought...

2" or 3/4" Aqua UV???

Right now I have a 1" return line. The 3/4 would seem to work better. A 2" return seems far too large... although it could "slow flow" more in the UV housing I suppose...

Best bet is 3/4 right?

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That is simply regarding the fitting on the in/output. The Actual sterilizer is the same. Are you putting this in-line with your return pump?


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Unread 10/22/2018, 10:36 PM   #10
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That is simply regarding the fitting on the in/output. The Actual sterilizer is the same. Are you putting this in-line with your return pump?
Yes... inline.

Thanks for the feedback.


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Unread 10/22/2018, 10:42 PM   #11
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You say "stage 2". What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

Are you trying to reduce crypto? Crypto requires a zap count of 280,000 μWs/cm² to eradicate in a single pass. You're not going to get anywhere close to that without a massive UV. How many GPH is your return running?


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You say "stage 2". What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

Are you trying to reduce crypto? Crypto requires a zap count of 280,000 μWs/cm² to eradicate in a single pass. You're not going to get anywhere close to that without a massive UV. How many GPH is your return running?
At this point I want to kill the algae blooms. I'm at approx 600 gph. Clarity first and then install a valve to slow flow in the UV.


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Unread 10/22/2018, 10:50 PM   #13
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I think you may be better off not running it through your return. Just run it in a closed loop in your sump with it's own pump.

For AquaUV the Classic 57 Watt @ 300GPH would get you there but I bet your ehiem is pushing double that.


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And to wait or not to wait for Thanksgiving Day Sales.... arrrrgh... tired of clearing so much algae.


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What algae? on the glass?


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What algae? on the glass?
Cyano and Hair Algae... when I ran UV before it really helped reduce my algae issues.


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It may help a little but a UV only reduces algae in suspension. Since Cyano and hair algae are on the substrate the impact on them will likely and unfortunately be minimal.

I hate to recommend dosing the tank but many have had success with red slime removers for cyano and nutrient control for the hair algae, unless it is actually bryopsis in which Fluconazole has had great results.


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This looks like hair but comes back overnight with reduced light, nutrients, 20 pct water change and gravel siphon. My guess is that it is in suspension when it spreads. The fish also pluck it all day and my algae blenny is gut loaded!

I tried raising my pH and dKH also to see if that changes any trend on its roliferation after removal. But it hasnt helped. If the UV doesn't help to reduce growth I figure replacing the gravel and rock work in stages will be a next step.


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This looks like hair but comes back overnight with reduced light, nutrients, 20 pct water change and gravel siphon. My guess is that it is in suspension when it spreads. The fish also pluck it all day and my algae blenny is gut loaded!

I tried raising my pH and dKH also to see if that changes any trend on its roliferation after removal. But it hasnt helped. If the UV doesn't help to reduce growth I figure replacing the gravel and rock work in stages will be a next step.


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Unread 10/23/2018, 12:51 PM   #20
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For a 120g tank a 25w aquauv should be sufficient. No need to run the 40w. That said, the Coralife is garbage. Don't waste your money. The 25w Aquauv will be much more effective. While it will likely help a bit with cyano, I don't think it will do much for GHA. I do however swear by UVs as they do have a very good impact on overall water quality and clarity and the AquaUV's are 2nd to none.


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For a 120g tank a 25w aquauv should be sufficient. No need to run the 40w. That said, the Coralife is garbage. Don't waste your money. The 25w Aquauv will be much more effective. While it will likely help a bit with cyano, I don't think it will do much for GHA. I do however swear by UVs as they do have a very good impact on overall water quality and clarity and the AquaUV's are 2nd to none.
Agree with this post. I would however run it with its own pump and not inline with the return.


Also, plumb it in such a way that when the power is turned off to the pump the unit doesn't drain.


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Unread 10/29/2018, 09:56 PM   #22
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Installed Aqua UV 25W Unit

I am running it in the post filtered water in my sump off a 300gph max pump currently running at 50% capacity via it's settings. Install was smooth once all angles were worked out and the unit is very well built and the bulb/quartz look fully capable of assisting with clarity - at least.

See attached photo... Thank you for the Q&A!!!


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Cool! Looks good!


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With the output submerge doesn't that create some head pressure on your pump?


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With the output submerge doesn't that create some head pressure on your pump?


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It shouldn't.


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