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11/30/2016, 02:37 PM | #101 |
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Just got what you meant with the water level difference ozia. You mean i need to have the water level in the filter bed and the stand pipe 3 " from the rim of the filter or it will overflow. I am setting the baffles so the middle chamber will overflow into the 3rd chamber before overflowing over the rim of filter. Are you using the same flush pump as dymico uses? Is that typical with their systems as well?
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11/30/2016, 09:03 PM | #103 |
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Good idea, always have a safety bypass. I am not using the same pump or configuration at all. I retrofit an existing sump so I had limits on what I could do. I ended up splitting the sand bed as I could not reach the total depth in a sump that only ran at 12 inches.
Attached is my configuration. The flow through the sand bed diminished from where it was when I first set it up. I am not sure if this was due to the sand settling or build-up of the bacteria population. Possibly, some of both conditions. I can see a haze in that chamber that i believe is a bacteria film. Aaron |
11/30/2016, 09:21 PM | #104 |
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Realizing now thats not the way i drew the baffles but that is my intent
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11/30/2016, 09:22 PM | #105 |
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Aaron how long have you had yours running? Have you noticed any of the benefits claimed by the dymico filter?
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The pump that DyMiCo uses are Tunze models. The smaller model 700 uses a 1073.02 for the process pump and a 1073.04 as the return pump. The larger model 2000 uses a 1073.04 for both pumps. I am using Sicce Silent 3's for both pumps as my filter is modeled after the 2000. Dennis
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A little over two weeks so I really haven't noticed anything yet. I've mainly been trying to tweet the operation to achieve some of the parameters called out in the manual. Like having the unit cycle between 0 and -200 mV.
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One more comment / update about the flow through the sand beds. I am pretty sure the bacteria has formed a thick layer in my second chamber (course sand). I was noticing the flow through the fine sand is much better now than the second chamber. The second chamber is the one that gets the carbon dose circulated through it.
I used Florida Crushed Coral as my course media and I believe I should have chosen something even larger. The flow was great when I was first starting up the system. I was running the flush pump all the time, without issue. If I tried that today, water would quickly back up in the return chamber. I am not sure what media you are selecting for your course bed but I would error on the larger size rather than smaller. Aaron |
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I ordered the Reef Angel unit that I plan to use to control my filter on the weekend. They were having a Black Friday sale and the base unit was 20% off. I also ordered the 130 lbs of sand and 132 lbs of Reborn media for the filter. I expect to have extra Reborn media. Hopefully I will drive over to Niagara Falls this weekend and pick it all up. With the dry rock for the tank, it should be about 800 lbs of stuff. That just leaves the home renovations that need to be completed so I can get after the tank builder to finish building my tank and and arrange delivery. Dennis
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11/30/2016, 10:11 PM | #110 |
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800 lbs? That is a car load! Are you using live sand?
I have never used the Reef Angel but it sounds like it is more open than Apex. You can do a lot of things with Apex but there are some serious limits, as I mentioned. Also the programing statements don't make a lot of sense some times. They do have an almost unlimited capability to add modules. Also, they did just release a new line of flow meters, which might be useful in this application. Good luck with your build. Do you still think you will be up and running in Dec? Aaron |
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Yeah, I ordered Live sand and then realized after that I could get dry sand much cheaper locally. It was late on Friday night, so I figured I could just call the BRS customer service first thing Monday and have it taken off my order. Then I received an email on Saturday saying my order was complete and it was already shipped. Oh well.
Looking less likely that I will have the filter up and running in December. If I can just have the tank installed in December, that will be an accomplishment. Dennis
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I used live too. My thinking was that it might help get the filter up and running quicker.
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Check it out. I am going to set this one up on my other tank. I'm calling it the DingoDown version.
28 X 17 X 6 (internal dimensions) It will be a gravity return unit. I have about 8" behind this tank and it has a black panel so it won't be visible. There is no third compartment, just the return box. It's made of poly carbonate. I coopted the stand-pipe idea from Dan. I'm using pvc compression drain fittings so I can remove or move the final piece of pipe to adjust the water level. I will probably order some media tomorrow and see if I can get this one going soon. Aaron |
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That is really neat Aaron. Did you fabricate that yourself? Really well done. Is the bottom perforated panel removable? You will have some separator between the sandbed layer and the bottom coarse section below the mixing pipe?
Looking forward to seeing how it performs. Dennis
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Dan, It's a probe holder. You just need to find a way to thread it in. There are 1/2 inch threaded bulkhead fittings that would work. Make sure you get threaded bulkhead fittings.
Here is the link on eBay for the holder: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111447881626...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Be aware, you have to drill out the middle some, the probe won't go all the way through without doing that but they are cheaper than others you will find. Dennis, Yes. I have a local supply house that sells me their scrap. That is why I was limited on the size. I have to make do with what I can get. They had 4 of these 28.5 X 17.5 pieces of polycarbonate. I paid $20 for the lot and turned it into this. Bottom perforated panels (2) are removable. They sit on a 3/8 edge that also adds some support to the corners. I have been using that drain sock to separate the media layers. I will probably do the same here. I could cut some more pieces and drill them but that is just taking up more area where I don't have a lot to spare. Aaron |
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By the way, I don't know why the image is upside down. It is right side up in my photo album. Not sure how that happened, Sorry.
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12/01/2016, 10:21 PM | #118 |
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I already have my circulating pump line run outside the filter for access to the valve. I can just add another valve with a tee between the two for the probe holder. Ill never have to reach inside the filter except to replace substrate or clean pump. Cool
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12/01/2016, 10:29 PM | #119 |
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Oh, that's right. I forgot you were plumbing the pump outside. What's the valve for?
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Sorry. I was thinking check valve. I remember that they limit the flow of the pump with a valve. I have just been using full flow.
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I included it in my design or the same reason, but I chose pumps that matched the flow of the Tunze ones they use. After seeing how cramped the process chamber will be for plumbing, I may just eliminate both of them on the process side as well. Ditto for the flush side. If I incorporate a stand pipe like Dan, then I can use level sensors and no longer need to set the flow of the pump. I may still include the flow meter on the return line though just for informational purposes. I probably should calculate what the volume of water returned would be at the suggested flow rate in the manual just to make sure that my plan to use the volume of the flush chamber is going to line up with the amount I believe a timed cycle would have pumped. Dennis
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I am sure their program relies on some constants, one probably being flow through the system. Since they would not be able to adjust or customize the programming for each application, this was the probably solution. Since ours is all custom, I don't know if the valves are necessary.
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Already ordered 2 from avast marine $4 each
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