Kessil A360WE

[Zacktosterone]

I'm saying the a360 changes spectrums. So its like buying different colors of 150 in one unit for less money

[bif24701]

Originally Posted by Zacktosterone

I'm saying the a360 changes spectrums. So its like buying different colors of 150 in one unit for less money

Right, I just wanted to add to what you said, thanks. It is exactly that. Before I had them install I thought that I would have to supplement the lights with a T5 or another 150 purple or something due to others comments suggestions. However after now I see that isn't required on bit! The folks making those comments must have never had/seen a 350 or 360 in action.

[zombot]

Thinking abou tthese lights as well. Are the LED's able to be changed out like the Mitra/Radion/AIs?

[Zacktosterone]

Ok I get what your saying. I run t5s with my a360s anyway though lol.

[Zacktosterone]

Originally Posted by zombot

Thinking abou tthese lights as well. Are the LED's able to be changed out like the Mitra/Radion/AIs?

In what respect? To replace a part? Yes. To upgrade? No

[ReefDoberman]

Great thread for kessil. They don't get enough love around RC and I really believe it's because they are such great simple lights that users done need to ask tons of questions or get feedback/justification on their operation or settings.

My biggest piece of advice for anyone interested in kessil is to buy two for every 24x24 area and also that the wide angle works just fine on 30" tanks if you do.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by Laardvark

Do you have any experience with the Kessil A150W? If so, how does the color compare to the 360? I just got a 150 this week for my nano, figured I'd try it out to see how I liked it (is my first LED) before dropping big$ on the 360's. My critters are quite happy with it so far (my Maxima actually seems to like it better than the MH I had, kind of surprised), but I'm not loving the look of the tank with it- it's a bit too blue and stark for my liking. When I do my big tank I can add a few supplemental T5's to take care of the hard shadows but I'd really like to warm up the blue tones a bit. How much does the white adjustment on the 360 help in toning down the blue look?

A very nice thing with the 150 is my tank would fluctuate 5-7* between lights on\lights off with the MH and is perfectly stable with the LED- I'm sure that make my critters much happier.

That is the problem with A150's you cannot adjust them.

I bought one of each before the A350 came out and spend 1,000 when I could have gotten it for 500 (Half the Price).

I knew the 350 was coming out but I was only told it was three times the power which I obviously didn't need for a 10 Gallon Aquarium.

I wish somebody would have told me you could change the colors on them and I would have waited.

But I do have them on two Tanks so it kind of worked out but I really wish you could adjust them like you can on the bigger models.

Seems like you bought the wrong one like I did unfortunatly.

You do not have to worry about that with the A350 / A360 since you can get any color you want.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by bif24701

The 150s color is not adjustable as in the 350/360. With the 350 or 360 you can control the white And blue mix to suit your taste. The 150 could be used as a supplement as I may add the 150 actinic/purple. I am sure that the 350 or 360 will provide exactly the color you want. All you have to do is adjust a dial on the top to find the color you want.

The 20K Deep Ocean Blue Actinic is NOT Purple it is Blue.

If you want a more Purple look get the 15K Ocean Blue.

[bif24701]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

The 20K Deep Ocean Blue Actinic is NOT Purple it is Blue.



If you want a more Purple look get the 15K Ocean Blue.

Your right, there is another that is purple though I'm not sure if is intended for aquarium use.

[bif24701]

Originally Posted by ReefDoberman

Great thread for kessil. They don't get enough love around RC and I really believe it's because they are such great simple lights that users done need to ask tons of questions or get feedback/justification on their operation or settings.

My biggest piece of advice for anyone interested in kessil is to buy two for every 24x24 area and also that the wide angle works just fine on 30" tanks if you do.

I also think the get dismissed because of the small size and assume they are not capable and nothing could be further from the truth.

[bif24701]

Originally Posted by ReefDoberman

Great thread for kessil. They don't get enough love around RC and I really believe it's because they are such great simple lights that users done need to ask tons of questions or get feedback/justification on their operation or settings.

My biggest piece of advice for anyone interested in kessil is to buy two for every 24x24 area and also that the wide angle works just fine on 30" tanks if you do.

Good advice! The narrow models also grow well at 30"+. My LFS has them mounted 18" from the water and growing LPS at the sand more than 30" underwater and thriving.

[bif24701]

Reefdoberman, that's is precisely why I started this thread. I had done so much research on lighting and became more and more interested in Kessil. The more research I did it became apparent that Kessil wasn't getting the attention I thought it should have for being a great light, company, manufacture, and customer support. I knew that because they where new to reef aquariums older generations of refeers would not have the kind of positive and long term experience with them as with MH. So I created this topic in hopes to one, research the Kessil lights further, second to document my own research and findings, third for the purpose of getting feedback from other members. I hope to keep this going long term.

[Zacktosterone]

I purchased them because I wanted the same shimmer as a metal halide and I wanted to be able to add t5s without the hydro bill

[Laardvark]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

Seems like you bought the wrong one like I did unfortunatly.

That's exactly what you've got me thinking. I was thinking it would be a good way to "test the water" with a Kessel light for less $$ than a 360, but now I see it's not really a direct comparison. I'm thinking of returning it and picking up a 360 instead, even if it is a bit overkill for a 10 gallon nano.

[Zacktosterone]

Tanks that are shallow and 3 feet long who are looking for one solid fixture should grab a maxspect razor

[bif24701]

Originally Posted by Laardvark

That's exactly what you've got me thinking. I was thinking it would be a good way to "test the water" with a Kessel light for less $$ than a 360, but now I see it's not really a direct comparison. I'm thinking of returning it and picking up a 360 instead, even if it is a bit overkill for a 10 gallon nano.

According to my LFS Kessil is having a sale on the A360WE and the 350s. I thought it was just the LFS hooking it up, lol. The owner told me he had wished he had a heads up on the sale because he just bought a few more couple months ago. Though if your LFS is willing to pass the savings to you is a different story.

[Mr.C]

Originally Posted by Laardvark

That's exactly what you've got me thinking. I was thinking it would be a good way to "test the water" with a Kessel light for less $$ than a 360, but now I see it's not really a direct comparison. I'm thinking of returning it and picking up a 360 instead, even if it is a bit overkill for a 10 gallon nano.

I have the 360we on a 24x24x30 and it is about perfect. But I think it would be to much for just a 10g nano. You would have to keep it turned way down all the time anyway. Then again, I guess it would leave you with a light you can use if you get a bigger tank.

[bif24701]

Originally Posted by Mr.C

I have the 360we on a 24x24x30 and it is about perfect. But I think it would be to much for just a 10g nano. You would have to keep it turned way down all the time anyway. Then again, I guess it would leave you with a light you can use if you get a bigger tank.

I am hard to convince that you would need more than one A360WE for a 24"x24x 30 deep area even for the most demanding tanks. Also stating otherwise I think would turn some folks off from considering these awesome fixtures.


I know of a current system that has a 6" diameter red monti in complete shadow yet thriving on reflected light off the glass. Next time I'm there (near future for sure) I'll get a picture of it.

[ReefDoberman]

QUOTE=bif24701;22496596]I am hard to convince that you would need more than one A360WE for a 24"x24x 30 deep area even for the most demanding tanks. Also stating otherwise I think would turn some folks off from considering these awesome fixtures.


I know of a current system that has a 6" diameter red monti in complete shadow yet thriving on reflected light off the glass. Next time I'm there (near future for sure) I'll get a picture of it.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying that you "need" two on a 24x24 tank for your corals to live. In fact most areas that size would do fine coral wise with just one. But speaking from pure ascetics a lot of people want that MH pop and to the eye, one kessil may appear dim even though corals the thrive under it. I think people dismiss kessil or give up on them because they undersize their need or only go by the "eye test." My 60 bube and 74 column did just fine with one (I have a red monti, sps, 3 clams and a carpet anemone plus a ton of lps). But wow, what a difference two makes.

[bif24701]

Originally Posted by ReefDoberman

QUOTE=bif24701;22496596]I am hard to convince that you would need more than one A360WE for a 24"x24x 30 deep area even for the most demanding tanks. Also stating otherwise I think would turn some folks off from considering these awesome fixtures.





I know of a current system that has a 6" diameter red monti in complete shadow yet thriving on reflected light off the glass. Next time I'm there (near future for sure) I'll get a picture of it.

I'm not saying that you "need" two on a 24x24 tank for your corals to live. In fact most areas that size would do fine coral wise with just one. But speaking from pure ascetics a lot of people want that MH pop and to the eye, one kessil may appear dim even though corals the thrive under it. I think people dismiss kessil or give up on them because they undersize their need or only go by the "eye test." My 60 bube and 74 column did just fine with one (I have a red monti, sps, 3 clams and a carpet anemone plus a ton of lps). But wow, what a difference two makes.[/QUOTE]


True, I have certainly thought about adding more. I even have an Aquaticlife dual T5HO laying around that I am strongly considering adding to my display. Just need different bulbs.

[bif24701]

Video of the shimmer over my 120
http://youtu.be/mqFDj8ZpvmE

[zombot]

Originally Posted by Zacktosterone

In what respect? To replace a part? Yes. To upgrade? No

So if the LEDS can be replaced in them?

[bif24701]

Originally Posted by zombot

So if the LEDS can be replaced in them?

No, but really see no need for that. Cost of replacing highend LEDs, would be the same as whole fixture.

[Reefvet]

Kessil certainly isn't standing still in their development.

They're introducing yet another new A360 Tuna and a new A150

[aquaman05]

Originally Posted by bif24701

According to my LFS Kessil is having a sale on the A360WE and the 350s. I thought it was just the LFS hooking it up, lol. The owner told me he had wished he had a heads up on the sale because he just bought a few more couple months ago. Though if your LFS is willing to pass the savings to you is a different story.

I don't see this sale anywhere ?