Aquaforest products- Component 1+2+3+

[oldman1974]

Originally Posted by Cyberdude

I have a medium stocked 90 gallon and pushing 190 ml each a day. When things start to take off it doesn't matter how large your tank is. It is all about consumption

Cheers for that info . Very much appreciated. I've been told to start at 50mls with each container . But looking at the calculations, I'm thinking I'm gonna be at 400mls per day so 5litres will only last me around a fortnight which I think is gonna cost me a small fortune compared to using the more expensive RedSea Foundation Powders I was using . I used to get 3 months from a 1kg of Calcium and Kh and 6 months from the Magnesium. I'll continue to use and see where I end up . Thanks once again


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[oldman1974]

Evening fellow Aquarists . I've been dosing Aquaforest using my dosing unit for 6 days now and reading my test kits it's dropping . I started at 50mls for them all but they seemed to be dropping . So I'm now at 80mls and they seem to be holding apart from my Kh . It seems to be slightly down but not much . Can I add 80mls of Cal/Mag/Components A and B strong ...
80mls of Mineral Salt and Components K Strong but say 100mls of Kh and Component C Strong or do I need to keep them all the same but manually dose Kh to Up it ?


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[plyle02]

Originally Posted by oldman1974

Evening fellow Aquarists . I've been dosing Aquaforest using my dosing unit for 6 days now and reading my test kits it's dropping . I started at 50mls for them all but they seemed to be dropping . So I'm now at 80mls and they seem to be holding apart from my Kh . It seems to be slightly down but not much . Can I add 80mls of Cal/Mag/Components A and B strong ...
80mls of Mineral Salt and Components K Strong but say 100mls of Kh and Component C Strong or do I need to keep them all the same but manually dose Kh to Up it ?


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Hello,
It will take awhile to balance out, and the set rate should be based on the second bottle containing the alk. You can manually add alk if you are happy with the ca and mg levels until they all balance out, which eventually will happen. This would likely be your best approach. Please update your current and desired levels, just to reference. Thanks,

[oldman1974]

Again many thanks . I'd like my Calcium to be 450 ... Mag to be 1350 and Kh to be 9.5 and after my latest water tests , they were Calcium 420 ... Mag 1350 and Kh 9.2 .


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[oldman1974]

I was dosing 60mls of each from the start and after my tests 2 days ago ... I upped it to 80mls . Will test again tonight and see where I am .


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[plyle02]

I was using 230ml per day on my 120 gallon sps tank

[oldman1974]

Wow ... ok , well I've just done another test and my Kh has dropped again by another .6 and is now 8.7 . Calcium and Mag stayed at 410 and 1320 respectively. What would you suggest dosing now ?


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[basser1]

Originally Posted by oldman1974

Wow ... ok , well I've just done another test and my Kh has dropped again by another .6 and is now 8.7 . Calcium and Mag stayed at 410 and 1320 respectively. What would you suggest dosing now ?


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Have you done any testing to see how much Alk your tank is consuming on a daily basis? I would test Alk for the next few days to see. Test the same time or close to it each day. I would not dose while doing the tests to get a more accurate reading.

[oldman1974]

Yes ... On a daily basis , it's dropping 0.3 per day whilst dosing 80 MLS . If I wasn't dosing , it would be dropping a lot quicker I'd say .


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[oldman1974]

Another test done and Calcium is 400 (Down another 10 so dropping 5 every day) Mag is 1280 (Slightly down from my desired 1350) but my Kh is now 9.1 (Up from 8.7 that it was two days ago where it had been dropping 0.3 every day) .
Question is ... Do I Up the dosing again to raise the Calcium and Mag or continue dosing 150mls seeing as my Kh is rising ?
Will the Calcium and Mag rise once my Kh has stables out or do I continue dosing 150mls of component 2 but Up component 1 ?



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[ivanotas]

Any issue if i mixed the new formula with respect same volume of the old mixing formulation?
new formula - mg goes to C3.

Component 1+ contains: Ca, Sr, Ba, Co, Mn, Cu, Fe, Zn, Ni, Cr. (50ml dissolved in 100 l/27 US gal raises Ca by 9 mg).

Component 2+ contains: NaHCO3, F, I. (50ml dissolved in 100 l/27 US gal raises KH by 1,3 dKH (Alk: 0,46 meg/l)).

Component 3+ contains: Mg, Reef Mineral Salt, K and B. (50ml dissolved in 100 l/27 US gal raises Mg by 0,6 mg)

[jerrythomas]

Hello to everyone, i bought component 123 and within 3-4 days i will start. At the moment i am using kent ab to keep the stable triad (6 ml) according to you how much do i have to dose of this aquaforest component? My tank is 45x45x45 with 17 kg of rocks and also calculating the space left up without water I think I have on the 65/70 liter net (17/18 gal).






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[flananuts]

I've been running Comp1,2,3 for close to a year now and I've been able to minimize my water changes by a lot! A little laziness on my end has me battling GHA now but I'll win. My question is that I have only been testing ALK and I adjust my dosing as needed to keep it at 7.9. My mixed reef is flourishing under my radion 30w gen1 in a 43 gallon tank. My question is with only measuring ALK (and weekly phosphate and nitrate) do I really need to measure Ca and Mg? Fwiw I also am vodka dosing with my ghl to boot my nitrate export.


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[120reefer]

Originally Posted by flananuts

I've been running Comp1,2,3 for close to a year now and I've been able to minimize my water changes by a lot! A little laziness on my end has me battling GHA now but I'll win. My question is that I have only been testing ALK and I adjust my dosing as needed to keep it at 7.9. My mixed reef is flourishing under my radion 30w gen1 in a 43 gallon tank. My question is with only measuring ALK (and weekly phosphate and nitrate) do I really need to measure Ca and Mg? Fwiw I also am vodka dosing with my ghl to boot my nitrate export.


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Do you really need to measure Ca & Mg.

I say yes although I don't believe you'll find anything grossly out of balance.... I wouldn't be able to help myself lol .

It's always a good idea to do weekly testing. I always test for anything I dose to my tanks .


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[sunho2002]

Hello
I'm using calcium reactor . And media is aragonite.

Also I have component 1+2+3 and dosing pump. (not use yet)

My SPS tank parameter
35ppt, 78.8℉ (26c)
Ca : 440
Mg : 1440
dKH : 7.7
Alk : 2.73
NO3 : 0 ~ 0.05
PO4 : 0 ~ 0.03
600 * 500 * 500 cube

Question
Should I use componet 1+2+3+?

Or Would it be better to add trace elements such as irons and iodine without using 1 + 2 + 3?

[sunho2002]

Oh! There post was a missing part.

potassium : 390~400

And I'm use
AF Energy
AF Build
AF Vitavility
AF Amino Mix

I want use calcium reactor.

And I want coral growth&color
What should I do?

[sunho2002]

And I'm tank picture

[sunho2002]

Um.. this post is not delete? .. Sorry..T.T

And I'm using multi reactor AF90
Phostphate Minus
Zeo Mix
Carbon

[120reefer]

Originally Posted by sunho2002

Hello

I'm using calcium reactor . And media is aragonite.



Also I have component 1+2+3 and dosing pump. (not use yet)



My SPS tank parameter

35ppt, 78.8℉ (26c)

Ca : 440

Mg : 1440

dKH : 7.7

Alk : 2.73

NO3 : 0 ~ 0.05

PO4 : 0 ~ 0.03

600 * 500 * 500 cube



Question

Should I use componet 1+2+3+?



Or Would it be better to add trace elements such as irons and iodine without using 1 + 2 + 3?

You can use components 1,2,3 or a calcium reactor but you shouldn't need both.

If you use your calcium reactor then you can make up your trace elements by using



If you need potassium then you can also dose kalium.

If you choose to use components 1+,2+,3+ it contains everything you need.


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[Mohammed]

Hi,
From the AF videos it seems the mag goes into the reef salt (c) and not the calcium (a). Also onthe vid it says 100ml of (b) will raise dkh by 1.6 in 100lt. This is varying in the thread. What is the correct mix and dkh rise per 100ml as i'd like to switch over from kalk so would like to have a reasonable starting point.

[120reefer]

Originally Posted by Mohammed

Hi,
From the AF videos it seems the mag goes into the reef salt (c) and not the calcium (a). Also onthe vid it says 100ml of (b) will raise dkh by 1.6 in 100lt. This is varying in the thread. What is the correct mix and dkh rise per 100ml as i'd like to switch over from kalk so would like to have a reasonable starting point.

http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/component-1-2-3/ if using the premixed components 1+, 2+,3+ then the components 2+ states:

50ml dissolved in 100 l/27 US gal raises KH by 1,3 dKH (Alk: 0,46 meg/l)).




http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/kh-buffer/
If your mixing just the KH buffer alone it states:

10g KH Buffer increases by about*3,3 dKH (Alk. 1,18meg/l) in 100L.*100ml KH Buffer*solution increases by about 1,60 dKH in 100L of water.






This is the original recipe to mix your own components 1,2,3.

The only difference between the original recipe and the new one is you can put the magnesium into component 3. It's your choice and both work well.

I've also included a copy of the Aquaforest guide.

http://aquaforest.eu/wp-content/uplo...ide_EN_RGB.pdf


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[MichaelW]

Just to add to the above about the new "recipe" and the old "recipe". If you use the system properly and dose all 3 liquids the same amount... It makes no difference where the mag is (1 or3) it is still 10grams in 1L of water and same amount dosed. So in tbeory the recipe is exactly the same in what gets added to the tank

[120reefer]

Originally Posted by MichaelW

Just to add to the above about the new "recipe" and the old "recipe". If you use the system properly and dose all 3 liquids the same amount... It makes no difference where the mag is (1 or3) it is still 10grams in 1L of water and same amount dosed. So in tbeory the recipe is exactly the same in what gets added to the tank

Exactly!


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[Ichigeki]

Originally Posted by MichaelW

I have not used your product yet. I wanted to get some answers to questions I had about the product before trying.
In your example you are basing the 150ml dose for each container based on the tanks alkalinity demand? So the tank needs 150 ml of alk component to keep alk steady, so dose 150 of all 3 components.
Like mentioned above, with my current products, I do not dose any magnesium and it stays in line. I do of course dose calcium...... With your product every time I dose calcium I will also dose magnesium... Therefore wouldn't my magnesium raise above desired levels?

Hey Michael I'm having the same issue here my magnesium is good and I don't need to dose it but I'm trying to switch to AF and they are telling me that I need to dose 3 equal so did you dose the 3 after all???

[MichaelW]

Originally Posted by Ichigeki

Hey Michael I'm having the same issue here my magnesium is good and I don't need to dose it but I'm trying to switch to AF and they are telling me that I need to dose 3 equal so did you dose the 3 after all???

Yep dosed all 3 equally. System works great after you get the 3 balanced out. Initially i actually had a bad mag test kit that was giving me a reading of high all the time so making it seem like i didnt need to dose when my mag wasnt as high as i thought. I really like the comp 123+ system and think it works very well.