Can ich transfer this way

Daddyrawg · 05/26/2019, 11:03 AM

So if I have a qt with ich undergoing hypo
And I check salinity daily with my hanna digital probe..then decide I wanna check my DT salinity or make saltwater am I in danger of transferring ich to DT?

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billdogg · 05/26/2019, 11:11 AM

Not as long as the transfer of any possibly contaminated water is in one way only. You should be using separate syringes or whatever to get your samples and then discarding any leftover rather than return it to a (any) tank.

Did that make sense? I've been in the woodshop creating zebrawood corner moldings for a vanity and my brain is a little mushy.

Daddyrawg · 05/26/2019, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by billdogg

Not as long as the transfer of any possibly contaminated water is in one way only. You should be using separate syringes or whatever to get your samples and then discarding any leftover rather than return it to a (any) tank.

Did that make sense? I've been in the woodshop creating zebrawood corner moldings for a vanity and my brain is a little mushy.

I use hana salinity checker and dip into water and it will definately be dry by the time I make saltwater etc..so it's not like I'll dip into qt then dip into DT immediately

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billdogg · 05/26/2019, 12:41 PM

Ich cysts can possible survive at least a short while out of water. I would suggest using another method to use your checker. Get yourself a few small containers - I use specimen vials, although even a disposable dixie cup would work and mark them so that you use the same one each time for that tank.

HumbleFish · 05/26/2019, 02:04 PM

Is this what you're using? https://hannainst.com/marine-salinit...r-hi98319.html

If so, it looks like you have to immerse the bottom part in water in order to test salinity (like a handheld TDS meter). It is a very bad idea to also use this on your DT without sterilizing it first. There are hypo resistant strains of Cryptocaryon, and also diseases which hypo doesn't treat (e.g. velvet, brook, uronema) which could be active in the QT water.

Daddyrawg · 05/26/2019, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HumbleFish

Is this what you're using? https://hannainst.com/marine-salinit...r-hi98319.html

If so, it looks like you have to immerse the bottom part in water in order to test salinity (like a handheld TDS meter). It is a very bad idea to also use this on your DT without sterilizing it first. There are hypo resistant strains of Cryptocaryon, and also diseases which hypo doesn't treat (e.g. velvet, brook, uronema) which could be active in the QT water.

Yes that's it..how would I sterilize it?

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HumbleFish · 05/26/2019, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddyrawg

Yes that's it..how would I sterilize it?

Dip it in a mild bleach:water (1:10) solution, rinse with RODI and let it dry with a fan blowing on it for 24 hrs.

Probably easier to just buy a second probe for your DT and water change station.

Daddyrawg · 05/26/2019, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HumbleFish

Dip it in a mild bleach:water (1:10) solution, rinse with RODI and let it dry with a fan blowing on it for 24 hrs.

Probably easier to just buy a second probe for your DT and water change station.

Nah that probe ain't cheap... I hope bleach wont damage probe..I may notify manufacture and see if it's ok to dip in bleach...so even if its dry for like 4 days the ich could be il an issue? I almost doubt that

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Pslreefer · 05/26/2019, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddyrawg

Nah that probe ain't cheap... I hope bleach wont damage probe..I may notify manufacture and see if it's ok to dip in bleach...so even if its dry for like 4 days the ich could be il an issue? I almost doubt that

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If its dry for 4 days no it isnt an issue, use some common sense...

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HumbleFish · 05/26/2019, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddyrawg

Nah that probe ain't cheap... I hope bleach wont damage probe..I may notify manufacture and see if it's ok to dip in bleach...so even if its dry for like 4 days the ich could be il an issue? I almost doubt that

~ 72 hours worth of drying time is the rule for TTM, so I'd say the same applies to your probe if using drying only for sterilisation.

Daddyrawg · 05/26/2019, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pslreefer

If its dry for 4 days no it isnt an issue, use some common sense...

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This guy! Roll eyes

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Daddyrawg · 05/26/2019, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HumbleFish

~ 72 hours worth of drying time is the rule for TTM, so I'd say the same applies to your probe if using drying only for sterilisation.

Thx humble

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Systemwizardinc · 05/26/2019, 05:54 PM

i have read everyone's post and if you leave it dry for 72hr every thing will be fine ich cant leave out of water

jjencek · 05/27/2019, 04:52 AM

I do not know the Hanna checkers, but can you just get a cup of water out of each of the tanks when measuring it and not return it back to the tank?

Even if the checker is contaminated and the water in the cups is contaminated, as long as you are not returning anything back to the tanks, shouldn't you be fine?

billdogg · 05/27/2019, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jjencek

I do not know the Hanna checkers, but can you just get a cup of water out of each of the tanks when measuring it and not return it back to the tank?

Even if the checker is contaminated and the water in the cups is contaminated, as long as you are not returning anything back to the tanks, shouldn't you be fine?

^^^This^^^

But maybe that's too easy???

HumbleFish · 05/27/2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jjencek

I do not know the Hanna checkers, but can you just get a cup of water out of each of the tanks when measuring it and not return it back to the tank?

Even if the checker is contaminated and the water in the cups is contaminated, as long as you are not returning anything back to the tanks, shouldn't you be fine?

^^ Yup, sometimes we overlook the obvious.

hkgar · 05/31/2019, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HumbleFish

~ 72 hours worth of drying time is the rule for TTM, so I'd say the same applies to your probe if using drying only for sterilisation.

TTM requires the fish be in the same tank 72 hours, but only requires 24 off dry time. (time the equipment is dry)

HumbleFish · 05/31/2019, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hkgar

TTM requires the fish be in the same tank 72 hours, but only requires 24 off dry time. (time the equipment is dry)

Whenever I perform a transfer, I immediately sanitize the tank + equipment with vinegar and begin the drying process (with the aid of a fan) for as long as possible before the next transfer. You'd be surprised the harsh conditions that Ich tomonts can survive. I would only trust a 24 hour dry off time if using bleach to sterilize.

ThRoewer · 05/31/2019, 03:22 PM

All my TTM equipment, including the acrylic containers I use for TTM, goes into a bucket with bleach for at least a day and is then rinsed well. I usually don't bother drying it.

I check my salinity with a handheld refractometer (I actually trust that more than the digital toys they sell for hobbyists) and usually just wipe it dry. When in doubt I use a pipette or other means to transfer a drop of the water to test on it.

05/26/2019, 11:03 AM	#1
Daddyrawg Registered Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 814	Can ich transfer this way So if I have a qt with ich undergoing hypo And I check salinity daily with my hanna digital probe..then decide I wanna check my DT salinity or make saltwater am I in danger of transferring ich to DT? Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

05/26/2019, 11:11 AM	#2
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	Not as long as the transfer of any possibly contaminated water is in one way only. You should be using separate syringes or whatever to get your samples and then discarding any leftover rather than return it to a (any) tank. Did that make sense? I've been in the woodshop creating zebrawood corner moldings for a vanity and my brain is a little mushy. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

05/26/2019, 12:41 PM	#4
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	Ich cysts can possible survive at least a short while out of water. I would suggest using another method to use your checker. Get yourself a few small containers - I use specimen vials, although even a disposable dixie cup would work and mark them so that you use the same one each time for that tank. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

05/31/2019, 03:22 PM	#19
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	All my TTM equipment, including the acrylic containers I use for TTM, goes into a bucket with bleach for at least a day and is then rinsed well. I usually don't bother drying it. I check my salinity with a handheld refractometer (I actually trust that more than the digital toys they sell for hobbyists) and usually just wipe it dry. When in doubt I use a pipette or other means to transfer a drop of the water to test on it. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

05/26/2019, 02:04 PM	#5
HumbleFish Moved On Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,757	Is this what you're using? https://hannainst.com/marine-salinit...r-hi98319.html If so, it looks like you have to immerse the bottom part in water in order to test salinity (like a handheld TDS meter). It is a very bad idea to also use this on your DT without sterilizing it first. There are hypo resistant strains of Cryptocaryon, and also diseases which hypo doesn't treat (e.g. velvet, brook, uronema) which could be active in the QT water.

05/26/2019, 05:54 PM	#13
Systemwizardinc Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 87	i have read everyone's post and if you leave it dry for 72hr every thing will be fine ich cant leave out of water

05/27/2019, 04:52 AM	#14
jjencek Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 366	I do not know the Hanna checkers, but can you just get a cup of water out of each of the tanks when measuring it and not return it back to the tank? Even if the checker is contaminated and the water in the cups is contaminated, as long as you are not returning anything back to the tanks, shouldn't you be fine?