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Old 09/10/2018, 07:17 PM   #1
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Who breeds Bangais?

My pair of Bangai cardinals have spawned several times and I actually have three young which survived and are growing rapidly - all in a 90 gallon reef tank. I thought for sure the marine betta (comet) and the chalk basses would have eaten them all, but those three made it.

I feed that tank newly hatched baby brine three times a day, along with live daphnia, just in case more Bangais are hiding in the rock work. The outflow of one of the sump pumps goes to the bottom and full length of the tank, under the rocks, and it shoots food right to the bottom dwellers. I set it up this way for when I get a mandarin goby or leopard wrasse.

The only thing I did that's out of the ordinary is to feed the fish live mosquito larvae several times a day for the three months prior to the Bangai spawning.

I've been feeding mosquito larvae to saltwater fish for about ten years (or more) and it's their favorite food by far. And it's saved me a lot of money, as I simply net it out of my rain barrels.

I've had fish with extreme Mycobacteria marinum and kept them alive for months by feeding mosquito larvae.

I'd like to put the Bangais in a 40 gallon breeding tank, but I'm not sure how to get them out without damaging my corals - maybe a trap of some sort, like a pop bottle with an inverted top?

Who else here is breeding Bangais, and what kind of set up do you use? When I get them out of the display I'll probably breed them the same way I breed African cichlids. I also have a huge Diadema urchin I can place in the breeder. It's my understanding Bangai young hide in the spines of this urchin.


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Old 09/10/2018, 08:20 PM   #2
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I breed bangaiis along with with other species of fish and shrimp. Sounds like your doing just fine. Check out my thread on striped blennies in the breeding forum. I have a pdf from University of Hawaii, going into detail from start to finish. Thereís some good info in it. Just PM your email address. Canít seem to post files, only links. So I need to set up a Dropbox. My Facebook page is @paulsPodsAZ. Iíve got a lot of great pics and video of my breeding projects. Check it out. Anyways, heres a video of my last Bangaii clutch.

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Old 09/10/2018, 08:25 PM   #3
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My pair of Bangai cardinals have spawned several times and I actually have three young which survived and are growing rapidly - all in a 90 gallon reef tank. I thought for sure the marine betta (comet) and the chalk basses would have eaten them all, but those three made it.



I feed that tank newly hatched baby brine three times a day, along with live daphnia, just in case more Bangais are hiding in the rock work. The outflow of one of the sump pumps goes to the bottom and full length of the tank, under the rocks, and it shoots food right to the bottom dwellers. I set it up this way for when I get a mandarin goby or leopard wrasse.



The only thing I did that's out of the ordinary is to feed the fish live mosquito larvae several times a day for the three months prior to the Bangai spawning.



I've been feeding mosquito larvae to saltwater fish for about ten years (or more) and it's their favorite food by far. And it's saved me a lot of money, as I simply net it out of my rain barrels.



I've had fish with extreme Mycobacteria marinum and kept them alive for months by feeding mosquito larvae.



I'd like to put the Bangais in a 40 gallon breeding tank, but I'm not sure how to get them out without damaging my corals - maybe a trap of some sort, like a pop bottle with an inverted top?



Who else here is breeding Bangais, and what kind of set up do you use? When I get them out of the display I'll probably breed them the same way I breed African cichlids. I also have a huge Diadema urchin I can place in the breeder. It's my understanding Bangai young hide in the spines of this urchin.


Mosquito larvae is a great addition to your conditioning diet for breeding. They go nuts for those! I have a pool and let it go last year because of Illness. I had an endless supply. Some breeders use them to stimulate spawning.
Youíre correct with the urchin. Itís long spine urchins. The fry will instinctively hover between spines. I have two, but when I am raising new fry, I use an artificial urchin that I made from reef putty and zip ties. There no food for the urchin in the rearing tank.


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Old 09/11/2018, 10:16 AM   #4
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Is there anything cuter than newborn Bangai cardinals?

Thanks for the input!


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Old 09/14/2018, 10:57 AM   #5
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I have bred clownfish in the past. My Bangaii just spawned. I am concerned about the length of time the male does not eat. How long is it between spawns. Does he have enough time to regain his strength for the next spawn? I have read where people isolate the male between spawns to give him time to recuperate.

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I have bred clownfish in the past. My Bangaii just spawned. I am concerned about the length of time the male does not eat. How long is it between spawns. Does he have enough time to regain his strength for the next spawn?



https://youtu.be/NV5k3ZOPcD0


Awesome! But they look so small! How old are they? CHeck these little guys out. Striped blennies born almost 60 days ago. I have one baby bagaii left from last clutch and more on the way I think. Did they go thru the long mating dance?


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Old 09/14/2018, 11:12 AM   #7
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Wow that is really great! I am not sure how old. I bought the male along with his companion from a local store in my area. The female died in a day. I think she died of sudden death syndrome. I thought that was only the babies that died from that. One minute she was hanging with the male and the next minute she was twitching and floating around the tank. I then ordered two from Live Aquaria. In a day or so one of the two paired up with the male I had and they chase away the third wheel. The tank is big enough I don't think they will kill the third. Eventually I will move the odd fish. Both fish are young. The female seems to be practically a baby. He is big enough to breed. But the female I would never have thought she was of breeding age/size.


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Old 09/14/2018, 11:18 AM   #8
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Yeah, when I saw that, it didnít look right, lol. I thought it looked the same size as the one baby I have left. He was born In February so I gues heís not a baby.
So yeah, thatís how the pairing works. When theyíre outcast like that, they turn dark In color and then end up dead soon. Itís like the get their feeling hurt or something.
So u didnít say, but did u notice a mating dance that lasted forever or they just paired up? And now they follow each other around?


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Old 09/14/2018, 11:25 AM   #9
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If this is his first clutch he is brooding, he may swallow them by accident. It will take about 21 days. After that, the fry will come popping out little by little or a lot at once. It could take up to a week or so for all fry to leave the mouth.
I would love for you to post your progress on my page @paulsPodsAZ. I have a ton of pics and video of my own breeding project over the last couple years. Iím really only getting started. I built a nice set of tanks with central circulation. About 18 tanks now in all I believe. Sounds like a lot, but the all fit nicely in my study. I even have a place for my Copepod, rotifer amd phyoplankton cultures. I was able to find stuff very cheap, so if you need anything or any advice from the knowledge Iíve collected so far let me know. This goes for anyone reading.


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Is there anything cuter than newborn Bangai cardinals?



Thanks for the input!


No, but these are pretty damn adorable as well!


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Old 09/14/2018, 11:52 AM   #11
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She was doing the shimmy and nipping for a few days at least. I thought she was just practicing due to her small size and age. Now she is protecting him. I will try to capture the babies (If he doesn't accidentally swallow them and let a buddy raise the babies. He is set up for breeding and offered to keep them.


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