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Unread 07/09/2017, 01:44 AM   #6576
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Do you think my new bulb line up below will get my sps colored up? Of course assuming all water chemistry is inline.

My new lineup.
◇ Front of Tank
• CH2 • ATI Blue +
• CH1 • Coral + just added
• CH2 • Geisseman Super Actinic
• CH2 • ATI Blue +
• CH1 • Coral + just added
• CH2 • ATI Blue +
◇ Back of Tank

Even more direct question, will I need a purple + to pull the pink colors out of my corals?


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Unread 07/09/2017, 04:13 AM   #6577
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CoralNerd,

That should be fine.......you may want to try to raise the coral's placement or lower the fixture closer to the water to improve the pink colors.........more intense light can help.

I use only Coral+ and Blue+ and can pull all acro colors.

I'd pass on the P+


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Unread 07/09/2017, 07:43 AM   #6578
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About to buy a sunpower 8x24w dimmable for a 70x70 30cm deep shallow. Really want the purple / deep blue look for as much pop as possible. All lps corals NO sps.. recommendations tube choice?


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Unread 07/09/2017, 12:45 PM   #6579
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About to buy a sunpower 8x24w dimmable for a 70x70 30cm deep shallow. Really want the purple / deep blue look for as much pop as possible. All lps corals NO sps.. recommendations tube choice?


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That case I would try one of two combos. First try

3 ati blue+
3 ati true actinic
2 ati purple+

If you don't love it

4 ati blue+
3 ati true actinic
1 ati purple+

The blue+\actinic combo is just lovely to look at. Fits your description perfectly. It is really the next best thing to royal blue LEDs alone. Maybe even better because the overall color is nicer


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Unread 08/20/2017, 07:52 PM   #6580
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My current 6bulb configuration. Really want some more blue but I feel like I'm missing some color in my reds/blues. LED really wiped out a lot of color for me (IMO). I also want to keep my current dusk/dawn bulbs in the current order. What do you guys suggest?

front
B+
Actinic
ABS/C+ (been playing with two in this position not sure which one I like)
B+
B+
P+
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Unread 08/20/2017, 10:28 PM   #6581
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My current 6bulb configuration. Really want some more blue but I feel like I'm missing some color in my reds/blues. LED really wiped out a lot of color for me (IMO). I also want to keep my current dusk/dawn bulbs in the current order. What do you guys suggest?

front
B+
Actinic
ABS/C+ (been playing with two in this position not sure which one I like)
B+
B+
P+
back
Your purple bulb is completely wasted in the rear slot like that. Needs to be middle or front of center.


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Unread 08/21/2017, 09:25 PM   #6582
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Your purple bulb is completely wasted in the rear slot like that. Needs to be middle or front of center.
I agree. I hate the placement of it. I'm thinking of getting rid of the C+/ABS bulb completely and replacing it with another B+.

any recommendations for bulb placement? I really want to keep my actinic and B+ in the Dusk/dawn setup.


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Unread 08/21/2017, 09:29 PM   #6583
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I agree. I hate the placement of it. I'm thinking of getting rid of the C+/ABS bulb completely and replacing it with another B+.

any recommendations for bulb placement? I really want to keep my actinic and B+ in the Dusk/dawn setup.
Blue
Actinic
Blue
Purple
Blue
Blue

Or make your 4 bulb the dusk dawn. I really like 2 Blue, 1 Actinic and 1 Purple for a sweet dusk dawn


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Unread 08/21/2017, 09:39 PM   #6584
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Blue
Actinic
Blue
Purple
Blue
Blue

Or make your 4 bulb the dusk dawn. I really like 2 Blue, 1 Actinic and 1 Purple for a sweet dusk dawn
Thx. for the input. Coming off a LED high and back into the real world of growth and color. I'm an old school halide/ VHO user who went LED and kept buying new fixtures with the expectations that I would get what I wanted. Nope, IMO ZOA's hate LED(lost many colonies). my blue and red SPS suffered tremendously. The only thing that really looked good was my greens and oranges. The shimmer and ramp up/down effect was wonderful but the growth and color suffered. I got about $1500 of high end LED fixtures in the garage for my local club to pick through lol.


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Unread 08/21/2017, 09:41 PM   #6585
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Thx. for the input. Coming off a LED high and back into the real world of growth and color. I'm an old school halide/ VHO user who went LED and kept buying new fixtures with the expectations that I would get what I wanted. Nope, IMO ZOA's hate LED(lost many colonies). my blues and reds suffered tremendously. The only thing that really looked good was my greens and oranges. The shimmer and ramp up/down effect was wonderful but the growth and color suffered. I got about $1500 of high end LED fixtures in the garage for my local club to pick through lol.
I tried LEDs for years. Never could find something I loved. Back to a GMann MH/T5 fixture and love it


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Unread 08/22/2017, 09:56 AM   #6586
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So I am having some color issues with my higher end SPS I have gotten in where I am not getting the pop I want and for some pieces like my Disney I have not gotten the pinks yet.

My fixture is all of perhaps 6 inches off the water inside a custom canopy build. I have a reef brite XHO actinic fixture attached on the front as well. Current bulb layout (that does need changing) is:

Front
Blue +
purple +
Actinic
Coral +
Actinic
Blue +

I really want the pop from my corals but most importantly want to dray out those pinks and other elusive colors I am currently missing. I am getting great growth and my parameters are stable thanks to my calrx.


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Unread 08/22/2017, 04:06 PM   #6587
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So I am having some color issues with my higher end SPS I have gotten in where I am not getting the pop I want and for some pieces like my Disney I have not gotten the pinks yet.

My fixture is all of perhaps 6 inches off the water inside a custom canopy build. I have a reef brite XHO actinic fixture attached on the front as well. Current bulb layout (that does need changing) is:

Front
Blue +
purple +
Actinic
Coral +
Actinic
Blue +

I really want the pop from my corals but most importantly want to dray out those pinks and other elusive colors I am currently missing. I am getting great growth and my parameters are stable thanks to my calrx.
You need to pay attention to your water parameters more than your lights. Consider testing potassium. I keep mine at 440 ppm. I would orient the tubes as follows:

Front
blue+
coral+
actinic
purple+
actinic
Blue+


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Unread 08/22/2017, 08:11 PM   #6588
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Will do but also realized my bulbs are over 8 months where as I thought they were newer. I'll try these again and have bulbs on the way

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Unread 08/23/2017, 11:57 AM   #6589
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I have a 75 gallon tank that I have converted to an bubble tip anemone only tank.

I run a tek t5 8x54 w 2 channel non dimmable fixture.

I also just ordered a SB reef light actinic 48" bar for some added pop from the nems.

Nine months are up and I need to change the bulbs. I am looking for bulb recommendation that will provide best growth & color pop from the nems.

Here is what I am thinking:

Blue +
Coral +
Blue +
Purple +
Blue +
True Actinic
Blue +
Blue +

Any thoughts?


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Unread 08/23/2017, 12:25 PM   #6590
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I have a 75 gallon tank that I have converted to an bubble tip anemone only tank.

I run a tek t5 8x54 w 2 channel non dimmable fixture.

I also just ordered a SB reef light actinic 48" bar for some added pop from the nems.

Nine months are up and I need to change the bulbs. I am looking for bulb recommendation that will provide best growth & color pop from the nems.

Here is what I am thinking:

Blue +
Coral +
Blue +
Purple +
Blue +
True Actinic
Blue +
Blue +

Any thoughts?
I would replace 1 blue+ by 1 more coral+
But if you like the blues, it will be ok.

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Unread 09/23/2017, 05:54 AM   #6591
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I have a ati sunpower 6x39w. So Ive heard the label end should go on the end with the hole, but does it matter whether its facing up or down (i.e. can you see the label or not)? cheers


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Unread 09/23/2017, 08:29 AM   #6592
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I have a ati sunpower 6x39w. So Ive heard the label end should go on the end with the hole, but does it matter whether its facing up or down (i.e. can you see the label or not)? cheers
No, that does not matter


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Unread 09/24/2017, 11:06 AM   #6593
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With the ATI bulbs. Does anyone know the par ratings of each different color bulb?


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Unread 09/24/2017, 11:34 AM   #6594
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With the ATI bulbs. Does anyone know the par ratings of each different color bulb?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...pAiNsMwME4/pub

They're all really close


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Looking to supplement 3 250w Radiums over a 180 with 4x80w t5 in a retro kit to both fill in actinic spectrum Radiums lack and give viewing time when halides are off. I also run a diy Cree RB led strip. ATI blue+ looks too green to me so thinking of giesemanns instead. Would kind of like to bring out some reds and purples.

Thoughts:

1. Giesemann actinic blue x 3 and 1 coral or purple plus
2. Gman Super Actinic x 2, gman actinic blue x1, and coral plus or abs
3. Gman super actinic x 2 and ABS x 2
4. 2 blue+, 1 purple+, 1 ge6500k (used to run this on a 40b and loved it)

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Unread 11/03/2017, 08:10 AM   #6596
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The T5 Q&a Thread - split

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Looking to supplement 3 250w Radiums over a 180 with 4x80w t5 in a retro kit to both fill in actinic spectrum Radiums lack and give viewing time when halides are off. I also run a diy Cree RB led strip. ATI blue+ looks too green to me so thinking of giesemanns instead. Would kind of like to bring out some reds and purples.

Thoughts:

1. Giesemann actinic blue x 3 and 1 coral or purple plus
2. Gman Super Actinic x 2, gman actinic blue x1, and coral plus or abs
3. Gman super actinic x 2 and ABS x 2
4. 2 blue+, 1 purple+, 1 ge6500k (used to run this on a 40b and loved it)

Thanks for the input!


From a looks and spectrum standpoint....I would do 2 giesemann 6500k tropics and 2 giesemann super actinics if you are married to that brand. That will fill in all the deficient 400-440 nm that is low in most other bulbs, and the Tropics give lots of green yellow orange and red to brighten up the tank and develop your red and purple pigments.

The Radiums supply plenty of what the Actinic-blue bulbs provide. You’re not short on any of that. And the 6500k bulbs I am a huge fan of. They really fill out all the wavelengths past blue very well


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Unread 11/03/2017, 01:51 PM   #6597
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Does anyone have a Coral Plus/Purple Plus combo and could post some pictures?


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Unread 11/05/2017, 11:44 AM   #6598
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Does anyone have a Coral Plus/Purple Plus combo and could post some pictures?
The last tank shot is a geisman/ ati mix of 2purple and 2 coral.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...pAiNsMwME4/pub


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Sorry, kinda newbie lighting question that I am sure is buried somewhere in this massive thread. Need some help with the 3- blue plus / 2- coral plus / 1- purple plus ATI combo for my 12 bulb display (6 on each side). What is the recommended placement front to back? I can control bulbs B and D on 1st timer and bulbs A,C,E and F on the second timer. Right now I run 1st timer from 2pm-11pm and 2nd timer from 4pm-10pm. I have softies and LPS in my 150. Thanks for any suggestions!


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Blue+ and purple+ on B/D channel is a very nice look


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