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02/07/2012, 09:20 PM | #1901 |
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Did you spot treat or dip the whole rock?
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I had a few small loose rocks that I was able to scrub outside the DT but the rest are large and connected together with acrylic rods so they were scrubbed in place with a toothbrush. I then used a fish net to catch what I can of the floating debris. Most of them ended up in the sump filter sock that I changed twice a week. I think I mentioned in an earlier post that I did not do any scrubbing till just before the 4th dose. By that time, most of the dead GHA have been blown off the rocks and sand by the vortechs. What was left were either dead or dying and were easily scrubbed off.
I did not do any spot treatment. I just dump 15 ml of Algaefix Marine into the DT every third day. Not sure if it had anything to do with the success of the treatment but I slowly raised my magnesium level to around 1700 ppm prior to the treatment. Also, I continued the daily vodka dosing and kept both GFO reactor and skimmer running during the treatment. |
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Man, I'm so glad the very last post was about increased mag while treating with algae fix. I have some gha and bryopsis in my tank. It's not plague proportions, but I'm in the process of nipping them in the keister as we speak.
I just hit 1700 mag with tech m the other night. I think I'm going to start dosing algaefix today. I have some herbivores in the tank now, problem is some of this algae is so deep into the rockwork that i can't pull it off. I'm just hoping they keep it in check once I beat most of it down chemically.
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Water changes during this?
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I did my regular water changes during the treatment.
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Ok. Thanks. I just wasn't sure how long AF stayed in water column
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AF breaks down in your tank within 24 hrs. So water changes should be done after it breaks down and before the next dose.
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02/27/2012, 03:00 PM | #1908 |
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thanks man!!! i just ordered some marine AF and it should be here by 3/1 i had tried the AF but i had other issues in my tank so i stopped using it(not related tot he AF) but i did contact them and was told AF and marine AF are the same
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Thanks for the update. Good to hear the confirmation from the manufacturer directly that both versions of AF are the same, just different labels. Dosing recommendations for both are the same.
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Can I use Algaefix marine for the tank with refugium? Should I move my macroalgae to the other tank before dosing Algaefix marine?
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AF has been reported by some hobbyists here in this thread to have negative effects on Chaeto, especially after pro-longed dosing, say about 10 doses.
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Here's a summary of my AF Marine experience:
I did 7 once every three days doses from 2012.01.19 till 2012.02.06. Started once a week doses 2012.02.11. Each dose is 15 ml on a 120 gal DT and about 15 gal of water in the 30 gal sump. So far 100% clear of GHA and no issues with my cheato in the fuge. |
03/07/2012, 01:15 PM | #1913 |
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Cliff does af have peroxide in it?
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No peroxide is in AF.
A quote from Randy: "According to the MSDS, and after a little redjusting for their incorrect namming, Algaefix is 4.5 weight percent of a cationic polymer Poly[oxy-1,2-ethanediyl(dimethyliminio)-1,2-ethanediyl(dimethyliminio)-1,2-ethanediyl chloride (1:2)] more commonly known as Polyquaternium 42 and these other common names: Armoblen NPX; BL 2142; Bualta; Bubond 60; Bulab 6002; Busan 1507; Busan 77; KA 1700; MBC 115; Polixetonium chloride; Poly[oxyethylene(dimethylamino)ethylene(dimethylamino)ethylene dichloride]; Polyquaternium 42; TB 66; WSCP" See this thread for more details on the chemical make-up and concerns regarding AF including Randy's comments: Chemical Control of algae? http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1596521
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So, we have people using it in reef tanks successfully
Does that mean we are one step closer to accepting the ability of a molecule to selectively work for us? |
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I'm just hoping to see some results within the next 2 doses, if not I think I'm stuck plucking and hoping the chaeto takes it over
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If you have a yellow tang who eats some of the algae will this hurt him
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cliff, I'm dosing AF but i have a question regarding the frequency of it, it says every 3 days. i just dosed on Saturday now would my next dose be monday or tuesday?
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What populations are we sure it works on outside of the intended target? Did anyone notice a specific collateral loss or are we talking theoretical or strictly microbial/invisible losses
Start with nitrifying bacteria, we must assume it has some element of selectivity (at least in threshold maximums) among microorganisms since these don't die off while other x populations do... Its helpful to know the specific unintended populations affected by this or any other systemic doser to at least get a real idea of what's going on, I figure af being a for profit doser has been tested, and someone might have specifics on how the biocide targets algae over nitrifiers? |
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The way I was dosing it, it would be tuesday..
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Me too, just making sure!
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