2.5" juv. imperator changing into adult pattern...

triggermen · 11/12/2006, 01:41 AM

i was surprise to see a small 2.5" imperator changing into adult colour so soon.normally they dont,rigth??

EdKruzel · 11/12/2006, 02:58 PM

That is common, but does show you have a good environment for it.

Some of the key elements for the change are:

1. Good Water Quality
2. Proper Diet
3. No, More Dominant Tankmates

Keep up the good work...

JamesJR · 11/12/2006, 03:55 PM

Very difficult to do, good job! Keep up the good work because it can be dificult to get them to change completely or at least to completion.

johno4 · 11/13/2006, 09:22 AM

What are you feeding him? Is he in a reef or fo? I recently purchased a juv. for my fowlr and I would love to know what your doing. It is obviously working.

LionfishFinatic · 11/13/2006, 03:47 PM

can you post pics? that would be really cool.

Ironsheikh · 11/13/2006, 08:56 PM

plus your value is going up, right? I can get a juv for $45, but the adult color jumps up to $120

deionized · 11/13/2006, 10:02 PM

high-end color foods could trigger a premature color morph usually because the hormones and steroid type chemicals they use are similar to those the fish produces as it matures
many emps dont complete their change and die soon after they fade to white, my guess is it is stress related

triggermen · 11/14/2006, 05:25 AM

currently the emp. is in a quanrantine tank will move to a FO tank soon.

EdKruzel · 11/14/2006, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by triggermen
currently the emp. is in a quanrantine tank will move to a FO tank soon.

That brings it into a new light; you may have trouble just as described above by deionized.

mcclandy · 11/14/2006, 06:03 PM

I would like to see a picture of this! I have never seen one so small changing colors!

Zoom · 11/15/2006, 09:35 AM

I got mine about three years a go it was 2"-3".
After quarantine and training to eat prepare foods and not corals or clams when in the 200G reef tank.

Six months later started to change .

Nine months.

14 months old about 6" long.

Zoom · 11/15/2006, 09:40 AM

Here is to day full adult with all the colors, about 8"-9" long.

I like Triggers · 11/15/2006, 11:07 AM

zoom, beautiful angel and tank !!!!

Nemoislame · 11/15/2006, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zoom
I got mine about three years a go it was 2"-3".
After quarantine and training to eat prepare foods and not corals or clams when in the 200G reef tank.

Six months later started to change .

Nine months.

14 months old about 6" long.

Hi Zoom, beautiful emporer and tank. My juv emp is at about the same stage as your second photo. He's 4" and gradually starting to get adult colours. What did/are you feeding your emporer as I would love mine to transform as beautifully as yours

Zoom · 11/15/2006, 02:55 PM

mostly formula 2 pellet food from Ocean nutrition.
He also gets shrimp, dry seaweed ,flake ,frozen Angel food.

Nemoislame · 11/15/2006, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zoom
mostly formula 2 pellet food from Ocean nutrition.
He also gets shrimp, dry seaweed ,flake ,frozen Angel food.

That's good to hear as I feed my emporer all of the above. I also feed mine chopped cockles and mussels, brineshrimp and mysis too. I really am looking forward to my emporer transforming

Zoom · 11/15/2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nemoislame
That's good to hear as I feed my emporer all of the above. I also feed mine chopped cockles and mussels, brineshrimp and mysis too. I really am looking forward to my emporer transforming

The Emperor eats alat of food so you need a very large skimmer, i have a Deltec 902 in a 200G tank and is rated for three time my tank volume.

beez · 11/15/2006, 09:54 PM

Zoom, that is one beautiful fish....well done!!!

mcclandy · 11/18/2006, 03:20 PM

how many times a day do you feed your angels? Cause those are beautiful fish!

Zoom · 11/18/2006, 04:56 PM

two heavy feedings or i will have nothing alive in the tank.

11/12/2006, 01:41 AM	#1
triggermen Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pacific rim Posts: 374	2.5" juv. imperator changing into adult pattern... i was surprise to see a small 2.5" imperator changing into adult colour so soon.normally they dont,rigth??

11/12/2006, 02:58 PM	#2
EdKruzel Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 7,384	That is common, but does show you have a good environment for it. Some of the key elements for the change are: 1. Good Water Quality 2. Proper Diet 3. No, More Dominant Tankmates Keep up the good work... __________________ When you find yourself in "Deep Water" it's best to keep your mouth shut! Current Tank Info: 65RR Cube Mixed Reef

11/12/2006, 03:55 PM	#3
JamesJR Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,733	Very difficult to do, good job! Keep up the good work because it can be dificult to get them to change completely or at least to completion. __________________ Just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber you go and do something like this....And totally redeem yourself! Current Tank Info: 20 gallon

11/13/2006, 03:47 PM	#5
LionfishFinatic Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 693	can you post pics? that would be really cool. __________________ " Hours spent in thoughtful silence, help us make the right decisions, more than days and days of talking." --Meteu Current Tank Info: starting a 125g SPS dominated reef

11/13/2006, 08:56 PM	#6
Ironsheikh Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SYRACUSE NY Posts: 1,124	plus your value is going up, right? I can get a juv for $45, but the adult color jumps up to $120 __________________ You have been weighed... You have been measured... YOU have been found wanting! Current Tank Info: 20G fowlr some zoas

11/13/2006, 09:22 AM	#4
johno4 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,526	What are you feeding him? Is he in a reef or fo? I recently purchased a juv. for my fowlr and I would love to know what your doing. It is obviously working.

11/13/2006, 10:02 PM	#7
deionized Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 45	high-end color foods could trigger a premature color morph usually because the hormones and steroid type chemicals they use are similar to those the fish produces as it matures many emps dont complete their change and die soon after they fade to white, my guess is it is stress related

11/14/2006, 05:25 AM	#8
triggermen Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pacific rim Posts: 374	currently the emp. is in a quanrantine tank will move to a FO tank soon.

11/14/2006, 06:03 PM	#10
mcclandy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ames Posts: 163	I would like to see a picture of this! I have never seen one so small changing colors! __________________ DIY GEEK 150 deep display, 50 gallon sump,120 3w LEDs, AquaC skimmer, filter socks, ato Livestock: SPS, LPS, Clams, Softies, fish Regular maint: keeping it simple with bi-weekly water changes Current Tank Info: 29 gallon sps, lps, shrooms, zoas, remora skimmer, T5's, no sump, dose limewater nightly

11/15/2006, 09:35 AM	#11
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	I got mine about three years a go it was 2"-3". After quarantine and training to eat prepare foods and not corals or clams when in the 200G reef tank. Six months later started to change . Nine months. 14 months old about 6" long.

11/15/2006, 09:40 AM	#12
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	Here is to day full adult with all the colors, about 8"-9" long.

11/15/2006, 11:07 AM	#13
I like Triggers Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 885	zoom, beautiful angel and tank !!!! __________________ Mark Murray Current Tank Info: 225g Aggressive/Mixed Reef

11/15/2006, 02:55 PM	#15
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	mostly formula 2 pellet food from Ocean nutrition. He also gets shrimp, dry seaweed ,flake ,frozen Angel food.

11/15/2006, 09:54 PM	#18
beez Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 254	Zoom, that is one beautiful fish....well done!!! __________________ After years of frustration with get-rich-quick schemes, I know I'm going to get rich with THIS scheme. And quick.

11/18/2006, 03:20 PM	#19
mcclandy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ames Posts: 163	how many times a day do you feed your angels? Cause those are beautiful fish! __________________ DIY GEEK 150 deep display, 50 gallon sump,120 3w LEDs, AquaC skimmer, filter socks, ato Livestock: SPS, LPS, Clams, Softies, fish Regular maint: keeping it simple with bi-weekly water changes Current Tank Info: 29 gallon sps, lps, shrooms, zoas, remora skimmer, T5's, no sump, dose limewater nightly

11/18/2006, 04:56 PM	#20
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	two heavy feedings or i will have nothing alive in the tank.