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05/15/2012, 01:04 PM | #51 |
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Happy Reefing.
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05/15/2012, 03:21 PM | #52 |
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hey randy I forgot to ask, which would be better white vinegar or red and is there a preferred brand?
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05/15/2012, 05:07 PM | #53 |
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I recommend cheap distilled white vinegar.
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I thought that one of the purpouses of adding vinager to Kalk was to increase its Ca and alk potency? I'm asking because I currently I have a problem where I want to use only Kalk to maintain the Ca and Alk levels but my evaporation is not enough and I have to increase the Kalk potency. I've been trying to do so by adding vinager, but no matter if its 5,10,or 25 ml of vinager per topoff liter I still see the same drop in level everyweek. Thanks |
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No, I'm talking about straight vinegar saturated with calcium hydroxide. That solution added to an aquarium will add a lot less calcium and alkalinity than using a normal limewater solution for evaporation replacement, because the amount added is so much less.
You may need to use a two part in addition to the limewater, if you cannot get enough alkalinity and calcium from it, even with added vinegar and using 3 teaspoons lime per gallon.
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06/07/2012, 03:38 PM | #56 |
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Ok thank you.
Do you have any clues as or why I see the same drop every week regardless of the amount of vinager I use? I'd think I'd see less of a drop if I add more vinager into the solution |
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Whats the benefit of doing Kalk plus 2 part? Why not just go to 2 part alone? I think I'm going to do Alk from the top off and Ca with a pump plus vinager for bacterial growth Last edited by irvp13; 06/07/2012 at 03:59 PM. |
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Are you adding more lime into the solution?
Vinegar alone won't change the potency.
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I've always used saturated lime. I add a tbs of Kalk and 25ml of vinager to a litre of DI water.
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tbs means tablespoon to you?
That's a lot of vinegar. More than I'd want to add to my tank, unless your evaporation is quite low. I'd look into getting or making a two part to make up the shortfall.
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Lol tea spoon I meant, 5mg. Yeah I don't have a lot of evaporation. I mix 6 gallons and it lasts for two weeks.
I wanted to avoid the two part to save on the dosing pumps but I don't think Im going to be able to. It's weird because I really don't have a lot of Sps or clams, I have mostly LPS. Ce la vie Thanks for the advice |
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You may not need a dosing pump since the extra demand is not that high. Manual dosing a few times a week is probably adequate.
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That's the thing, sometimes I need to travel and leave the tank unattended for weeks.
Maybe I can start with alk from the topoff and Ca with a diaphragm pump on a timer. |
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I just saw this thread. I get the same results with overdosing of NOPOX. More algae on the glass, bryopsis out of control, zoanthids dying, LPS shriveling and fading, and SPS coral turns a dullish purple-brown color, and cyano so thick chemi-clean was the only way I could get rid of it. Once I figured out that I was killing the tank, I stopped and resumed a week later at a lower dose, and things started improving rapidly and cyano has not been back for a month. The GHA I was trying to kill was growing quicker, and once I lowered the dose it all died off within 2 weeks along with most of the bryopsis. There must be something in NOPOX that algae can utilize if overdosed.
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would somebody please tell me about this.
I started using vinegar about 10 days ago (I am now up to 10ml daily on a 75g total water volume). All my live rocks used to cover with purple coraline nicely. Ever since I started using vinegar, now all the rocks has turned into white. I used to clean the glass a couple of times a week due to green algae (normal). Since dosing vinegar, nothing on the glass (no algae what soever). is this expected? please post your feed back, much appreciate it |
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well, I was just trying to achieve a better coral coloration because vinegar could help reduce nitrate and phosphate.
My phosphate is always high (.1 - .15) all the time. |
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I'm not sure exactly why the coralline is having trouble. I agree that the vinegar might be starving it, but I'd check the phosphate, nitrate, alkalinity, and calcium levels before making any assumptions.
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Hi Randy!
I can't find white distilled vinegar in Portugal, only wine/apple/balsamic vinegar. I presume wine vinegar it's ok but it's not crystal white, as a color, and can "dirt" the water. Can i use any other source of carbon (besides Vodka)? I think i can get pure acetic acid, but i have to search, can it be used without diluition? Medical Alcahool? Thanks! |
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I have some cyano and green hair algae issues. Would dosing Vinegar help that? I do have some Chaeto in my refug, would it hurt it?
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I would avoid using wine vinegar. I would dilute an acetic acid product for safety in handling, depending on the concentration. Concentrated acetic acid can do a lot of damage.
Dosing vinegar can help with cyanobacteria and hair algae, but every tank is different. You could try it, although the Chaetomorpha might fade away over time.
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I am using full saturated Kalk at a rate of 2 tsb per gallon on my tank and also dosing 60ml of ALK daily. My evaporation rate is very low and my question is:
Can i try vinager thru ATO with Kalk to streghten up a little and see if i can avoid dosing ALK???
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Sure, it's reasonable to try. I'd just watch for signs of bacterial growth.
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What is a good starting point 10ml per gallon??? Thanks...
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