Kessil AP 700 Owners Gather Here! - Page 65

jezzeaepi · 09/04/2018, 06:14 PM

Thank you for sharing, Zitadel. Ive been a long time MH user, and am getting ready to try this "newfangled LED technology." I think Ill need to pick up a Seneye at some point.

aelvion · 09/19/2018, 06:57 PM

Can someone explain the red and green settings.?
I've read several people saying they are for looks only. How can that be true, they must change the spectrum. And if they change the spectrum how does the kessil logic keep the proper spectrum?

Does changing the red or green automatically adjust the blue and white to keep the proper spectrum, or does it defeat the kessil logic?

psturg66 · 09/19/2018, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aelvion

Can someone explain the red and green settings.?
I've read several people saying they are for looks only. How can that be true, they must change the spectrum. And if they change the spectrum how does the kessil logic keep the proper spectrum?

Does changing the red or green automatically adjust the blue and white to keep the proper spectrum, or does it defeat the kessil logic?

I don't use the colors.

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aelvion · 09/19/2018, 07:28 PM

I use them as i find 17%of each red and green is equivalent to a step between the presets on the color wheel.
Currently, I feel the third blue is too dark while the fourth is too white for my liking. Setting the wheel to the third and adding 17% red and blue creates a color in between the two which looks awesome imo.

I just want to be sure I'm not skewing the kessil logic and hindering color/growth or increasing algae growth by doing so.

minus9 · 09/19/2018, 11:28 PM

You're just adding red or green. You're not taking away what's already there (kessil logic).

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makers marc · 11/03/2018, 09:54 AM

Anyone else struggling with acros getting burnt tips/uniform bleaching on new aquacultured acros with this light? Initially maxed out at 70% for 2 hrs, 12 hr total cycle. Mounted 10 inches abouve water on 180g.

I have stable alk (7.5-8)using carbonsoder with GEO618. No3 = 8-12ppm (Red Sea Pro) and Po4 = .05-.08 PPM (HANNA ULR), tested daily over the first 3 wks of these frags.

I pulled GFO and ROX weeks early when my last wave of frags had the same issue.

So not alk flux, not lack of nutrients. Happened to 100%of the 10 acros/montis ive added, whether they were mounted high, low, or maricultured or aquacultured.

minus9 · 11/03/2018, 11:25 AM

I'm going through this right now. I really don't think it's a lighting issue at all. Are you running a refugium? I'm finding that iodine and potassium are low, which could correspond to the sps burnt tips and STN? I was running Triton and I'm in the process of switching to a CaRx.
My guess, heavy metals or element(s) depletion is causing this. I'll be sending another ICP test this week, so we'll see?

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drtrash · 11/04/2018, 01:59 PM

I did notice when i added the red and green got better pop in fish, all the blue muddies up fine color like striping in wrasses, running 15 green and 20 red, reminder 70% max when usinf r and g

acropora · 11/05/2018, 12:02 PM

4 x Kessil AP 700 over my Reef Tank which is 8’ L x 3’ W x 24” H. This tank has been up for a little over one year. All corals from frags.
I am also interested in the green and red levels that others are using for coral growth and coloration. Currently a 70 % max intensity for a four hour noon period. I started off with levels much lower during the first few months. Best to not fiddle with the settings too often. The LED’s are on for about 12 hours a day, with ramp up and ramp down periods.

scottbeyer101 · 11/06/2018, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Boochika

What are you using to measure par?

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Sorry, never answered this one. I use an Apogee MQ-210 and I like it alot. Super simple to use.

makers marc · 11/12/2018, 09:20 AM

Ap700 owners,

When yall buy a new frag/mini colony of acropora from a T5 only tank, or a hybrid, or a Wild Aussie Acro from Divers Den for example.

Are you having to acclimate slowly to your lights in these scenarios? And if so, can you tell me your lighting schedule and how high units are mounted? And what your No3 and Po4 levels are?

Every tank is unique I know., I am just curious from those who have grown acros from this unit solely?

Hanger22reefing · 11/12/2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by acropora

4 x Kessil AP 700 over my Reef Tank which is 8’ L x 3’ W x 24” H. This tank has been up for a little over one year. All corals from frags.
I am also interested in the green and red levels that others are using for coral growth and coloration. Currently a 70 % max intensity for a four hour noon period. I started off with levels much lower during the first few months. Best to not fiddle with the settings too often. The LED’s are on for about 12 hours a day, with ramp up and ramp down periods.

I can you post up your settings so I can check it out and is you reef tank a mix reef

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acropora · 11/12/2018, 12:14 PM

Hanger22 here is a snapshot of my settings. I have mostly an SPS reef with two Euphyllias. Hoping to get feedback from other AP700 users

Hanger22reefing · 11/12/2018, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by acropora

Hanger22 here is a snapshot of my settings. I have mostly an SPS reef with two Euphyllias. Hoping to get feedback from other AP700 users

Nice I run 12 hour light with a high of 70% for 4 hours with t5s

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drtrash · 11/12/2018, 05:27 PM

4-t5's and max of 50% for 5 hrs

acropora · 11/12/2018, 06:09 PM

I removed two Gyre’s for maintenance when I took this pucture. If anyone has experimented with the green and red levels, pleasd post the levels here.

Thor2j · 11/13/2018, 12:38 PM

Does the iPad app still have no red or green settings??

drtrash · 11/14/2018, 07:28 AM

Yes

Hanger22reefing · 11/14/2018, 10:48 AM

Ya no red or green and the phone works alot better I have 3 kessil and 8 Hamilton t5s over my 7 foot tank

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chevythang92 · 11/28/2018, 07:52 PM

Anybody using the diffusers. Been contemplating on trying them out .The shimmer dont bother me just wondering if the blended light will help with sps growth. I have 2 ap700 and a aquatic life hybrib on a 6ft 180.

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minus9 · 11/28/2018, 11:56 PM

I'm using the slight diffusers on two AP700's. I have a shallow tank and noticed some hot spots and wanted to tame them and that's exactly what they did for me. Reduced shimmer a little, but not too much (i love the shimmer). Lights are about 10" from the water.

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chevythang92 · 11/30/2018, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by minus9

I'm using the slight diffusers on two AP700's. I have a shallow tank and noticed some hot spots and wanted to tame them and that's exactly what they did for me. Reduced shimmer a little, but not too much (i love the shimmer). Lights are about 10" from the water.

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I like the shimmer as well but jsince I'm wanting a dominated sps tank maybe I should blend the light more.

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minus9 · 11/30/2018, 04:21 PM

Yeah, if your light(s) are closer to the tank, then getting the diffusers is the best bet. If you have the room to raise the lights a little, that could be a compromise? They don't help with shadowing, but they really help to blend the light even more.

chevythang92 · 11/30/2018, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minus9

Yeah, if your light(s) are closer to the tank, then getting the diffusers is the best bet. If you have the room to raise the lights a little, that could be a compromise? They don't help with shadowing, but they really help to blend the light even more.

No room to raise the light I have them under a canopy.

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kevin21 · 12/05/2018, 07:24 AM

Hey All,

I have an ap700 on the way for my 50.3 waterbox. Tank is going to be softie/lps dominated with a clam and maybe one or two simple SPS. Any suggestions for settings? Dimensions of the display part of the tank is 36" long and 14" wide. How high do you all recommend? Will I have a serious light spillage problem? Would love to avoid that. I have ran kessil a160s and am used to that spillage....is the ap700 worse?

Thanks all!

11/03/2018, 09:54 AM	#1606
makers marc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 283	Anyone else struggling with acros getting burnt tips/uniform bleaching on new aquacultured acros with this light? Initially maxed out at 70% for 2 hrs, 12 hr total cycle. Mounted 10 inches abouve water on 180g. I have stable alk (7.5-8)using carbonsoder with GEO618. No3 = 8-12ppm (Red Sea Pro) and Po4 = .05-.08 PPM (HANNA ULR), tested daily over the first 3 wks of these frags. I pulled GFO and ROX weeks early when my last wave of frags had the same issue. So not alk flux, not lack of nutrients. Happened to 100%of the 10 acros/montis ive added, whether they were mounted high, low, or maricultured or aquacultured. __________________ 75g SPS dominant (Ca= 400ppm, Mg = 1350ppm, Kh= 8.5dkh) 2xJebao wp25/Kessil Ap700/Kalk via Tunze ATO/GFO (6 tbsps every 2 wks); Carbon (6 tbsps per month)

11/05/2018, 12:02 PM	#1609
acropora Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Setauket, New York 11733 Posts: 1,610	4 x Kessil AP 700 over my Reef Tank which is 8’ L x 3’ W x 24” H. This tank has been up for a little over one year. All corals from frags. I am also interested in the green and red levels that others are using for coral growth and coloration. Currently a 70 % max intensity for a four hour noon period. I started off with levels much lower during the first few months. Best to not fiddle with the settings too often. The LED’s are on for about 12 hours a day, with ramp up and ramp down periods. __________________ My avatar picture is from 1984. It was my first marine tank. Current Tank Info: 350 Reef Tank, 4 x Kessil AP 700's Last edited by acropora; 11/05/2018 at 12:49 PM.

11/12/2018, 09:20 AM	#1611
makers marc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 283	Ap700 owners, When yall buy a new frag/mini colony of acropora from a T5 only tank, or a hybrid, or a Wild Aussie Acro from Divers Den for example. Are you having to acclimate slowly to your lights in these scenarios? And if so, can you tell me your lighting schedule and how high units are mounted? And what your No3 and Po4 levels are? Every tank is unique I know., I am just curious from those who have grown acros from this unit solely? __________________ 75g SPS dominant (Ca= 400ppm, Mg = 1350ppm, Kh= 8.5dkh) 2xJebao wp25/Kessil Ap700/Kalk via Tunze ATO/GFO (6 tbsps every 2 wks); Carbon (6 tbsps per month)

12/05/2018, 07:24 AM	#1625
kevin21 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 2,208	Hey All, I have an ap700 on the way for my 50.3 waterbox. Tank is going to be softie/lps dominated with a clam and maybe one or two simple SPS. Any suggestions for settings? Dimensions of the display part of the tank is 36" long and 14" wide. How high do you all recommend? Will I have a serious light spillage problem? Would love to avoid that. I have ran kessil a160s and am used to that spillage....is the ap700 worse? Thanks all! __________________ Kevin Current Tank Info: Waterbox 50g, Tunze 9004 dc skimmer, Vortech mp10, Kessil ap700

09/04/2018, 06:14 PM	#1601
jezzeaepi Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 385	Thank you for sharing, Zitadel. Ive been a long time MH user, and am getting ready to try this "newfangled LED technology." I think Ill need to pick up a Seneye at some point.

09/19/2018, 06:57 PM	#1602
aelvion Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3	Can someone explain the red and green settings.? I've read several people saying they are for looks only. How can that be true, they must change the spectrum. And if they change the spectrum how does the kessil logic keep the proper spectrum? Does changing the red or green automatically adjust the blue and white to keep the proper spectrum, or does it defeat the kessil logic?

09/19/2018, 07:28 PM	#1604
aelvion Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3	I use them as i find 17%of each red and green is equivalent to a step between the presets on the color wheel. Currently, I feel the third blue is too dark while the fourth is too white for my liking. Setting the wheel to the third and adding 17% red and blue creates a color in between the two which looks awesome imo. I just want to be sure I'm not skewing the kessil logic and hindering color/growth or increasing algae growth by doing so.

09/19/2018, 11:28 PM	#1605
minus9 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: I'm in the Valley, Dude! Posts: 1,349	You're just adding red or green. You're not taking away what's already there (kessil logic). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/03/2018, 11:25 AM	#1607
minus9 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: I'm in the Valley, Dude! Posts: 1,349	I'm going through this right now. I really don't think it's a lighting issue at all. Are you running a refugium? I'm finding that iodine and potassium are low, which could correspond to the sps burnt tips and STN? I was running Triton and I'm in the process of switching to a CaRx. My guess, heavy metals or element(s) depletion is causing this. I'll be sending another ICP test this week, so we'll see? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/04/2018, 01:59 PM	#1608
drtrash Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S. Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,178	I did notice when i added the red and green got better pop in fish, all the blue muddies up fine color like striping in wrasses, running 15 green and 20 red, reminder 70% max when usinf r and g

11/12/2018, 05:27 PM	#1615
drtrash Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S. Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,178	4-t5's and max of 50% for 5 hrs

11/13/2018, 12:38 PM	#1617
Thor2j Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 230	Does the iPad app still have no red or green settings??

11/14/2018, 07:28 AM	#1618
drtrash Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S. Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,178	Yes

11/14/2018, 10:48 AM	#1619
Hanger22reefing Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 10	Ya no red or green and the phone works alot better I have 3 kessil and 8 Hamilton t5s over my 7 foot tank Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

11/28/2018, 07:52 PM	#1620
chevythang92 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 39	Anybody using the diffusers. Been contemplating on trying them out .The shimmer dont bother me just wondering if the blended light will help with sps growth. I have 2 ap700 and a aquatic life hybrib on a 6ft 180. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

11/28/2018, 11:56 PM	#1621
minus9 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: I'm in the Valley, Dude! Posts: 1,349	I'm using the slight diffusers on two AP700's. I have a shallow tank and noticed some hot spots and wanted to tame them and that's exactly what they did for me. Reduced shimmer a little, but not too much (i love the shimmer). Lights are about 10" from the water. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/30/2018, 04:21 PM	#1623
minus9 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: I'm in the Valley, Dude! Posts: 1,349	Yeah, if your light(s) are closer to the tank, then getting the diffusers is the best bet. If you have the room to raise the lights a little, that could be a compromise? They don't help with shadowing, but they really help to blend the light even more.