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Unread 06/16/2013, 10:10 PM   #101
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Yes, that's what I want; keep the else mode on the controller and give it different power from the Apex, ie. Slow flow at night high flow during the day

I already control the pump with the Apex using a voltage divider so I can go from 0-100%. I just like the ELSE mode on the WP40

Another reason is my battery backup, this way I could skip powering the Apex to make the pump work, but I'm not sure it would work this way, I'm going to try



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Unread 06/16/2013, 11:00 PM   #102
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Hey, i got the connectors, its the correct waterproof LED connector for Jebaos.. You can get them at Aliexpress http://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/F...630198351.html
Just to confirm, these connectors are exactly the same as the ones sold by reef angel for $25 each?


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Unread 06/16/2013, 11:43 PM   #103
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Yes, they are the exact same ones. But make sure you understand, this is just the 3 pin LED connector portion. Those RA cables are comprised of more components than just the LED connectors, such as a DC jack, voltage divider, and low pass filter. Don't think that if you buy the connector you'll be done..


Can anyone share some ideas/coding on how they have Apex controlling these?



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Unread 06/23/2013, 09:06 AM   #104
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These WP40's hooked to your own controller, running your own patterns, are awesome!

For the last couple of weeks I was using a Reefcrest type of pattern, or what I thought Reefcrest amounted to. It was a variable output pattern with a pump on each end set to x and max - x respectfully. Not sure how close to Reefcrest that actually is, but last night I added a wave component. Each pump toggles on and off alternating still using the variable sliding output split between the 2 pumps. I also increased the max limit since they are not constantly on any more so less chance of being too strong.

My Rics immediately opened larger, so they seem to approve.

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Do you mind sharing your program? Is it for the Apex? I have been working on one, but it just isn't right.


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Unread 06/23/2013, 12:02 PM   #105
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This thread is sweet... Can't wait to build one for the WP40 I have and order another one! One question? Doesn't the pump run both forward and backward? This diagram shows -24V going to ground. Does this mean we lose the ability to reverse the pump?


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Unread 06/23/2013, 01:05 PM   #106
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Please anyone with Apex programming ideas, please post your program/setup for the Jebaos.

As far as I know this thing only goes one direction, dual direction would be cool though!

Checked voltage on the control wire, Jebao says that H1 is 100%, H2 is 75%, and H3 is 50%. The voltages being put out from the controller were 4.96v for 100%, 3.96v for 75%, and 2.96v for 50%, in case this helps anyone..


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Unread 06/23/2013, 01:30 PM   #107
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This thread is sweet... Can't wait to build one for the WP40 I have and order another one! One question? Doesn't the pump run both forward and backward? This diagram shows -24V going to ground. Does this mean we lose the ability to reverse the pump?
This pump runs in one direction, pushes water forward. Why would you want this pump to have the ability to run backward? It is not very efficient to move water backward with the design of the housing. Just wonder.


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Unread 06/23/2013, 06:33 PM   #108
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Reversing direction would be fabulous. Reef currents often move in back and forth flows. First one direction, then the opposite. The value in a pump reversing direction folds nicely into this natural reef current event. It's really too bad the pump won't do it.

BTW - my certainty that the pump won't do it has nothing to do with understanding how the pump works. It's understanding the marketing value of mimicking nature. So it follows that if vendors could field a reasonably priced pump to reverse flow, they'd have done it long ago.


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Unread 06/25/2013, 12:49 PM   #109
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Does anyone know what the resistance is on the control signal? The controller I'm going to use requires 1K ohm load, minimum.


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Unread 06/26/2013, 02:25 PM   #110
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Since there are only three wires connected to the pump, can I assume the analog signal negative and power negative are connected inside the pump and share the same wire coming back to the controller?


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Unread 07/17/2013, 01:48 PM   #111
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So going through the various threads, I'm slightly confused as to how to hook up the wp40/25's to a stock arduino. I've read that you need a cable, or a signal converter from pwm to 0-5v analog. Another individual has said they just ran the yellow wire over to their arduino and controlled it through pwm.

What is the current accepted method for hooking up one of these to an arduino and making it variable.


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Unread 07/18/2013, 08:15 PM   #112
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Just a small bump to try to figure this out. Thanks!


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Unread 07/19/2013, 08:44 AM   #113
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You can use pwm ordem analog 0-5v to control. Just be sure to use reefangel jebao cable or build your own


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Unread 07/19/2013, 08:46 AM   #114
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I thought the reef angel cable was for 0-10v analog.


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Unread 07/19/2013, 09:10 AM   #115
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The Reef Angel cable will do both analog or PWM.


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Unread 07/19/2013, 09:52 AM   #116
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So can it take 0-5v pwm from an arduino and output 0-5v analog? I ask because everything I've seen points to the cable being for 0-10v analog to 0-5v analog or so I thought.


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Unread 07/19/2013, 10:10 AM   #117
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I'm not sure if it is 0-10 or 0-5, but I know it can do both Analog and PWM, but I think it is


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Unread 07/19/2013, 03:27 PM   #118
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I just checked the RA forums about the cable, and it was said the cable is for 0-10v signals, I need to configure it for 0-5v signals. If someone has a part list/build on how to do that I would appreciate it. My knowledge of circuits is very limited atm, and zero knowledge of circuit diagrams (I'm working on that lol)


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Unread 07/22/2013, 12:08 AM   #119
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Just a tip that should point you in the right direction. If you have 1-5 volts already (say from a arduino, PWM) you need the low pass filter (this makes the signal usable to analog devices), but not the voltage divider (this just cuts the voltage in half).

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I just checked the RA forums about the cable, and it was said the cable is for 0-10v signals, I need to configure it for 0-5v signals. If someone has a part list/build on how to do that I would appreciate it. My knowledge of circuits is very limited atm, and zero knowledge of circuit diagrams (I'm working on that lol)



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Unread 07/22/2013, 09:46 AM   #120
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That's right, and the information about which low pass filter is used on the reef jebao cable is on the reefangel forum


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Unread 07/23/2013, 11:31 AM   #121
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Hope I can post this here since most of you are not using the stock wp40 controller. I was unlucky enough to get a wp40 without a stock controller and dealing with jebao is proving to be quit difficult. IF anyone is not using their stock controller and would be willing to give it up I would be most grateful. Just PM me if you have one and are not planning on using it.

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Unread 07/23/2013, 12:05 PM   #122
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Hope I can post this here since most of you are not using the stock wp40 controller. I was unlucky enough to get a wp40 without a stock controller and dealing with jebao is proving to be quit difficult. IF anyone is not using their stock controller and would be willing to give it up I would be most grateful. Just PM me if you have one and are not planning on using it.

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You have been selling many of these in the Used Equipment forum with the stock controllers. Why are you asking for them here?


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Unread 07/23/2013, 02:28 PM   #123
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To get over on people...


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Unread 07/23/2013, 03:12 PM   #124
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To get over on people...
Curious exactly how would i be getting over on anyone when i purchased a pump with no controller. I am simply trying to obtain one since one of my 4 that i originally purchased didn't have one. It was suggested by one of your members to ask here since a lot of you weren't using the stock controllers. Why is it some people assume the worst instead of finding out the truth.

Just for the record me selling my pumps has been ok'd by mods.

Anyways, if anyone has one I'd be willing to pay for it if you aren't using the controller. If Jebao would make good on this I wouldn't have to resort to this but since they won't respond I am forced to ask here. Please PM me if you are interested in selling yours.


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Unread 07/23/2013, 03:27 PM   #125
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