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12/31/2017, 04:57 PM | #1 |
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Semi Aggressive Fish Plan
Hello do you think that the percula clowns (the 2 that I already had wich are aggressive eaters) Will be able to deal with more aggressive tank mates like the long nose hawk fish, coral bueaty angelfish, and a few cromis. And do you think having more cromis means that there will be less aggression focused on one fish like an Asian arowana community and do you think that having other semi-aggressive fish will keep the cromis more distracted.
Ps. Do you have any suggestions of any other fish that will do good in a semi aggressive tank. And are canary fang blennys good or not (oh and I will have corals and more invertebrates in the future)(and if I get a tang wich one should I get I have a 30 Gallon) |
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Clowns are pushy by nature, and if centered in a nem can take care of themselves. Chromis function as 'dither fish', rushing madly about (only 1 per 50 gallon tank) to reassure the others there are no sharks. Alas, there is no tang that will work in a 30. You need toward a hundred gallons for the smallest: they're too big and too active. The canary blenny is good---in general, the blennies, gobies, dartfish (firefish et al) and small jawfish will do well for you, including maybe the royal gramma. Avoid angels if you want coral.
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12/31/2017, 07:17 PM | #4 |
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30 gal is too small for a Coral Beauty. Hawk Fish seem to get along well with clowns.
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and do you think any type of sand sifter would do good if so can you list them thanks |
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12/31/2017, 07:51 PM | #6 |
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http://m.liveaquaria.com
That is a great website to search for future inhabitants. They have a lot of info on individual fish from diet to tank requirements. They list compatibility as well. I don't believe there are any dwarf angels suited for a 30g. As for chromis you will be hard pressed to find anyone on here that will say it's ok to keep 4 in a 30g, personally wouldn't try even one in a 30g. Not all but a lot of sand sifters tend to eat all the beneficial living critters out of the sand bed then slowly starve to death. That website I linked will have all that as well.
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The only angel that might work is a dwarf. I have no experience with them, so I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending one.
I have tried to keep a small group of Chromis in a 30 and failed miserably twice. All but one died within a couple weeks both times. The one that was left wound up hiding in the corner for the rest of its life, seemingly afraid of its own shadow. I can't help much with sand sifters either. I've had really good luck with Nassarius snails, but they just bury themselves and don't do much sifting. They would help keep the top layer aerated, but that's about it. If you do get some, get the big ones. Sometimes they're referred to as Super Tongan. Petco sells them for less than $2 apiece.
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I will stay away from chromis and posibly think of anthias or a wrasse maby even a dotty back |
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I have a blackface bicolor chromis in my 20 gallon. I also have an engineer goby (12") that really moves the sand around. But I might as well be blacklisted from this site so I can't make any recommendations. I can tell you that the chromis is a real jerk and that limits me. Even I would not do an angel or tang in any thing less than 55 gallons.
I come from cichlid tanks and I have used 2 tactics for agression. Lots and lots of hiding places and/or a ton of fish to disperse the agression. I would think the same theories apply here. A good sand sifter is a fighting conch. I have one that I hardly ever see above ground but it took about 6 weeks before it went under the substrate.
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1 Percula Clownfish 2
fire fish 2 or 1 Longnose hawkfish Neon blue goby 2 or 1 splendid dottyback 1.5 Percula Clownfish 2 fire fish 2 or 1 Longnose hawkfish Neon blue goby 2 or 1 2 Percula clownfish 2 Orange-Back Fairy Wrasse or other wrasse or 2 Longnose hawkfish Splendid dottyback 3 Percula clownfish 2 Longnose hawkfish Splendid dottyback Toby puffer or saddle puffer 4 Percula clownfish 2 Longnose hawkfish Neon blue goby 2 or 1 Splendid dottyback 5 Percula clownfish 2 Longnose hawkfish firefish 2 or 1 Swales Swissguard Basslet Neon blue goby Which of the list do you think is best in a 30 long. |
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I would advise against putting more than one of any species in the same tank unless they are a mated pair, and mated pairs are generally expensive and hard to find. Even the gobies might fight with each other.
Personally, I would go with a Clown. Hawk, Basslet, and Dottyback combo, if you want semi-aggressive. That would be about your limit for a 30. Gobies, Firefish, and Fairy Wrasse are peaceful and might get bullied or out-competed for food. I've had good luck with the Splendid Dottyback. It doesn't seem as aggressive as some of the other Dottybacks, which can be real bullies.
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Thanks for the info
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Only one firefish! Period!
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I have all these guys living in a 100 gallon cube in peace:
Purple Tang (3)Orange Anthias Purple Headed Firefish (2)Perc Clowns Tomato Clown Bi-Color Blenny Royal Gramma Mated Pair of Yellow Watchman Gobies Long Nosed Hawkfish Sand Shifting Goby Ruby Red Dragonette Yellow Clown Goby
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