m0nkie's 560gal - Page 2

jestersix · 09/26/2016, 04:42 PM

I like the fish side view - looked different building from my perspective. Looking forward to seeing this one get wet! Thanks for the opportunity to work on this build with you!

m0nkie · 10/06/2016, 10:13 PM

The sump is delayed for another week. Bah.. Can't do any plumbing. Taking the time to add more electrical outlets around the room. Drilled some holes for RODI line and bought a Spectrapure Maxcap. also wired a Cat6 cable to the tank for APEX.

some more goodies arrived..

plumbing parts.. wanted white and red tank for years but somehow ended up with all black. Black wall, black tank, black sump, red pipes

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Seaswirls

room is starting to get crazy

locito277 · 10/06/2016, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkie

The sump is delayed for another week. Bah.. Can't do any plumbing. Taking the time to add more electrical outlets around the room. Drilled some holes for RODI line and bought a Spectrapure Maxcap. also wired a Cat6 cable to the tank for APEX.

some more goodies arrived..

plumbing parts.. wanted white and red tank for years but somehow ended up with all black. Black wall, black tank, black sump, red pipes

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Seaswirls

room is starting to get crazy

Looks like my living room. Can't wait to see the equipment out of boxes and in your aquarium

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m0nkie · 10/11/2016, 01:05 AM

so the Gyre 280 standalone unit is still out.. this got me thinking about switching to Vortech MP60s. The only pump that won't have any wires inside the tank, which I really dislike.

What do you guys think? 2 Gyre 280s or 5 MP60s. (I know about gyre quality)

I also have 4 seaswirls for returns.

2 MP60 on each side and 3 on back wall? over kill?
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jdantunes · 10/11/2016, 08:04 AM

Are you using all four sea swirls as returns from your sump pump? Why not use two of them in a closed loop with a second variable speed pump?

On internal flow... Why don't you just start with one MP60 or Gyre on each end? And then later add more.

IMO Ecotech Marine propeller pumps and Gyre can't compare to each other, they have a completely different flow patters. Better make sure to look at the flow that you are trying to archive and choose on a product accordingly.

Dmorty217 · 10/11/2016, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkie

so the Gyre 280 standalone unit is still out.. this got me thinking about switching to Vortech MP60s. The only pump that won't have any wires inside the tank, which I really dislike.

What do you guys think? 2 Gyre 280s or 5 MP60s. (I know about gyre quality)

I also have 4 seaswirls for returns.

2 MP60 on each side and 3 on back wall? over kill?
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MP60s for sure

m0nkie · 10/11/2016, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdantunes

Are you using all four sea swirls as returns from your sump pump? Why not use two of them in a closed loop with a second variable speed pump?

On internal flow... Why don't you just start with one MP60 or Gyre on each end? And then later add more.

IMO Ecotech Marine propeller pumps and Gyre can't compare to each other, they have a completely different flow patters. Better make sure to look at the flow that you are trying to archive and choose on a product accordingly.

I haven't designed any closed loop system. Didn't really want to go that direction. If I did, I think I'd go with an Ocean Motion. All 4 SeaSwirls are attached to sump return.

I figured the SS will provide decent water movement at the surface. The MP60s I can place low enough to give movement at the lower portion.

in the long run, with SPS in this system, I will eventually need to replace the Gyre with MP60 or WAV. But that won't be for awhile

m0nkie · 10/11/2016, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmorty217

MP60s for sure

Hi Dmorty. I saw your thread on Panta Rhei Hydro Wizard. So what did you choose in the end?

locito277 · 10/11/2016, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locito277

Looks like my living room. Can't wait to see the equipment out of boxes and in your aquarium

Looks like my house LOL
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m0nkie · 10/11/2016, 04:29 PM

yours may be getting wet earlier than mine!

this sump is taking FOREVER...

just bought a Spectrapure Maxcap.. no more high TDS

sfsuphysics · 10/11/2016, 04:50 PM

I used to like Vortech products, then I fell out of love in a hurry when they needed constant maintenance and replacement parts (those magnets were the worst, since that's not something you can get 3rd party), their PSUs turned to crap (which luckily was something 3rd party you could get as they charged way more than they should have).

That said, the newer QD models seemed to have fixed all the issues I had with the wetsides over the years I've had them. I may end up replacing all the wetsides with the QD wet sides and ... but I dunno. I like the idea of the Gyre pumps a lot, especially with large open expanses... but I personally have no experience with them.

m0nkie · 10/11/2016, 06:03 PM

I like the Vortech QDs. more than Gyre and I've been using Gyre since day 1. However I don't like the idea of 5-6 MP60s with 5-6 controllers and plugs. I'll need a bunch of APEX links too..

I just bought the Panta Rhei Hydro Wizard ECM63. Will post some reviews once my tank gets wet. This beast alone is suppose to be strong enough for my tank.

m0nkie · 10/11/2016, 06:47 PM

I have decided to give the German product a try.. bought the Panta Rhei ECM63.

locito277 · 10/11/2016, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkie

yours may be getting wet earlier than mine!

this sump is taking FOREVER...

just bought a Spectrapure Maxcap.. no more high TDS

Everything in due time! I'm sure it will look fire when the time comes!

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m0nkie · 10/15/2016, 01:12 AM

good news is sump is finished. bad news delivery guy got "stuck". so I'll see if I can get it this weekend..

in the mean while. some pictures of new equipment

Panta Rhei ECM 63 pump. This and 4 SS should handle all the flow needs for now

very expensive snail guard... and no instruction on how to install it..

Achilles Torben · 10/15/2016, 05:38 AM

These pumps are monsters! I have four of these. To much.

Grüße Torben

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robbous · 10/15/2016, 10:01 AM

Dam you go all out on the toys.... Very nice!

m0nkie · 10/15/2016, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles Torben

These pumps are monsters! I have four of these. To much.

Grüße Torben

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wow 4? did you get the ECM42?

Do you know how to install this snail guard? there's no English instructions on this

m0nkie · 10/15/2016, 11:40 AM

Spectrapure maxcap unit arrived

reef octopus skim collector

Achilles Torben · 10/15/2016, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkie

wow 4? did you get the ECM42?

Do you know how to install this snail guard? there's no English instructions on this

No four ECM 63

The German instruction isn't better

I know the owner of Panta Rhei and he visit me so he explained to me how it works

Remove the cover of the snail guard by four screws. Put pump inside and put cable to the hole between cover and pump guard and put cover with screws back. Now you can connect cover with pump by 3 screws.

Grüße Torben

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m0nkie · 10/15/2016, 12:26 PM

thanks! got it to work.

how big is your tank to require 4 ECM63?

Achilles Torben · 10/15/2016, 03:28 PM

Doesn't require. Two may be enough but I want reserve.

Build treat here is "Angeltown" 5.500 liter

Grüße Torben

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Achilles Torben · 10/15/2016, 03:30 PM

Use this pumps for 12 months already without snail guard and props doesn't damage. Some little fish died in there so I bought snail guard.

Grüße Torben

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sayitfast · 10/15/2016, 04:17 PM

Looks like its going to be amazing...

locito277 · 10/15/2016, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkie

good news is sump is finished. bad news delivery guy got "stuck". so I'll see if I can get it this weekend..

in the mean while. some pictures of new equipment

Panta Rhei ECM 63 pump. This and 4 SS should handle all the flow needs for now

very expensive snail guard... and no instruction on how to install it..

How much flow and how does it work?!!

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10/06/2016, 10:13 PM	#27
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	The sump is delayed for another week. Bah.. Can't do any plumbing. Taking the time to add more electrical outlets around the room. Drilled some holes for RODI line and bought a Spectrapure Maxcap. also wired a Cat6 cable to the tank for APEX. some more goodies arrived.. plumbing parts.. wanted white and red tank for years but somehow ended up with all black. Black wall, black tank, black sump, red pipes [IMG][/IMG] Seaswirls room is starting to get crazy __________________ 560gal in the making Last edited by m0nkie; 10/06/2016 at 10:20 PM.

10/11/2016, 01:05 AM	#29
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	so the Gyre 280 standalone unit is still out.. this got me thinking about switching to Vortech MP60s. The only pump that won't have any wires inside the tank, which I really dislike. What do you guys think? 2 Gyre 280s or 5 MP60s. (I know about gyre quality) I also have 4 seaswirls for returns. 2 MP60 on each side and 3 on back wall? over kill? [IMG][/IMG] __________________ 560gal in the making

10/11/2016, 08:04 AM	#30
jdantunes Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 549	Are you using all four sea swirls as returns from your sump pump? Why not use two of them in a closed loop with a second variable speed pump? On internal flow... Why don't you just start with one MP60 or Gyre on each end? And then later add more. IMO Ecotech Marine propeller pumps and Gyre can't compare to each other, they have a completely different flow patters. Better make sure to look at the flow that you are trying to archive and choose on a product accordingly. __________________ Jonathan Current Tank Info: 75 Gallon Deep Blue Rimless

10/11/2016, 04:29 PM	#35
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	yours may be getting wet earlier than mine! this sump is taking FOREVER... just bought a Spectrapure Maxcap.. no more high TDS __________________ 560gal in the making

10/11/2016, 04:50 PM	#36
sfsuphysics Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Francisco Posts: 9,103	I used to like Vortech products, then I fell out of love in a hurry when they needed constant maintenance and replacement parts (those magnets were the worst, since that's not something you can get 3rd party), their PSUs turned to crap (which luckily was something 3rd party you could get as they charged way more than they should have). That said, the newer QD models seemed to have fixed all the issues I had with the wetsides over the years I've had them. I may end up replacing all the wetsides with the QD wet sides and ... but I dunno. I like the idea of the Gyre pumps a lot, especially with large open expanses... but I personally have no experience with them. __________________ Mike

09/26/2016, 04:42 PM	#26
jestersix Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 85	I like the fish side view - looked different building from my perspective. Looking forward to seeing this one get wet! Thanks for the opportunity to work on this build with you!

10/11/2016, 06:03 PM	#37
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	I like the Vortech QDs. more than Gyre and I've been using Gyre since day 1. However I don't like the idea of 5-6 MP60s with 5-6 controllers and plugs. I'll need a bunch of APEX links too.. I just bought the Panta Rhei Hydro Wizard ECM63. Will post some reviews once my tank gets wet. This beast alone is suppose to be strong enough for my tank. __________________ 560gal in the making

10/11/2016, 06:47 PM	#38
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	I have decided to give the German product a try.. bought the Panta Rhei ECM63. __________________ 560gal in the making

10/15/2016, 01:12 AM	#40
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	good news is sump is finished. bad news delivery guy got "stuck". so I'll see if I can get it this weekend.. in the mean while. some pictures of new equipment Panta Rhei ECM 63 pump. This and 4 SS should handle all the flow needs for now very expensive snail guard... and no instruction on how to install it.. __________________ 560gal in the making

10/15/2016, 05:38 AM	#41
Achilles Torben Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 582	These pumps are monsters! I have four of these. To much. Grüße Torben Gesendet mit Tapatalk

10/15/2016, 10:01 AM	#42
robbous Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 284	Dam you go all out on the toys.... Very nice! __________________ New Hampshire USA Current Tank Info: 500 Gallon display tank 200 gallon basement sump

10/15/2016, 11:40 AM	#44
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	Spectrapure maxcap unit arrived reef octopus skim collector __________________ 560gal in the making

10/15/2016, 12:26 PM	#46
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	thanks! got it to work. how big is your tank to require 4 ECM63? __________________ 560gal in the making

10/15/2016, 03:28 PM	#47
Achilles Torben Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 582	Doesn't require. Two may be enough but I want reserve. Build treat here is "Angeltown" 5.500 liter Grüße Torben Gesendet mit Tapatalk

10/15/2016, 03:30 PM	#48
Achilles Torben Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 582	Use this pumps for 12 months already without snail guard and props doesn't damage. Some little fish died in there so I bought snail guard. Grüße Torben Gesendet mit Tapatalk

10/15/2016, 04:17 PM	#49
sayitfast Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tucson AZ. Posts: 54	Looks like its going to be amazing... __________________ There’s a Way To Do It Better—Find It ~Thomas Edison Half of everything in this hobby wants to eat the other half... Current Tank Info: Working on an Elos