Thought Flurry clowns were peaceful

jallard · 11/04/2018, 06:33 AM

So I Noticed my Flurry clowns were chasing my young Flame angle around and thought it would get better. Yesterday I noticed my angles fins were torn up and 1/2 of his tail fin was missing. This morning the angle was dead and being chewed on by my hermit crab.

My clowns are smallish.. female is maybe 1.25" and the male is smaller of corse. They haven't been hosting anything... not even my sebae (malu). Im surprised they are this aggressive. My purple dottyback is untouched and doing fine.

BonsaiNut · 11/04/2018, 08:22 AM

LOL what is a "flurry" clown? This designer name thing is getting out of hand.

jallard · 11/04/2018, 12:14 PM

I agree....i just like their coloration. They are ocellaris clowns

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Kinetic · 11/04/2018, 11:52 PM

Most clowns, even ocellaris clowns will stupidly protect their territory from anything that seems threatening (including the hand of a human).

34g tank is probably their entire "anemone," or their entire territory. An orange flame angel would definitely be a threat. A young one would probably get destroyed by a clown. An adult would probably be able to fight back and the ocellaris probably wouldn't chase it.

Was the flame angel added after the clowns? If so, that'll do it. Probably best, as I think even a 34g is on the smaller side for a flame angel AND clowns.

lpsouth1978 · 11/05/2018, 08:21 AM

ALL clowns can be quite aggressive and territorial, some more than others. Percs and occs are some of the less aggressive breeds, but that does not mean that they are friendly or peaceful to all other fish.

davocean · 11/05/2018, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kinetic

Most clowns, even ocellaris clowns will stupidly protect their territory from anything that seems threatening (including the hand of a human).

34g tank is probably their entire "anemone," or their entire territory. An orange flame angel would definitely be a threat. A young one would probably get destroyed by a clown. An adult would probably be able to fight back and the ocellaris probably wouldn't chase it.

Was the flame angel added after the clowns? If so, that'll do it. Probably best, as I think even a 34g is on the smaller side for a flame angel AND clowns.

This.
I do see that often tank bred clowns seem more peaceful generally speaking, they seem to recognize the hand as a good thing, and may not have had to defend territory like wild caught, but once they have been challenged for space or territory they can step up in defending it as good as any other clowns.
Your issue is most likely a space/tank size issue.

jallard · 11/05/2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by davocean

This.
I do see that often tank bred clowns seem more peaceful generally speaking, they seem to recognize the hand as a good thing, and may not have had to defend territory like wild caught, but once they have been challenged for space or territory they can step up in defending it as good as any other clowns.
Your issue is most likely a space/tank size issue.

They are not shy... thats for sure. They leave my dottyback alone...guess thats a good thing

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davocean · 11/05/2018, 03:42 PM

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They are not shy... thats for sure. They leave my dottyback alone...guess thats a good thing

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Dotty's hold their own just fine, in fact many can be just as or even more mean than any clowns, hopefully your doty remains peaceful.

11/04/2018, 06:33 AM	#1
jallard Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY Posts: 2,960	Thought Flurry clowns were peaceful So I Noticed my Flurry clowns were chasing my young Flame angle around and thought it would get better. Yesterday I noticed my angles fins were torn up and 1/2 of his tail fin was missing. This morning the angle was dead and being chewed on by my hermit crab. My clowns are smallish.. female is maybe 1.25" and the male is smaller of corse. They haven't been hosting anything... not even my sebae (malu). Im surprised they are this aggressive. My purple dottyback is untouched and doing fine. __________________ (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny (")_(")into your signature to help him gain world domination. URL removed per User Agreement Current Tank Info: 34g Solana

11/04/2018, 08:22 AM	#2
BonsaiNut Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,629	LOL what is a "flurry" clown? This designer name thing is getting out of hand. __________________ "You are a very fine person, Mr. Baggins, and I am very fond of you; but you are only quite a little fellow in a wide world after all!" - The Hobbit; J. R. R. Tolkien

11/04/2018, 12:14 PM	#3
jallard Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY Posts: 2,960	I agree....i just like their coloration. They are ocellaris clowns Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk __________________ (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny (")_(")into your signature to help him gain world domination. URL removed per User Agreement Current Tank Info: 34g Solana

11/05/2018, 08:21 AM	#5
lpsouth1978 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 915	ALL clowns can be quite aggressive and territorial, some more than others. Percs and occs are some of the less aggressive breeds, but that does not mean that they are friendly or peaceful to all other fish. __________________ Current tank: 40B work in progress w/20L sump

11/04/2018, 11:52 PM	#4
Kinetic Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 7,230	Most clowns, even ocellaris clowns will stupidly protect their territory from anything that seems threatening (including the hand of a human). 34g tank is probably their entire "anemone," or their entire territory. An orange flame angel would definitely be a threat. A young one would probably get destroyed by a clown. An adult would probably be able to fight back and the ocellaris probably wouldn't chase it. Was the flame angel added after the clowns? If so, that'll do it. Probably best, as I think even a 34g is on the smaller side for a flame angel AND clowns.