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I am also very impressed with the probidio products and will continue to use both in the future, but probably not as often, but on a regular schedule.
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01/26/2016, 08:34 PM | #2829 |
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It's been about a month so I don't know if they're completely gone but I do not see them. I only registered after seeing that advice to give/sell corals from a dino-infected tank. I simply felt that is extremely irresponsible akin to telling someone with AIDS to go ahead and have unprotected sex in hopes that their immune system will fight it off. Again, I've never had dinos before in 10 years and they exploded very shortly after introducing frags that came from a dino infested tank.
As for the method(s) I used, I did not want to use H2O2, AlgaeX, Dinoxal, raise ALK, or any extended blackouts as my corals would suffer too much. Once I realized what I had, I began doing my research which lead me to this thread. I started somewhere in the middle and read up on Montireef adding his skimmate back into the tank which worked for him but he didn't know why nor could replicate it. I read up on Porkchop's UV method so I borrowed one from a friend who has a pond. And then cal_stir had great success with his dirty method so I included that in my plan on attack. I wanted to use a multi-pronged approach that made sense - get them into the water stream through a short blackout, eradicate them with strong UV, and finish them off with competition. Basically these posts are the methods I used: Montireef's magic skimmate: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=557 PorkChopExpress UV method: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...6#post23370006 cal_stir dirty method: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...6#post23951736 So thank you to those 3 pioneers for helping me with my problem! |
01/26/2016, 10:03 PM | #2830 | |
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01/26/2016, 10:04 PM | #2831 |
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01/26/2016, 10:09 PM | #2832 |
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$55.80 and free shipping. Unsure if it's expensive to you or cheap? I have quite a bit of rock so I don't think it'll play a huge role but I do not have any rock/ruble/whatever in my sump so I guess I can give it a shot.
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01/26/2016, 10:18 PM | #2834 |
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Wow, you guys are still on this thread!!! Still fighting Dinos? Mine have never came back after the steps I took explained on Page 58. I kept my lights down very low and only on for 6 hours a day until recently so my corals all kinda shrunk a bit. But they are making a triumphant return... Instead of Dino i'm fighting my xenia..... |
01/26/2016, 10:21 PM | #2835 |
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It's not cheap for 4 lbs of dry rock but if it acts like 50 and is a place for competing bacteria to live I'm willing to try it!
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01/26/2016, 10:27 PM | #2836 |
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01/26/2016, 11:33 PM | #2837 | |
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01/27/2016, 08:34 AM | #2839 | ||
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There's no LR that comes close to the porousity of the Cermedia blocks. I think a block is equivalent to something around 50-100 lbs of good LR. Just a wild guess. Lots of good info on cermedia's website. Quote:
Plates can't house denitrifying bacteria. Only blocks can. Thicker = anaerobic bac in the middle = consume nitrates.
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I've dosed about 1.5x the suggested bacteria in a bottle amounts, no cloudy tank this morning (I've had cloudy water WITHOUT dosing bottles though I couldn't absolutely be certain they were bacteria blooms) No appreciable change, though clearly 1 day in I'm not expecting one. |
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I recommended selling or giving to a robust established tank. That assumes full disclosure and agreement of the buyer.
If you contracted dinos from a coral, then your tank was already susceptible to it. Most biodiversity mature tanks should not be. I guess I should have been more clear. Established tanks are not the same as old tanks. Sometimes old tanks lose biodiversity as a few organisms win more over time and drive others into extinction. I suspect smaller tanks are more susceptible to this. It's a fair point to share the history of the tank if you sell or give coral.
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ah yes i Bought the block version too, the 8x8x4. ill be going to my lfs and buying a piece of rock from there too because i just realized i started out with only dry rock and apparently this is a contributing factor??
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01/27/2016, 01:22 PM | #2843 |
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Speculation, but logically if you have different kinds of bacteria (variety which may be found in the liverock bin at your local LFS, or not) it would be easier to out compete the dinos. If the answer were as simple as "this particular bacteria really overpowers Dino's" we'd probably have a bacteria in a bottle solution labeled as a "Cure" for dinoflagellates.
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01/27/2016, 01:38 PM | #2844 |
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yeah that makes sense.
are those bacteria in a bottle people are adding self sustainable in our aquarium or does it require redosing? do the strains reproduce or they slowly die off? |
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another thing i tried was removing the LR that had dinos and basting the dino infested area of the LR with peroxide. i then returned the LR...i think it knocks it back so the dosing of beneficial bacteria can take over...
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I wonder what would happen if I dumped in the dinoflagellates from dinopet into my reef tank. How sick would that be? Also, maybe these dinos could out compete the dinos we have? They aren't brown and ugly like ours is. Just a thought.
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Bottle of dino-x ordered. Let's see what this does.
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