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Unread 03/21/2018, 09:28 AM   #1301
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Ok... so confirmed that my regulator output is at 50PSI. Is that what others are running? Also, I have my apex set to shut the solenoid off at 7.1ph. However it drifts down and is now at 7.0ph. Just wondering how concerned I should be about trying to remedy or just leave it alone and put the setpoint in apex .1 higher. It just seems weird to me that something isn't working the way it should as I assume the solenoid should not let any new CO2 in when in the of state and the feed pump is pulling tank water with a higher PH. Just stumped as to why it drops lower.


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Unread 03/21/2018, 12:09 PM   #1302
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Ok... so confirmed that my regulator output is at 50PSI. Is that what others are running? Also, I have my apex set to shut the solenoid off at 7.1ph. However it drifts down and is now at 7.0ph. Just wondering how concerned I should be about trying to remedy or just leave it alone and put the setpoint in apex .1 higher. It just seems weird to me that something isn't working the way it should as I assume the solenoid should not let any new CO2 in when in the of state and the feed pump is pulling tank water with a higher PH. Just stumped as to why it drops lower.
50 PSI seems like a lot. I'm running mine at 10.
I honestly wouldn't worry about .1. if the tank is doing fine, just let it be.


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Unread 03/21/2018, 09:27 PM   #1303
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50 PSI seems like a lot. I'm running mine at 10.
I honestly wouldn't worry about .1. if the tank is doing fine, just let it be.
Yeah, 50PSI might be high, I will try lowering it see if that does anything.


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Unread 03/27/2018, 10:52 AM   #1304
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I found 2 Co2 regulators on ebay: AIRGAS Y12-244D580 and AIRGAS Y12-244D350 on ebay. Both of them are 2 stage 3500PSI IN 100PSI and they look alike on pictures. D580 is a little bit more expensive. Do you know what are the differences b/w them and which one is better for aquarium plant using? Thanks!


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Unread 03/27/2018, 04:36 PM   #1305
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The last 3 digits represent the CGA cylinder fitting. You will need to replace either one with a CGA 320 for CO2. That is the only difference. Can order fittings on-line.


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Unread 04/05/2018, 10:07 AM   #1306
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Does anyone know the difference between a clippard solenoid and these solenoids:
http://www.aquariumplants.com/produc...CABEgL4QvD_BwE

I have the latter....connected to a ph controller....the solenoid clicks on/off (based on my ph parameters) however continually gets stuck in the on position allowing Constant CO2.....it's annoying.


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Unread 04/05/2018, 03:51 PM   #1307
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Does anyone know the difference between a clippard solenoid and these solenoids:
http://www.aquariumplants.com/produc...CABEgL4QvD_BwE

I have the latter....connected to a ph controller....the solenoid clicks on/off (based on my ph parameters) however continually gets stuck in the on position allowing Constant CO2.....it's annoying.
I don't know much about the Clippard solenoid but the Burkert 6011 is rated for like a million cycles.

Here's one on ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Burkert-601...sAAOSw3K1auyTa


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Unread 05/08/2018, 06:08 PM   #1308
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Here’s a 6 outputs system. This one is designed for planted tanks. For saltwater you will need 6 solenoids.



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Unread 05/08/2018, 08:51 PM   #1309
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Are these cheaper to build yourself??


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Unread 05/08/2018, 09:24 PM   #1310
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Are these cheaper to build yourself??
If you're patient and find good deals, it can be. But for me, I just bought what I needed when I needed it. In the end probably spent more than a carbon doser but I'm pretty sure mine will outlast a carbon doser

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Unread 05/08/2018, 09:25 PM   #1311
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If you're patient and find good deals, it can be. But for me, I just bought what I needed when I needed it. In the end probably spent more than a carbon doser but I'm pretty sure mine will outlast a carbon doser

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Thanks.. I actually have tons of time.. don't even have a reactor yet.. guess I'll put a list together and a few google alerts /eBay searches and see what comes up..

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Unread 05/09/2018, 04:31 AM   #1312
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I'm new to the reef community. I have been building custom CO2 systems for planted tanks. I want to start off by sharing my knowledge with you guys on how to build a quality CO2 system to use with the calcium reactor. There are commercial CO2 systems that anyone can purchase. However, there is a DIY route. We can build a high quality industrial grade CO2 system with a few parts for the same price.
So, maybe not cheaper, but better. Way better.


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Unread 05/09/2018, 08:05 AM   #1313
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Thanks.. I actually have tons of time.. don't even have a reactor yet.. guess I'll put a list together and a few google alerts /eBay searches and see what comes up..

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One of the biggest ways to save money is with brass fitting and a brass regulator. If it's going outside your stand, you'll be just fine with brass. But if inside the stand, SS might be the way to go but more costly. If you have any questions, please ask away.


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Unread 05/09/2018, 08:33 AM   #1314
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One of the biggest ways to save money is with brass fitting and a brass regulator. If it's going outside your stand, you'll be just fine with brass. But if inside the stand, SS might be the way to go but more costly. If you have any questions, please ask away.
It's most likely going in my stand. I think i'll scope out the regulator first and build off of that...


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Unread 05/09/2018, 09:41 AM   #1315
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It's most likely going in my stand. I think i'll scope out the regulator first and build off of that...
A SS reg is probably the most expensive individual part. Keep an eye on ebay but be cautious of the used ones with no return policy.


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Unread 05/09/2018, 08:02 PM   #1316
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Whats the difference between the ss2 and ss4 metering valves?


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Whats the difference between the ss2 and ss4 metering valves?
Size. SS2 is 1/8" and SS4 is 1/4". Make sure you get a low flow metering valve


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Unread 05/10/2018, 08:25 AM   #1318
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Size. SS2 is 1/8" and SS4 is 1/4". Make sure you get a low flow metering valve
Roger that.. Any advantage on the different size's? Or no difference, just gotta use appropriate adapters?


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Roger that.. Any advantage on the different size's? Or no difference, just gotta use appropriate adapters?
I don't think for our application, there's an advantage/disadvantage. For my setup, I used mostly 1/4" fitting and then I reduced to the 1/8" for my solenoid.

Here's what my final parts list was
CGA-320 Nut & 2.5" Nipple - Chrome Plated
Airgas Y12-215D580 Nickel Plated Brass Dual Stage Regulator
SS-4-HLN-2.00
SS-4-RSE-2
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I don't think for our application, there's an advantage/disadvantage. For my setup, I used mostly 1/4" fitting and then I reduced to the 1/8" for my solenoid.

Here's what my final parts list was
CGA-320 Nut & 2.5" Nipple - Chrome Plated
Airgas Y12-215D580 Nickel Plated Brass Dual Stage Regulator
SS-4-HLN-2.00
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Solenoid (Burkett 200a)
SS-2-SE
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SS-SS2-A (metering valve)
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Thanks for all your help Mike


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Unread 05/10/2018, 09:04 AM   #1321
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Thanks for all your help Mike
No Problem. I enjoyed building my reg. It was a fun little project.
Also, the only reason why I went with a 2.5" CGA adapter was because of my larger gauges. a 2" would be sufficient.
Same with the SS-4-HLN-2.00, I have a funky valve on the bottom of my regulator and I needed the 2 inches to get around it. I think the SS-4-HLN-1.50 would be plenty of room. Maybe even the SS-4-HLN-1.00


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Unread 05/30/2018, 08:50 AM   #1322
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Wow, the pics are fixed


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Unread 05/30/2018, 02:13 PM   #1323
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Wow, the pics are fixed
wow, that's pretty awesome that someone fixed this thread. I never get sick of looking at custom regs.


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Unread 05/30/2018, 02:15 PM   #1324
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wow, that's pretty awesome that someone fixed this thread. I never get sick of looking at custom regs.
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My turn! I snagged a NIB Air Products e12-215D and a Swagelok SS-SM2-S2-A for about $110 on eStray this afternoon. After pulling the trigger, I can’t find much information on the regulator, so hope that its a decent buy. Its dual stage, and the pressure ranges seem to be right (even though it could probably use a gauge upgrade).






All told, with a Burkert 6011 SS and other bits, I’ve still spent less than the AP setup. Here’s hoping I bought a decent regulator and the right stuff!


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