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Unread 11/21/2017, 04:01 PM   #1401
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Has anyone changed from A360WE to AP700
I decided to go for a AP700 instead of the 2x A360WE over my 2ft Cube
I put it up last night and the water seemed not as crisp as the 2xA360WE
Anyone experienced this?


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Unread 11/21/2017, 04:02 PM   #1402
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It seemed a little cloudy almost


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Unread 11/21/2017, 07:29 PM   #1403
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Has anyone changed from A360WE to AP700
I decided to go for a AP700 instead of the 2x A360WE over my 2ft Cube
I put it up last night and the water seemed not as crisp as the 2xA360WE
Anyone experienced this?


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I went from 4 360s to 2 ap700 over 5ft tank. Massive improvement especially bottom half. Did extensive testing with PAR meter and 1 700 is about 2.5 360s.

As for clarity , zero problems and looks even better.


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Unread 11/22/2017, 02:05 PM   #1404
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Thor2j: do you notice more "punch" in the ap700 to get to the bottom? I remember when the 360's were exposed for not having enough punch to get down in a 24-30 inch tank? A good friend of mine, removed his for that reason. So I'm curious if you notice any difference between the two. Since you have operated both.

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Unread 11/22/2017, 02:44 PM   #1405
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You guys post up your updated light schedules
I have looked back through all the pages but was just curious to see any tweaks that you may have done that improved coloration and growth
Have a mixed LPS and mainly SPS system



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Unread 11/22/2017, 04:05 PM   #1406
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I have mine at the third blue down from midline and currently at 56% and I think for 8 hours with 1.5 hour ramp up and down each. They sit at 12 inches above water line and 2 units over 48”x 24” x 24” 120 gallon sps dominant tank. I am raising intensity slowly and I’m shooting for around 70%. I do not have a par meter so my end goal may end up lower depending on how the corals react.


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Unread 11/22/2017, 04:23 PM   #1407
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Thor2j: do you notice more "punch" in the ap700 to get to the bottom? I remember when the 360's were exposed for not having enough punch to get down in a 24-30 inch tank? A good friend of mine, removed his for that reason. So I'm curious if you notice any difference between the two. Since you have operated both.

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The AP700 is not just 2x360s. A single puck on the AP700 is not the same as a 360we, those comparisons really need to stop. The AP700 has a unique cluster AND a high efficiency reflector. The result is a far more powerful light that penetrates must deeper (to answer your question).


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Unread 11/22/2017, 04:41 PM   #1408
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Thanks Reefer31
KTownhero could you share your schedule ?


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Unread 11/22/2017, 05:41 PM   #1409
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I am running the AP700’s on a 24”tall reef tank that is 34” front to back. I placed them about 9” off the top of the water. They can be lowered slightly or of course raised up for a wider spread. I would see no problem running them on a 30” H SPS tank. I am currently running them at about 50% intensity at mid day+, with a ramp up period before and ramp down afterwards. Over time, I plan to ramp up the intensity a bit more.


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Unread 11/22/2017, 06:16 PM   #1410
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The AP700 is not just 2x360s. A single puck on the AP700 is not the same as a 360we, those comparisons really need to stop. The AP700 has a unique cluster AND a high efficiency reflector. The result is a far more powerful light that penetrates must deeper (to answer your question).
I never said it was the same as 2 360's. I only asked if they had more punch to get to the bottom. I only referenced the use of them on a friends tank to shine light on the point I had seen this firsthand. Not repeating what others say.

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Unread 11/22/2017, 06:25 PM   #1411
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It’s got punch. None of my zoas on the bottom have reached up since I replaced the 360.


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Unread 11/22/2017, 09:28 PM   #1412
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12pm - on, deep blue
1pm - 30% deep blue
2pm - 70% fourth to last blue (around 14k i suppose)
10pm - 70% a bit bluer
11pm - 30% deep blue
12am - off
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Unread 11/22/2017, 10:59 PM   #1413
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Thor2j: do you notice more "punch" in the ap700 to get to the bottom? I remember when the 360's were exposed for not having enough punch to get down in a 24-30 inch tank? A good friend of mine, removed his for that reason. So I'm curious if you notice any difference between the two. Since you have operated both.

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Corey,
To answer your question, yes, much better light penetration to the bottom was the biggest difference. I can't remember the numbers but with similar PAR at the top, it was about 40% more PAR on the bottom of my 23" tank with the AP700s vs the 360s.


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Unread 11/28/2017, 09:17 PM   #1414
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Just setup my ap700 and the android app is flawless. I configured it to run thru my router.Tank still cycling but cant wait to test it with livestock.


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Unread 11/29/2017, 06:06 AM   #1415
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Just setup my ap700 and the android app is flawless. I configured it to run thru my router.Tank still cycling but cant wait to test it with livestock.
Don't speak too soon, the Android app is objectively crap. The less you have to use it, the better


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Unread 11/30/2017, 02:00 AM   #1416
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Don't speak too soon, the Android app is objectively crap. The less you have to use it, the better
well so far so good. i also have it on my ipad. So i dont see any future issues as well.


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Unread 11/30/2017, 07:52 PM   #1417
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Have ap700 over 3 ft tank, its awesome but thinking of updrading to a 4 ft, anyone use 1 unit for this size?


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Unread 11/30/2017, 08:11 PM   #1418
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Likely be fine for most things if you raise it up and increase intensity. Sps would have to be at the top probably.


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Unread 11/30/2017, 08:19 PM   #1419
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Have ap700 over 3 ft tank, its awesome but thinking of updrading to a 4 ft, anyone use 1 unit for this size?
Yes. This question was answered like 10 posts earlier lol


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Unread 11/30/2017, 08:45 PM   #1420
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References i have seen were only a few months of use, guess i can added a few more T5's


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Unread 11/30/2017, 08:53 PM   #1421
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The only reason I have 2-ap700 over my 120 (4ft) is because I wanted dominant sps. I’m having some troubles with acans on the sand bed because I have the light intensity too high. I have to find shaded spots for them. I’m sure 1 ap 700 will be just fine for mixed reef over 4 ft tank. Just raise it up to whatever kessil recomends.


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Unread 11/30/2017, 08:59 PM   #1422
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Unread 11/30/2017, 11:09 PM   #1423
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Unread 12/02/2017, 09:47 PM   #1424
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I’ve been out of the game for a while I’m just curious how come I can’t find lumens ratings on these lights?


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Unread 12/02/2017, 10:46 PM   #1425
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I’ve been out of the game for a while I’m just curious how come I can’t find lumens ratings on these lights?
BRS did a pretty in depth par measurement video for the AP700s recently...

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