Terry's 180 Peninsula Reef build. - Page 6

Gary Majchrzak · 02/20/2016, 10:59 AM

Get rid of all that and install eductors

6ft long aquarium!
See melevs reef. Marc uses eductors.
Research 'em. There's more to them than first meets the eye.

terry4505 · 02/20/2016, 11:03 AM

What I like about the Gyre that eductors lack is pulsing and wave making. I like to be able to control the flow in-tank, apart from the flow through the sump.

don_chuwish · 02/20/2016, 11:25 AM

Looks good, a few zip ties around the PVC will tidy up the cable, never see it. But I think we need video for this!

terry4505 · 02/27/2016, 02:06 PM

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://vid1354.photobucket.com/album...ps8hznsijl.mp4

I half took Gary's advice and added eductors to the returns (holy crap, what a difference). I have the Gyre on about 40% on a pulse and it is almost too much flow for the LPS, but the SPS are loving it and PE has been dramatically improved.

I sold the WAV pumps and will be adding in a pair of Jebao RW-15s just for a bit of flow on the drain end, but honestly, I don't know that I need them, and will run them very low.

mrpergo · 02/27/2016, 02:40 PM

no screen top for your system or did you take it off for the video ?

terry4505 · 02/27/2016, 02:45 PM

No, no tops

mrpergo · 02/27/2016, 03:56 PM

Aran Laing just lost one of his hard to find fish because it tried some hardwood floor surfing........just saying.....lol

Gary Majchrzak · 02/27/2016, 04:20 PM

a good move for so many reasons....
I would credit my success with humilis/gemmifera "thick finger" type Acro to use of eductors. They create a constant low cost unobtrusive powerful gyre

terry4505 · 03/20/2016, 06:17 AM

It feels like it is time for a tank update. In general, not a lot of changes. I was lazy over my February recess (I am a teacher) and failed to move the sump to the basement. That and we got about 24 inches of snow here, which made getting the materials a bit of challenge. So the new plan is next week when I am on spring break. I have to build a stand for the countertop I am going to be using down there. When I put in the concrete counters in the kitchen, I kept the old countertop, which I am going to use in the basement for a sump stand/work space in the fish area.

My fish got absolutely crushed with ich. I don't know which fish brought it in, but it wiped out everyone except the orange spotted rabbit fish, the melanarus wrasse and the snowflake eel. I had ich in my old tank, and none of the fish were effected. I have read some things about mature tanks being better able to keep the ich under control because of the presence of so much micro fauna. With the tank being so new, the ich ran rampant. When the sump moves downstairs, I am going to set up a hospital tank, remove the fish that are in there and go fish-less for 8 weeks. I will be quarantining all new fish from here on out.

I was also experiencing a lot of browning of the SPS corals. I did a few things to deal with this... I turned up the Kessils a bit, extended the run time of the T5s, and took the bio pellet reactor off. I know you are not supposed to change a bunch of things at once, but it seems to be doing the trick. All of the brown SPS are slowly bouncing back. and all of the pieces I have added since look stellar.

Enough talking, here are some pics:

I am thoroughly enjoying the progression of this tank. Seeing new growth and color on the SPS makes me a happy boy.

terry4505 · 03/20/2016, 06:18 AM

Neoz · 03/20/2016, 07:00 AM

Love the build and still can't get over how slick that light looks! Great job.

terry4505 · 03/20/2016, 07:01 AM

Thanks. I am enjoying this tank as much as I ever enjoyed the old 120. I think building this one from scratch has been a really rewarding process

don_chuwish · 03/20/2016, 08:17 AM

Great that you're still enjoying it even after the ich setback. Good luck over spring break! Concrete countertops? We did the same - turned out fantastic.

lwmnfrvr · 03/22/2016, 10:36 AM

Good Morning Sir, your lighting set up is fantastic. What bulb combination are you running on your T-5's and what are the settings on your Kessil's. (I.E. color and intensity)

Have a great day.

terry4505 · 03/25/2016, 01:15 PM

4 60" T5s. 2x ATI coral plus, 1x ATI Blue plus, and 1x purple plus.

Kessils start at 6am, ramp to 80% intensity, 70% color and ramp back down and go off at 10pm.

Operation move the sump to the basement, phase 1 got under way today. I built the stand, and cut the counter tops where the sump is going today:

Next step is painting the stand, screwing some plywood to the walls for hanging equipment, and plumbing the sink and sump.

don_chuwish · 03/25/2016, 03:13 PM

Nice spot. Jealous of the space!

Capt_Cully · 03/26/2016, 04:59 AM

This is where it goes from being sump to becoming La-bor-a-tory.

terry4505 · 03/26/2016, 06:09 AM

exactly!

Capt_Cully · 03/26/2016, 06:13 AM

What's your plan for ventilation? Dehumidifier? My old basement system was like a rainforest without running one.

terry4505 · 03/26/2016, 08:05 AM

Options are pretty unlimited. There is dehumidifier down there now. I could petty easily install a vent fan. The basement is massive and wide open.

terry4505 · 03/26/2016, 02:12 PM

Snapped a few pics while I was doing a water change and some pump maintenance this morning:

Gary Majchrzak · 03/27/2016, 05:48 AM

Looks great- especially basement sump area. Cover sump to mimimize basement humidity

RoscoPColtrane · 03/28/2016, 07:09 PM

Looks good. I did a basement sumps few years ago and wouldn't have it any other way. I plumbed my sump to the sink so that I could open valves for a water change. I also have my skimmer drain to a container in the sink with a float switch to avoid overflows. Plan ahead it will pay off.

akmzero · 03/29/2016, 06:34 AM

I'm still in love with those lights man. I'm thinking about finding that fixture and doing the same

terry4505 · 04/02/2016, 12:08 PM

Couple of fun updates today. I didn't get as far as I would have liked with the basement sump move this week, but I did get some projects done.

I ran the plumbing for the drain, hung plywood on the walls for mounting equipment/gear/shelves, and primed everything:

And some recent tank/coral shots:

02/20/2016, 10:59 AM	#126
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	Get rid of all that and install eductors 6ft long aquarium! See melevs reef. Marc uses eductors. Research 'em. There's more to them than first meets the eye. __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

02/27/2016, 02:40 PM	#130
mrpergo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Hilton,N.Y. Posts: 398	no screen top for your system or did you take it off for the video ? __________________ 75 gal.,80#LR,20 gal sump, skimmer,pair of RW-8's Pair of Ocellaris Black & White Clowns, Pair of Kaudern Cardinal,One Spot Foxface, Bi-color Blenny, Tomini Tang,Yellow Watchman Goby, Green Mandarin

02/27/2016, 03:56 PM	#132
mrpergo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Hilton,N.Y. Posts: 398	Aran Laing just lost one of his hard to find fish because it tried some hardwood floor surfing........just saying.....lol __________________ 75 gal.,80#LR,20 gal sump, skimmer,pair of RW-8's Pair of Ocellaris Black & White Clowns, Pair of Kaudern Cardinal,One Spot Foxface, Bi-color Blenny, Tomini Tang,Yellow Watchman Goby, Green Mandarin

02/27/2016, 04:20 PM	#133
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	eductors a good move for so many reasons.... I would credit my success with humilis/gemmifera "thick finger" type Acro to use of eductors. They create a constant low cost unobtrusive powerful gyre __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

03/20/2016, 07:00 AM	#136
Neoz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,582	Love the build and still can't get over how slick that light looks! Great job. __________________ Dave Live to Learn Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 450 - currently in storage.

02/20/2016, 11:03 AM	#127
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	What I like about the Gyre that eductors lack is pulsing and wave making. I like to be able to control the flow in-tank, apart from the flow through the sump.

02/20/2016, 11:25 AM	#128
don_chuwish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 345	Looks good, a few zip ties around the PVC will tidy up the cable, never see it. But I think we need video for this!

02/27/2016, 02:06 PM	#129
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	Ask and ye shall receive: http://vid1354.photobucket.com/album...ps8hznsijl.mp4 I half took Gary's advice and added eductors to the returns (holy crap, what a difference). I have the Gyre on about 40% on a pulse and it is almost too much flow for the LPS, but the SPS are loving it and PE has been dramatically improved. I sold the WAV pumps and will be adding in a pair of Jebao RW-15s just for a bit of flow on the drain end, but honestly, I don't know that I need them, and will run them very low.

02/27/2016, 02:45 PM	#131
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	No, no tops

03/20/2016, 06:17 AM	#134
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	It feels like it is time for a tank update. In general, not a lot of changes. I was lazy over my February recess (I am a teacher) and failed to move the sump to the basement. That and we got about 24 inches of snow here, which made getting the materials a bit of challenge. So the new plan is next week when I am on spring break. I have to build a stand for the countertop I am going to be using down there. When I put in the concrete counters in the kitchen, I kept the old countertop, which I am going to use in the basement for a sump stand/work space in the fish area. My fish got absolutely crushed with ich. I don't know which fish brought it in, but it wiped out everyone except the orange spotted rabbit fish, the melanarus wrasse and the snowflake eel. I had ich in my old tank, and none of the fish were effected. I have read some things about mature tanks being better able to keep the ich under control because of the presence of so much micro fauna. With the tank being so new, the ich ran rampant. When the sump moves downstairs, I am going to set up a hospital tank, remove the fish that are in there and go fish-less for 8 weeks. I will be quarantining all new fish from here on out. I was also experiencing a lot of browning of the SPS corals. I did a few things to deal with this... I turned up the Kessils a bit, extended the run time of the T5s, and took the bio pellet reactor off. I know you are not supposed to change a bunch of things at once, but it seems to be doing the trick. All of the brown SPS are slowly bouncing back. and all of the pieces I have added since look stellar. Enough talking, here are some pics: I am thoroughly enjoying the progression of this tank. Seeing new growth and color on the SPS makes me a happy boy.

03/20/2016, 06:18 AM	#135
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663

03/20/2016, 07:01 AM	#137
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	Thanks. I am enjoying this tank as much as I ever enjoyed the old 120. I think building this one from scratch has been a really rewarding process

03/20/2016, 08:17 AM	#138
don_chuwish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 345	Great that you're still enjoying it even after the ich setback. Good luck over spring break! Concrete countertops? We did the same - turned out fantastic. __________________ In transition... 120G redo.

03/22/2016, 10:36 AM	#139
lwmnfrvr Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7	Good Morning Sir, your lighting set up is fantastic. What bulb combination are you running on your T-5's and what are the settings on your Kessil's. (I.E. color and intensity) Have a great day.

03/25/2016, 01:15 PM	#140
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	4 60" T5s. 2x ATI coral plus, 1x ATI Blue plus, and 1x purple plus. Kessils start at 6am, ramp to 80% intensity, 70% color and ramp back down and go off at 10pm. Operation move the sump to the basement, phase 1 got under way today. I built the stand, and cut the counter tops where the sump is going today: Next step is painting the stand, screwing some plywood to the walls for hanging equipment, and plumbing the sink and sump.

03/25/2016, 03:13 PM	#141
don_chuwish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 345	Nice spot. Jealous of the space! __________________ In transition... 120G redo.

03/26/2016, 04:59 AM	#142
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	This is where it goes from being sump to becoming La-bor-a-tory. __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

03/26/2016, 06:09 AM	#143
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	exactly!

03/26/2016, 06:13 AM	#144
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	What's your plan for ventilation? Dehumidifier? My old basement system was like a rainforest without running one. __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

03/26/2016, 08:05 AM	#145
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	Options are pretty unlimited. There is dehumidifier down there now. I could petty easily install a vent fan. The basement is massive and wide open.

03/26/2016, 02:12 PM	#146
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	Snapped a few pics while I was doing a water change and some pump maintenance this morning:

03/27/2016, 05:48 AM	#147
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	Looks great- especially basement sump area. Cover sump to mimimize basement humidity __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

03/28/2016, 07:09 PM	#148
RoscoPColtrane Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 586	Looks good. I did a basement sumps few years ago and wouldn't have it any other way. I plumbed my sump to the sink so that I could open valves for a water change. I also have my skimmer drain to a container in the sink with a float switch to avoid overflows. Plan ahead it will pay off.

03/29/2016, 06:34 AM	#149
akmzero Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 254	I'm still in love with those lights man. I'm thinking about finding that fixture and doing the same

04/02/2016, 12:08 PM	#150
terry4505 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 663	Couple of fun updates today. I didn't get as far as I would have liked with the basement sump move this week, but I did get some projects done. I ran the plumbing for the drain, hung plywood on the walls for mounting equipment/gear/shelves, and primed everything: And some recent tank/coral shots: