help finalizing design stage

dirk_brijs · 05/23/2012, 06:15 AM

OK guys 9 more days to go before I get back home and will start my large upgrade.
Before that I would like to post this thread where I would like you guys to help me out with certain question I have about my final design stage before I actually start my build cause of things I might have overlooked and or not thought about before I make some stupid build mistakes.
Hope you guys can help me out here

Ron Reefman · 05/23/2012, 06:18 AM

More than willing to help out... but it helps if you ask a question first???

dirk_brijs · 05/23/2012, 06:20 AM

1st question overflow box
came up with this design for my overflow/wavebox.

the drain pipes would be both 2"
the 2 other holes would be intakes for my CL. They are both 2' and will be connected to a Reeflo Dart pump each feeding my CL.
the question now is would this work or create too much of a vortex having water sucked in the intake for the CL and drain pipes that close to one another?

dirk_brijs · 05/23/2012, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

More than willing to help out... but it helps if you ask a question first???

waw you beat me to it

dirk_brijs · 05/23/2012, 06:29 AM

2nd question increase water volume
The DT would be 500 Gallon the Sump/Fuge set up would add another 300Gallon to the system.
Now I would like to connect 2 large water (200gallon) storage tanks to the system which would help me doing my water changes emptying them and filling them up with fresh ocean water every 2 weeks.
The tanks I am talking about look like this

they both will be connected to my system again to increase water volume and with a switch of a button I can empty them and refill.
The question now is could storing water in dark tanks bad or it would have no effect at all to the water quality. Water pumps will be installed in the tank to provide constant water movement though just no lighting at all.

fishgate · 05/23/2012, 07:13 AM

Wow - this is way above my pay grade! But I like it and really like the Ocean Water use. Looking forward to seeing the progress.

Whitelight · 05/23/2012, 07:32 AM

Two thoughts:

1) You might consider posting this is the large tank forum. 800g is a little big for the regular forum. Some people in the large tank forum would have more experience with a system this size.

2) Those storage tanks look nice, but tanks like this often come with subpar bulkheads. Many people ignore the existing bulkheads and drill their own. Just something to consider.

dirk_brijs · 05/23/2012, 02:41 PM

anyone that can help on both questions?

dirk_brijs · 05/23/2012, 04:14 PM

would this help turning around the 90 degree so the water would drain from the top away from the CL drains?

dirk_brijs · 05/23/2012, 06:51 PM

also adjusted the height of the overflow box

or still same issues?

peppie · 05/23/2012, 09:43 PM

I am no expert by any means... but I really dont think your over flow is going to handle the amount of water you want to run thru it. I think you will suck that overflow box dry with 4 2'' lines in there.

JMO

dirk_brijs · 05/24/2012, 02:24 AM

ok put the intakes now in the tank
so this would work

dirk_brijs · 06/04/2012, 05:59 PM

next question,
the build in wave boxes next to the overflow box.
Pumps installed would be Tunze 61015 which will be controllable 0% to 100%

would the intake of water into the box be enough just through the pump itself or better create another intake hole higher up into the box?

05/23/2012, 06:15 AM	#1
dirk_brijs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pattaya Thailand Posts: 1,457	help finalizing design stage OK guys 9 more days to go before I get back home and will start my large upgrade. Before that I would like to post this thread where I would like you guys to help me out with certain question I have about my final design stage before I actually start my build cause of things I might have overlooked and or not thought about before I make some stupid build mistakes. Hope you guys can help me out here

05/23/2012, 06:18 AM	#2
Ron Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 10,431	More than willing to help out... but it helps if you ask a question first??? __________________ The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. (Neil deGrasse Tyson) Visit my build thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2593017

05/23/2012, 07:13 AM	#6
fishgate Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Damascus, MD Posts: 3,340	Wow - this is way above my pay grade! But I like it and really like the Ocean Water use. Looking forward to seeing the progress. __________________ 125RR in-wall, 40B Sump, CS180 BM Skimmer, ATI 4x80 watt, eheim 1262, custom wrap around rock wall, ReefKeeper Elite 120g in-wall, 40B Sump, PC 54wx4, Jabao DC-6000 (full siphon), future seahorse t Current Tank Info: 125g, 120g, 2x40b sumps, ATI 4x80 T5HO

05/23/2012, 06:20 AM	#3
dirk_brijs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pattaya Thailand Posts: 1,457	1st question overflow box came up with this design for my overflow/wavebox. the drain pipes would be both 2" the 2 other holes would be intakes for my CL. They are both 2' and will be connected to a Reeflo Dart pump each feeding my CL. the question now is would this work or create too much of a vortex having water sucked in the intake for the CL and drain pipes that close to one another?

05/23/2012, 06:29 AM	#5
dirk_brijs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pattaya Thailand Posts: 1,457	2nd question increase water volume The DT would be 500 Gallon the Sump/Fuge set up would add another 300Gallon to the system. Now I would like to connect 2 large water (200gallon) storage tanks to the system which would help me doing my water changes emptying them and filling them up with fresh ocean water every 2 weeks. The tanks I am talking about look like this they both will be connected to my system again to increase water volume and with a switch of a button I can empty them and refill. The question now is could storing water in dark tanks bad or it would have no effect at all to the water quality. Water pumps will be installed in the tank to provide constant water movement though just no lighting at all.

05/23/2012, 07:32 AM	#7
Whitelight Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 53	Two thoughts: 1) You might consider posting this is the large tank forum. 800g is a little big for the regular forum. Some people in the large tank forum would have more experience with a system this size. 2) Those storage tanks look nice, but tanks like this often come with subpar bulkheads. Many people ignore the existing bulkheads and drill their own. Just something to consider.

05/23/2012, 02:41 PM	#8
dirk_brijs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pattaya Thailand Posts: 1,457	anyone that can help on both questions?

05/23/2012, 04:14 PM	#9
dirk_brijs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pattaya Thailand Posts: 1,457	would this help turning around the 90 degree so the water would drain from the top away from the CL drains?

05/23/2012, 06:51 PM	#10
dirk_brijs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pattaya Thailand Posts: 1,457	also adjusted the height of the overflow box or still same issues?

05/23/2012, 09:43 PM	#11
peppie Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,883	I am no expert by any means... but I really dont think your over flow is going to handle the amount of water you want to run thru it. I think you will suck that overflow box dry with 4 2'' lines in there. JMO

05/24/2012, 02:24 AM	#12
dirk_brijs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pattaya Thailand Posts: 1,457	ok put the intakes now in the tank so this would work

06/04/2012, 05:59 PM	#13
dirk_brijs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pattaya Thailand Posts: 1,457	next question, the build in wave boxes next to the overflow box. Pumps installed would be Tunze 61015 which will be controllable 0% to 100% would the intake of water into the box be enough just through the pump itself or better create another intake hole higher up into the box?