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Unread 10/21/2014, 11:12 PM   #426
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Sure. Clothcrete(TM) is very flexible. LOL

the problem with 2" is the volume it occupies. It's massive even inside a tank as big as mine. I would prefer a slim profile channeled wall.

I'm having some trouble with my DIY dosing pump and DIY UV LEDs, but hopefully I'll be able to get to the flow this weekend.


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Unread 10/21/2014, 11:13 PM   #427
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All my algae is mostly gone. My refusal to do water changes combined with my mosquito load was the culprit.

With an abundant macroalgae refugium, it's looking much better.

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Unread 10/21/2014, 11:29 PM   #428
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Nice! Lookin' good.

I hope I get out of my algae phase as well.


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Unread 10/22/2014, 07:05 AM   #429
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It looks a little drab with pink coralline...

Soon as I see signs of any, I'll pull my urchins out.

Wouldn't hurt to put some more coral or LR in there too, but I want to get my flow right first.


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Unread 10/22/2014, 07:07 AM   #430
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See how big the 2" surge outlet is on the left hand side?

I wish I had integrated it into my wall with smaller PVC outlets coming through the wall... Maybe?


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Unread 10/22/2014, 09:01 AM   #431
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I'm a big fan of invisible plumbing. The freshwater aquascaping contest guys wouldn't be caught dead with plumbing showing! I think that is a good example for us to follow.

Maybe you could redo some side wall pieces to accommodate your idea. Maybe a manifold type thing?

I was thinking the other day how difficult it is to account for everything, when building up a tank. The solution is to build it, see what needs to change, then rebuild it. But who has the gumption for that!

As for my tank, I'm already seeing that my 'coast2coast overflow-turned field of dreams (TM) refugium' is too high and too narrow, front to back. To fix it, I'd need to lower the water level around 8 inches. Remove the overflow portion of the fake wall. Modify the overflow, so that the front panel tilts out towards the top, and is about an inch and a half lower. Then I'd have to make a new top piece for the fake wall to accommodate it. Yay!

It doesn't sound that bad just writing about it, but mustering the gumption to actually redo it, well that's a whole other kettle of fish…


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Unread 10/22/2014, 09:03 AM   #432
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Great project, thanks for sharing all the details.


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Unread 10/23/2014, 12:18 AM   #433
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coast2coast overflow-turned field of dreams (TM) refugium
Classic. I lol'd at that

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I'm a big fan of invisible plumbing. The freshwater aquascaping contest guys wouldn't be caught dead with plumbing showing! I think that is a good example for us to follow
Totally agree- is your rock work pretty well set in place or is there 'opportunity' to adjust it to accommodate changing the surge input?

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I wish I had integrated it into my wall with smaller PVC outlets coming through the wall... Maybe?
It'll be there for years and it'll irritate you everytime you walk by it if it isn't perfect so might as well get out that gumption and make it so. Demo a little more and then get that surge inlet perfect and
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Unread 10/23/2014, 12:56 AM   #434
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Thanks. I have a whole Clothcrete(TM) post

First, I have to get it functionally right. The walls are all removable- down to the individual branches that interlock with PVC pipe fittings.


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Unread 10/25/2014, 10:39 PM   #435
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Attempt 1 in progress

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I'll try it without concrete as a proof of concept first.



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Unread 10/25/2014, 10:47 PM   #436
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Here's the baseline (for reference)

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Unread 10/26/2014, 02:28 AM   #437
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Started with a straight bar that's lines up with the side wall.

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Here it is from above. The rock pipe it's pushing against is a separate return (not connected).

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Unread 10/26/2014, 02:30 AM   #438
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So that didn't work so well. The water rushed towards the pipe end and gushed out of the slit as if it's leaking on the way to the cap.

The result was a triangular wave that's strongest towards the cap and weakest close to the water inlet.

It was also pointing way too high. Almost hit the halide bulb.

Almost all the water went straight into the overflow.


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Unread 10/26/2014, 02:34 AM   #439
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Made some adjustments. Angled down the flow and turned the whole pipe so the triangle wave's head is traveling down the tank length.

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Unread 10/26/2014, 02:35 AM   #440
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That works. I'm going to leave it bare for a couple of weeks to make sure there's no surprises.


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Unread 10/26/2014, 06:47 AM   #441
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All my algae is mostly gone. My refusal to do water changes combined with my mosquito load was the culprit.

With an abundant macroalgae refugium, it's looking much better.

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Mosquito load?


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Unread 10/26/2014, 10:46 AM   #442
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Here's the original baseline again (pic got lost)
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Unread 10/26/2014, 10:50 AM   #443
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Mosquito load- yeah. I live by a lake in TX and since my tank main is in my garage, opening the garage doors in the evenings invites swarms of bugs.

The DT, sump, and aux tanks get smothered in bugs. I scoop them up with a net but it was a lot of P and N load. I have massive spiders and lizards coming in to feast on the bio load!

Anyway, I thought my skimmer could keep up but I needed regular water changes.

With the winter coming, I thought they'd slow down but no luck yet. It's warm in TX until Jan and then it'll only last till March or so.


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Unread 10/26/2014, 11:01 AM   #445
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Already seeing a problem with the new surge slit...

The flow is too directed downwards and while it's not causing a sand storm, the sand is slowly moving into dunes. In a day, I expect to see bare bottom in one area.

The opposite surge has a platform under it so it doesn't have the same issue.


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Unread 10/26/2014, 11:23 AM   #446
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Not sure if it's visible in these pics, but the dunes are starting to form

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Unread 10/26/2014, 06:47 PM   #447
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It looks like you ought to have the slotted pipe flipped- smallest holes at the far end near the cap, largest right out of the 90. Maybe a smaller slot?
Hmmm.

Oh also, what if you didn't cut the slot all the way through so the end of the pipe still was complete and kept it's integrity to fit better with the cap?


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Unread 10/26/2014, 07:27 PM   #448
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Looks like you 'bout got 'er done! Nice!


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Unread 11/01/2014, 08:55 PM   #449
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Decided to go a different direction with my kalkwasser stirrer. The magnetic stirrer gets stuck too often and is unreflective with a large amount of kalkwasser powder:

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$13 motor, $10 control board (optional), $6 power supply


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Unread 11/01/2014, 08:56 PM   #450
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Still need to water test...


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